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    Default Another beef about forum login

    OK, so I actually tried to login to the web forums.

    I'm at <https://forums.opensuse.org/ICSLogin/auth-up> and Firefox
    apparently knows my username and password, which is quite likely because
    I have logged in successfully before. So I click on 'login' and:

    - nothing much happens for a while, and then
    - the screen doesn't change at all

    The difference between those two statements is that in between my
    browser made five successful GET requests, for auth-up, wiki.css,
    superstats.js, s24324995755662, and s24324995755662 (with various
    parameters)

    So, and pardon my shouting, WHY DID NOTHING CHANGE ON SCREEN?

    What kind of idiot designs a user interface that provides no feedback?

    It appears I'm not logged in. OK, *WHY* am I not logged in? What went
    wrong? Is it too much to give me a hint as to what I need to do to fix
    whatever the problem is?

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    Default Re: Another beef about forum login

    It all works just fine and BTW
    We don't like to refer to people as Idiots, so I'll restrain myself in your case too.

    The Forum Interface is put together by Kim

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    Default Re: Another beef about forum login

    caf4926 wrote:
    > It all works just fine and BTW
    > We don't like to refer to people as Idiots, so I'll restrain myself in
    > your case too.
    >
    > The Forum Interface is put together by Kim
    >
    > The login is here: 'openSUSE: Login
    > ' (http://forums.opensuse.org/login/ics...?destination=/)


    Think about it. If it all worked just fine I wouldn't have written my
    post, would I?

    Please read my post again, assume that I did actually write what
    happened, and perhaps help me and others by trying to explain it?

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    Default Re: Another beef about forum login

    You quoted this
    https://forums.opensuse.org/ICSLogin/auth-up
    It's not correct.

    Did you try the link I posted?
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    caf4926 wrote:
    > You quoted this
    > https://forums.opensuse.org/ICSLogin/auth-up
    > It's not correct.
    >
    > Did you try the link I posted?


    I quoted that because I cut it out of my browser. That's where the login
    process took me. If it's not correct then the login process is broken,
    which is what I said.

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    Default Re: Another beef about forum login

    On 08/02/2011 11:50 AM, Dave Howorth wrote:
    > I'm at <https://forums.opensuse.org/ICSLogin/auth-up>


    i don't know how you got to there?? here is what happens here (using
    11.4/kde4.6/ff5.0):

    -go to http://forums.opensuse.org

    -click "Login" (upper right, below "Advanced Search" blank
    -page cycles to
    <https://forums.opensuse.org/ICSLogin/?%22http://forums.opensuse.org/login/icslogin.php?destination=/%22>

    -and (in my case, since i use KWallet) the Username and Password fields
    are filled in..

    -click on "Login"

    -page cycles to http://forums.opensuse.org/ and says "Welcome DenverD"

    i wonder, do you have javascript enabled? or maybe some 'strange' ff
    add-ons (mine listed in sig)

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    Default Re: Another beef about forum login

    DenverD wrote:
    > On 08/02/2011 11:50 AM, Dave Howorth wrote:
    >> I'm at <https://forums.opensuse.org/ICSLogin/auth-up>

    >
    > i don't know how you got to there?? here is what happens here (using
    > 11.4/kde4.6/ff5.0):
    >
    > -go to http://forums.opensuse.org


    Yes

    > -click "Login" (upper right, below "Advanced Search" blank
    > -page cycles to
    > <https://forums.opensuse.org/ICSLogin/?%22http://forums.opensuse.org/login/icslogin.php?destination=/%22>


    Yes

    > -and (in my case, since i use KWallet) the Username and Password fields
    > are filled in..


    I'm not using kwallet but firefox fills in the username & password

    > -click on "Login"


    Yes

    > -page cycles to http://forums.opensuse.org/ and says "Welcome DenverD"


    No, page cycles to https://forums.opensuse.org/ICSLogin/auth-up and the
    screen stays exactly as before

    > i wonder, do you have javascript enabled? or maybe some 'strange' ff
    > add-ons (mine listed in sig)


    It doesn't appear to matter whether js is enabled or not; I get the same
    result. I don't have 'strange' add-ons. Perhaps I'll try disabling the
    ones I do have.

    Your sig just says:

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    On 08/02/2011 03:46 PM, Dave Howorth wrote:

    > No, page cycles to https://forums.opensuse.org/ICSLogin/auth-up and the
    > screen stays exactly as before


    very strange....ah, maybe it is your ff cookies..._try_ dumping all
    opensuse.org & novell.com cookies

    ff Menu > Edit > Preferences > Privacy > Remove individual cookies

    > Your sig just says:
    > DD -Software-


    yep, the link takes you to a comprehensive list of software installed..

    btw, i have seen a lot of irritating stuff out of the web forum
    software, but never what you reported...so ??? (well! don't take that to
    mean i believe you didn't see what you did see!)

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    Default Re: Another beef about forum login

    DenverD wrote:
    > very strange....ah, maybe it is your ff cookies..._try_ dumping all
    > opensuse.org & novell.com cookies


    I'll try it tonight.

    BTW, I wonder what opensuse is doing about the requirement not to serve
    me (or any other UK citizen) with any cookies without asking my explicit
    permission first

    (I wish our government would pass laws about spam and javascript instead
    of silly ones about cookies)

    > yep, the link takes you to a comprehensive list of software installed..


    ah, right.

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    Default Re: Another beef about forum login

    On 08/02/2011 04:15 PM, Dave Howorth wrote:

    > BTW, I wonder what opensuse is doing about the requirement not to serve
    > me (or any other UK citizen) with any cookies without asking my explicit
    > permission first


    you make me laugh--because i thought it was only the USA's law makers
    who think they can 'control' the internet by passing local laws..

    hmmm, so the law is the forums must _ask_ permission to serve you milk
    and cookies?

    is it not enough to inform you, and let you decided if the Terms &
    Conditions are ok with you or not?

    now, i know that just like me you read every word, including the part

    By having an openSUSE Account (also known as a Novell ID), you agree to
    the following Terms and Conditions: ... openSUSE Forums uses cookies to
    store information on your local computer. These cookies do not contain
    any tracking information or personal data, and only serve to enhance
    your use of the forums.

    > (I wish our government would pass laws about spam and javascript instead
    > of silly ones about cookies)


    yep, me too...but, most governments are mostly cyber-clueless and just
    now grappling with the net problems which sprang up 15 or more years ago..

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