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    Default How to connect to wirless network via WPS(wifi protected setup)?

    OS type: opensuse 12.1 x86 32bit
    DE: KDE 4.7.2

    I use the network management, but it required the password(WPA2 personal), which i don't have.(i was told the WPS button is design to avoid password)
    I have tried wpa_gui, but the WPS page is disabled.
    thanks.

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    Default Re: How to connect to wirless network via WPS(wifi protected setup)?

    On 07/31/2012 08:06 AM, HelloGCC wrote:
    >
    > OS type: opensuse 12.1 x86 32bit
    > DE: KDE 4.7.2
    >
    > I use the network management, but it required the password(WPA2
    > personal), which i don't have.(i was told the WPS button is design to
    > avoid password)
    > I have tried wpa_gui, but the WPS page is disabled.
    > thanks.


    The whole WPS button/method is designed and works for Winblows users. Many of
    them are incapable of entering a pass phrase into the networking section.

    If you have legitimate access to the wifi network, the admin should give you the
    pass phrase. You need it!



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    Default Re: How to connect to wirless network via WPS(wifi protected setup)?

    Quote Originally Posted by lwfinger View Post
    On 07/31/2012 08:06 AM, HelloGCC wrote:
    >
    > OS type: opensuse 12.1 x86 32bit
    > DE: KDE 4.7.2
    >
    > I use the network management, but it required the password(WPA2
    > personal), which i don't have.(i was told the WPS button is design to
    > avoid password)
    > I have tried wpa_gui, but the WPS page is disabled.
    > thanks.


    The whole WPS button/method is designed and works for Winblows users. Many of
    them are incapable of entering a pass phrase into the networking section.

    If you have legitimate access to the wifi network, the admin should give you the
    pass phrase. You need it!
    thank you for your reply.

    actually i don't totally understand you.

    if opensuse(linux) don't supports WPS, why wpa_gui provide the WPS option.
    The turth is that i can't get the pass phrase, i can only push the router's WPS button, how do i get the connection done.

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    Default Re: How to connect to wirless network via WPS(wifi protected setup)?

    On 07/31/2012 10:26 AM, HelloGCC wrote:
    >
    > lwfinger;2477470 Wrote:
    >> On 07/31/2012 08:06 AM, HelloGCC wrote:
    >>>
    >>> OS type: opensuse 12.1 x86 32bit
    >>> DE: KDE 4.7.2
    >>>
    >>> I use the network management, but it required the password(WPA2
    >>> personal), which i don't have.(i was told the WPS button is design to
    >>> avoid password)
    >>> I have tried wpa_gui, but the WPS page is disabled.
    >>> thanks.

    >>
    >> The whole WPS button/method is designed and works for Winblows users.
    >> Many of
    >> them are incapable of entering a pass phrase into the networking
    >> section.
    >>
    >> If you have legitimate access to the wifi network, the admin should
    >> give you the
    >> pass phrase. You need it!

    >
    > thank you for your reply.
    >
    > actually i don't totally understand you.
    >
    > if opensuse(linux) don't supports WPS, why wpa_gui provide the WPS
    > option.
    > The turth is that i can't get the pass phrase, i can only push the
    > router's WPS button, how do i get the connection done.


    I have no idea what wpa-gui does, but you said the option is not enabled.

    I didn't know that this is your router. As long as you control it, ignore the
    WPS button, and connect to the router with a wire. You can determine the
    router's address from the IP address that your wired connection is assigned. If
    your address is 192.168.x.y, then the router will be probably be at 192.168.x.1
    or less likely at 192.168.x.254. Now log into the admin page at its address. You
    will need to know the username and password. Once logged in, you will be able to
    determine the WPA2 pass phrase that it is using, or you can set it to whatever
    one you like. In addition, you should disable WPS as it is inherently insecure.
    Anyone with physical access to your router caqn change the WPA2 pass phrase at
    any time.

    If you have not changed the default password on the router, you need to do that
    now. Many people know the default password assigned by each of the vendors.



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    Default Re: How to connect to wirless network via WPS(wifi protected setup)?

    Quote Originally Posted by lwfinger View Post
    On 07/31/2012 10:26 AM, HelloGCC wrote:
    >
    > lwfinger;2477470 Wrote:
    >> On 07/31/2012 08:06 AM, HelloGCC wrote:
    >>>
    >>> OS type: opensuse 12.1 x86 32bit
    >>> DE: KDE 4.7.2
    >>>
    >>> I use the network management, but it required the password(WPA2
    >>> personal), which i don't have.(i was told the WPS button is design to
    >>> avoid password)
    >>> I have tried wpa_gui, but the WPS page is disabled.
    >>> thanks.

    >>
    >> The whole WPS button/method is designed and works for Winblows users.
    >> Many of
    >> them are incapable of entering a pass phrase into the networking
    >> section.
    >>
    >> If you have legitimate access to the wifi network, the admin should
    >> give you the
    >> pass phrase. You need it!

    >
    > thank you for your reply.
    >
    > actually i don't totally understand you.
    >
    > if opensuse(linux) don't supports WPS, why wpa_gui provide the WPS
    > option.
    > The turth is that i can't get the pass phrase, i can only push the
    > router's WPS button, how do i get the connection done.


    I have no idea what wpa-gui does, but you said the option is not enabled.

    I didn't know that this is your router. As long as you control it, ignore the
    WPS button, and connect to the router with a wire. You can determine the
    router's address from the IP address that your wired connection is assigned. If
    your address is 192.168.x.y, then the router will be probably be at 192.168.x.1
    or less likely at 192.168.x.254. Now log into the admin page at its address. You
    will need to know the username and password. Once logged in, you will be able to
    determine the WPA2 pass phrase that it is using, or you can set it to whatever
    one you like. In addition, you should disable WPS as it is inherently insecure.
    Anyone with physical access to your router caqn change the WPA2 pass phrase at
    any time.

    If you have not changed the default password on the router, you need to do that
    now. Many people know the default password assigned by each of the vendors.
    The "router" is not mine, it belongs to the landlord. You mentioned the wired way, which i'm using now to connect to the Internet, but when i try to access 192.168.1.1, i got a login page, which ask me to input the user name and password, this account was given from the ISP, i noticed that the "router" is from the ISP too. I don't even think it is a normal router. So i can't get the pass phrase, that means if i want connect to the network with wireless way, i should follow the WPS protocol. So we get to the problem that i described in the title.

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    dd@home.dk NNTP User

    Default Re: How to connect to wirless network via WPS(wifi protected setup)?

    On 08/01/2012 09:06 AM, HelloGCC wrote:
    > it belongs to the landlord.


    if the landlord wants to allow you to use his/her wi-fi s/he will have
    to do one of two things:

    - give you the pass phrase needed to use the wi-fi, or

    - run his/her wi-fi 'open' so no pass phrase is needed (in that case
    anyone and everyone can use it...even the guy parked in the parking lot
    uploading kiddie-porn, so the landlord is probably not wanting to do that!!)

    note: the password to access the router's admin functions is different
    from the pass phrase you need in order to connect to the router
    wirelessly and get to the net..

    if you have a wired connection and the landlord doesn't want you using
    his/her wi-fi then you buy your own wi-fi router and plug it into the
    wire you are now using for net access..

    and set up _your_ router/access point with a secure pass phrase which
    you can then put into your laptop, and keep the bad guys out.

    --
    dd

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    Default Re: How to connect to wirless network via WPS(wifi protected setup)?

    Quote Originally Posted by dd@home.dk View Post
    On 08/01/2012 09:06 AM, HelloGCC wrote:
    > it belongs to the landlord.


    if the landlord wants to allow you to use his/her wi-fi....
    i don't think the landlord don't want me to use the wifi.
    The WPS works fine in windows, my roommate is using Win7 and he can
    connect to the router successfully. Since i'm using openSuSE i don't know how to connect
    to the router. i'm here to ask the way that how to connect to the router which using
    WPS thing in Linux. I have googled "wifi protected setup linux", it seems that WPS
    supports Linux.

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    dd@home.dk NNTP User

    Default Re: How to connect to wirless network via WPS(wifi protected setup)?

    On 08/01/2012 10:26 AM, HelloGCC wrote:
    >
    > i don't think the landlord don't want me to use the wifi.
    > The WPS works fine in windows


    no, it does not "work fine" in Windows...it is very easily cracked and
    all who connect with it are in danger of all their internet business
    being intercepted (like passwords and bank account numbers, etc)..

    here: "WPS has been shown to easily fall to brute-force attacks. A major
    security flaw was revealed in December 2011 that affects wireless
    routers with the WPS feature, which most recent models have enabled by
    default. The flaw allows a remote attacker to recover the WPS PIN and,
    with it, the network's WPA/WPA2 pre-shared key in a few hours. Users
    have been urged to turn off the WPS feature, although this may not be
    possible on some router models." cite:
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wi-Fi_Protected_Setup

    as Larry told you yesterday "If you have legitimate access to the wifi
    network, the admin should give you the pass phrase."

    --
    dd

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    Default Re: How to connect to wirless network via WPS(wifi protected setup)?

    OK, forget all the security problem, i just want to know how to connect to the router,
    because wired connection is so inconvenient.

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    dd@home.dk NNTP User

    Default Re: How to connect to wirless network via WPS(wifi protected setup)?

    > i just want to know how to connect to the router,

    as far as i can tell your choices are:

    - use the pass phrase provided by the wifi router admin
    - have the wifi router use no security (run open)
    - wire your own wifi router to the providers network
    - use Windows.

    --
    dd

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