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    Default LibreOffice 3.5.1 for OpenSUSE 12.1?

    When will LibreOffice 3.5.1 be available? (System: OpenSUSE 12.1 + KDE 4.7.2) LibO is a stable and bugfixing version of LibO 3.5.0 and should be available for OpenSUSE 12.1 I think. It's also nowhere to find in the OBS.
    Besides that: after several months of experiencie with the OBS I think the OBS is rather rubbish, userunfriendly and above all very confusing for end users. Too many apps and their packages in the OBS just don't work properly and for an average end user it's confusing to pick the right version. I'm longing back to the good old Packman times.

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    Default Re: LibreOffice 3.5.1 for OpenSUSE 12.1?

    On 2012-03-19 18:36, wfranssen wrote:
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    > When will LibreOffice 3.5.1 be available? (System: OpenSUSE 12.1 + KDE
    > 4.7.2) LibO is a stable and bugfixing version of LibO 3.5.0 and should
    > be available for OpenSUSE 12.1 I think. It's also nowhere to find in the
    > OBS.


    There are two main OBS sites for LiBO - STABLE and UNSTABLE. If it is not
    there, then wait. If you wait and it is not, wait more.
    If you do not want to wait, offer your help to them.

    I can not check now because the site is down. Oh, it's back - this is the
    official information site:

    O.O.
    L.O

    > Besides that: after several months of experiencie with the OBS I think
    > the OBS is rather rubbish, userunfriendly and above all very confusing
    > for end users. Too many apps and their packages in the OBS just don't
    > work properly and for an average end user it's confusing to pick the
    > right version. I'm longing back to the good old Packman times.


    Mmmm... :-(

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    Default Re: LibreOffice 3.5.1 for OpenSUSE 12.1?

    This is your second post (at least) mentioning a lot of non-working software from OBS. Examples please? And, do you report bugs?
    - Athlon X6 3.6 GHz, 16 GB DDR3, 30 GB SSD, 3 TB of disks, GT540, openSUSE 12.2 x86_64 + KDE 4.10 + GNOME 3
    - ASUS A73SD, Intel + GT610M Optimus, 6 GB, 120 GB SSD, openSUSE Tumbleweed

    Anything that can go wrong.... will teach us

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    http://nl.opensuse.org/Gebruiker:Knurpht

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    Default Re: LibreOffice 3.5.1 for OpenSUSE 12.1?

    OK, I'll wait.

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    Default Re: LibreOffice 3.5.1 for OpenSUSE 12.1?

    If you do not want to wait, offer your help to them.

    OK, I'll wait.
    I'm not a contributor, I'm not a packager or a maintainer, I can not compile. And I don't have the intention to learn it. As an average end user I just use any software or operating system just to work with it.
    Cheers and have fun.

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    Default Re: LibreOffice 3.5.1 for OpenSUSE 12.1?

    On 2012-03-20 01:56, wfranssen wrote:
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    > OK, I'll wait.


    You can also try to find out who does the job and ask them, politely :-)

    From the little I have heard, 3.5 requires the previous version to be
    uninstalled completely first, and this may be blocking its packaging.

    You must understand that a lot of the work is being done by volunteers, not
    paid professionals. They will not be happy to hear their hard effort
    denigrated. There is always room for improvement, but they do what they can.

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    Default Re: LibreOffice 3.5.1 for OpenSUSE 12.1?

    Just one example you can read in my thread multimedia tuxguitar.
    It's just one example of an app that's not working, or not working out of the box. In earlier days when Packman was still fully alive and kicking their TuxGuitar package was perfect and worked flawlessly. Since the migration of most of the Packman packages this is no longer the case for - imho - too many applications/packages.
    Other one: WinFF 1.4.2 (all available versions) is missing working presets. It simply doesn't work. So I've installed version 1.4.0 from code.google.com. This one works fine. WinFF from Packman always worked without any problem.
    Should I send bugreports? To whom of the maintainers/packagers of which version? Come on.
    And so there is a remarkable list to make. In my experience as an average end user with a.o OBS there is something fundamentally wrong with this concept. End users like me have no idea which version to pick from many applications in the OBS. This concept might be useful for developpers, maintainers and packagers, but it is not for an average user. I have nothing against OpenSuse or its community or whatsoever, I just try to point out a symptom that I consider as not useful for users. I just expect common applications will work out of the box. If that can't be understood by the several different communities, well we should wonder why OpenSuse is trying to gain "market share" at all. IT'S ALL ABOUT THE END USERS.
    Cheers, and have fun

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    Default Re: LibreOffice 3.5.1 for OpenSUSE 12.1?

    On 2012-03-20 02:36, wfranssen wrote:
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    > Just one example you can read in my thread multimedia tuxguitar.


    From which repo did you download it? Because there are two possibilities at
    least.

    > In earlier days when Packman was still fully alive and


    Notice that if there is a reason for a package to be in packman, as typical
    for multimedia, there is a chance that it will never work right if you use
    an openSUSE version. I suppose I don't need to explain why.

    > Other one: WinFF 1.4.2 (all available versions) is missing working
    > presets.


    Winff is not available in the buildservice. If you count the home repos,
    then it is, but you are not supposed to install from them - unless the
    owner tells you it is ok.

    > Should I send bugreports? To whom of the maintainers/packagers of which
    > version? Come on.


    To the one that packages it. There is a published procedure.

    However, if you are installing from home repos, forget it. You can not even
    complain here, it is your fault for installing a non published package. You
    can tell the packager, that's all - provided he told you it was ok to
    install from his playground.

    And, being winff what it is, it will never work right if you download it
    from openSUSE. I suppose I don't need to explain why. You'd better ask in
    the multimedia forum for a replacement that you can get from packman.


    There is of course room for improvement in the buildservice. I agree the
    thing is not well organized, there have been discussions about this in the
    project. But as I said before, this is a volunteer effort. You are welcome
    to help :-)

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    Default Re: LibreOffice 3.5.1 for OpenSUSE 12.1?

    wfranssen wrote:

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    > OK, I'll wait.
    >
    >

    I agree with all the comments. But you do have another alternative.
    Download and install the version from the LibreOffice Website. I've been
    running 3.5.1 for sometime from there. No real problems sofar. I mainly
    use Calc and writer.

    http://www.libreoffice.org/download/

    The only thing you have to remember it is installed into /opt instead
    the the openSUSE path. This could be changed. Not being a programmer, I
    just installed into /opt. Will reinstall when openSUSE version runs. The
    downloaded one has some different Icons also, but again its a problem.

    Hope this helps you.

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    Default Re: LibreOffice 3.5.1 for OpenSUSE 12.1?

    Incidentally, when you installed LO from their site do you get any icons in KDE?
    When I tried it, I uninstalled LO first and then installed 3.5.1 and did the desktop
    integration bit. LO works perfectly I just don't have any icons in the kde 'start' menu

    Ta

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