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    New posts are OK. But in the other ones, the special characters got replaced with question marks now in the french forum (were OK before).

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    On Mon, 09 May 2011 22:36:01 +0000, please try again wrote:

    > New posts are OK. But in the other ones, the special characters got
    > replaced with question marks now in the french forum (were OK before).
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    Yes, that is as expected. We didn't convert the existing database to
    UTF-8, just configured things so new posts would be UTF-8.

    Converting the database would take many hours, longer to back it up and
    restore it if something went wrong.

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    If you need to read old messges, you can temporarily change your encoding language from the box in the lower right of any forum page.
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    Thank you. I got it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kgroneman View Post
    If you need to read old messges, you can temporarily change your encoding language from the box in the lower right of any forum page.
    Oh, thanks for the info. I didn't notice that little list.

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    This is weird. This post (probl�me drivers nvidia) was posted today. But I had to switch to old endcoding to be able to quote it in my answer (otherwise the page would not load). Now I switched back to UTF8 (see the thread's name). In old encoding, it would have printed only probl.

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    IMHO, you should convert the entire database to UTF-8. We keep switching between UTF-8 and old encoding most of the time within the same thread, because the encoding used for the display is the one used originally by the poster. There is no way to convince everyone to post in UTF-8 and anyway the database should handle different encoding inputs, not the poster. As a immediate (hopefully temporarily) workaround, you could allow posters to change the encoding for reading only, so that they would not write new posts using old encoding.

    By the way, I don't see the option 'English (old encoding). So if I order to read old encoded messages in french, I have to switch to French (old encoding), which displays the posts correctly but also translates the user interface in french. However, being able to read/write posts in french doesn't mean that you want everything else to appear in french nor that you can easily and efficiently use it.

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    Default Re: Re : Re: Re : Re: UTF-8

    Quote Originally Posted by please_try_again View Post
    IMHO, you should convert the entire database to UTF-8.
    That would be nice. But it would require a lot of effort.

    After a while, you will mainly be looking at posts that are new enough to be in UTF-8. So it just requires a little patience.
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    Quote Originally Posted by nrickert View Post
    That would be nice. But it would require a lot of effort.
    It would not have required 'lot' of effort if they had done that before switching the site over. Now that they are both types of characters in the database, I'm afraid it's too late.

    Quote Originally Posted by nrickert View Post
    After a while, you will mainly be looking at posts that are new enough to be in UTF-8. So it just requires a little patience.
    I'm not talking about old posts.

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    On Wed, 25 May 2011 20:06:02 +0000, please try again wrote:

    > It would not have required 'lot' of effort if they had done that before
    > switching the site over. Now that they are both types of characters in
    > the database, I'm afraid it's too late.


    It would have required the site be offline for longer, and the return was
    determined not to be sufficient to warrant the downtime, given the
    workaround that works for getting at the older posts and that things
    eventually will get to a point where switching won't be necessary.

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