YaST on ncurses Yes, YaST on GUI Not

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Hello,

I am a Newcomer on OpenSUSE and Linux. This is my first Thread!

I am the only user of this computer, and some days ago, on shell I changed user and root passwords.

I don’t have any problem since, but YaST2 runs only by commands on shell (as ncurses). In GUI (KDE 4.7) the YaST/root password is apparently accepted but later nothing appears on the screen.

What to do?
Thanks.

Pablo Vegezzi

Desktop: OpenSUSE 12.1 ; x86_32 ; KDE 4.7.2
on Dell Dimension E520 ; Intel Core2 1.86GHz ; 6 RAM

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Run the exact same command the yast entry in the menu uses as normal
user from a terminal and post the output it produces, maybe there is a
message it logs to the terminal which helps to identify the problem.


/usr/bin/xdg-su -c /sbin/yast2

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ThinkPad E320: oS 12.1 x86_64 | i3@2.30GHz | 8GB | KDE 4.8.5 | HD 3000
eCAFE 800: oS 12.1 i586 | AMD Geode LX 800@500MHz | 512MB | KDE 3.5.10

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Hello,
The answer I get is:

linux-gk:/ # /usr/bin/xdg-su -c /sbin/yast2
kdesu(14865)/kdeui (kdelibs): Session bus not found 
To circumvent this problem try the following command (with Linux and bash) 
export $(dbus-launch) 
KCrash: Application 'kdesu' crashing...
KCrash: Attempting to start /usr/lib/kde4/libexec/drkonqi from kdeinit
sock_file=/root/.kde4/socket-linux-gkkg/kdeinit4__0
Warning: connect() failed: : Connexion refusée
KCrash: Attempting to start /usr/lib/kde4/libexec/drkonqi directly
drkonqi(14866)/kdeui (kdelibs): Session bus not found 
To circumvent this problem try the following command (with Linux and bash) 
export $(dbus-launch) 
linux-gk:/ #

" … following command (with Linux and bash) …" means to write a batch file?

Thank you,

Pablo Vegezzi

Desktop: OpenSUSE 12.1 ; x86_32 ; KDE 4.7.2
on Dell Dimension E520 ; Intel Core2 1.86GHz ; 6 RAM

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Am 23.08.2012 18:26, schrieb palp56:
> linux-gk:/ #
Did you run that as root? I explicitly said as normal user.
If you do not run that command as normal user the output is useless.

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ThinkPad E320: oS 12.1 x86_64 | i3@2.30GHz | 8GB | KDE 4.8.5 | HD 3000
eCAFE 800: oS 12.1 i586 | AMD Geode LX 800@500MHz | 512MB | KDE 3.5.10

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Hello,

martin_helm said:
> Am 23.08.2012 18:26, schrieb palp56:
> > linux-gk:/ #
> Did you run that as root? I explicitly said as normal user.
> If you do not run that command as normal user the output is useless.

I agree. Runing as user the answer is:


p@linux-gk:/> /usr/bin/xdg-su -c /sbin/yast2
kdesu(16422)/kdesu (kdelibs) KDESu::KDEsuClient::command:  /home/abuild/rpmbuild/BUILD/kdelibs-4.7.2/kdesu/client.cpp : 209 ]  no reply from daemon. 
p@linux-gk:/>

Pablo Vegezzi

Desktop: OpenSUSE 12.1 ; x86_32 ; KDE 4.7.2
on Dell Dimension E520 ; Intel Core2 1.86GHz ; 6 RAM

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There was a long winded thread about that here
http://forums.opensuse.org/english/get-technical-help-here/applications/470492-yast-wont-open-up-when-opened-kickoff-menu.html

I cannot oversee quickly if that was solved.

What happens when you do


su -
yast2

?
The minus in “su -” is essential here.

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PC: oS 12.2 x86_64 | i7-2600@3.40GHz | 16GB | KDE 4.8.4 | GeForce GT 420
ThinkPad E320: oS 12.1 x86_64 | i3@2.30GHz | 8GB | KDE 4.8.5 | HD 3000
eCAFE 800: oS 12.1 i586 | AMD Geode LX 800@500MHz | 512MB | KDE 3.5.10

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I have just tryed and the GUI YaST2 runs. http://forums.opensuse.org/images/icons/icon7.png
On the Konsole :

  
p@linux-gk:~> su -
Password : 
linux-gk:~ # yast2
Run command: /sbin/yast2 online_update_configuration &
linux-gk:~ # exit
logout
p@linux-gk:~>

It’s a big steep!
I will go to read the 'YaST won’t open up … ’

Really thank you!

Pablo Vegezzi

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That confirms a bit that it may be just a problem with kdesu (which is
the helper program showing the graphical password dialog for root) and
not some deeper problem.
Good that su - works for you, so there is at least a workaround. For the
kdesu problem itself I do not know a solution, I hope there is something
in the mentioned thread which works for you.

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PC: oS 12.2 x86_64 | i7-2600@3.40GHz | 16GB | KDE 4.8.4 | GeForce GT 420
ThinkPad E320: oS 12.1 x86_64 | i3@2.30GHz | 8GB | KDE 4.8.5 | HD 3000
eCAFE 800: oS 12.1 i586 | AMD Geode LX 800@500MHz | 512MB | KDE 3.5.10

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When we are looking at kdesu as the culprit, can you try Kmenu > System > File manager > File manager in system manager mode (or same wording, I have a translation here). IMHO it uses the same mechanism to become superuser.

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I tried but as before, after the password nothing happens.

An option of your proposition, YaST Configuration System > YaST
gives the same result. And the button ‘run YaST’ automatically authorizes me as a simple ‘user’ to the restricted form of YaST.

martin_helm’s proposition works, and I would say that it’s OK.
Simply I am not really conscious of the system problem in which I am.
I will know.

I ask me what or how it happened.
Things will get normal wiht update of KDE or openSUSE?
I must start by the 16 pages of ‘yast-wont-open-up-when-opened-kickoff-menu’.

Thanks,
Pablo Vegezzi

Desktop: OpenSUSE 12.1 ; x86_32 ; KDE 4.7.2
on Dell Dimension E520 ; Intel Core2 1.86GHz ; 6 RAM

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Out of curiouity I googled the error message yesterday and found hints
that /usr/lib64/kde4/libexec/kdesud is the problem when it happens.
There was even a openSUSE bug report (sorry lost the link), which
mentions to remove this file as a workaround.
I cannot tell what effect it has to remove it since I do not know the
internals of kdesu and if it starts to eat your pets or something similar.

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PC: oS 12.2 x86_64 | i7-2600@3.40GHz | 16GB | KDE 4.8.4 | GeForce GT 420
ThinkPad E320: oS 12.1 x86_64 | i3@2.30GHz | 8GB | KDE 4.8.5 | HD 3000
eCAFE 800: oS 12.1 i586 | AMD Geode LX 800@500MHz | 512MB | KDE 3.5.10

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Anyway, thank you the information.

PV

Desktop: OpenSUSE 12.1 ; x86_32 ; KDE 4.7.2
on Dell Dimension E520 ; Intel Core2 1.86GHz ; 6 RAM

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I am a new user as well and trying to get familiar with Yast as well. Any suggestions? I also have played with Fedora some and like it but SUSE is just as favorible.

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Hello Pbruno327,

When you have a question of your own, please start a thread of your own. The title of this thread is not covering what you ask, this thread is allready a few days old without many people looking at it anymore. Not many people will find your question thus.

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On 08/29/2012 10:26 AM, hcvv wrote:
> I am a new user as well and trying to get familiar with Yast as well.
>>Any suggestions?

i’d start here:

http://doc.opensuse.org/documentation/html/openSUSE/opensuse-startup/cha.y2.sw.html

http://doc.opensuse.org/documentation/html/openSUSE/opensuse-startup/part.reference.administration.html

the table of contents, including the string “yast” many times, is here:
http://doc.opensuse.org/documentation/html/openSUSE/opensuse-startup/

(and, i’d also follow Henk’s hint, next time…)

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dd