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    Question Why are there no subforums for KDE & Gnome?

    I am always wondering where to ask questions like "How to update to the latest KDE minor release?" or "How to do x in KDE?" or "How to work-around a bug in the KDE Activities management?".

    I usually end up posting them in "Applications", although I don't think of KDE itself as an application, but at least the forum subtitle includes "Questions about Desktops". However, that subforum appears pretty busy and the topics range widely.

    I think it makes sense to have a single forum for applications, since KDE users may use some Gnome Software, while Gnome users may use some KDE Software. However, questions about the desktop itself seem misplaced there, as I don't care much about problems specific to Gnome.

    So how about a "KDE"-, "Gnome-" and maybe an "Other Desktops-" subforum?

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    Default Re: Why are there no subforums for KDE & Gnome?

    So how about a "KDE"-, "Gnome-" and maybe an "Other Desktops-" subforum?
    Hmmm... interesting idea. I can see the merit in this. I'd like to know what others' opinions are here....

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    Default Απ: Why are there no subforums for KDE & Gnome?

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    Default Re: Why are there no subforums for KDE & Gnome?

    On 04/07/2011 11:36 AM, deano ferrari wrote:
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    >> So how about a "KDE"-, "Gnome-" and maybe an "Other Desktops-" subforum?
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    > Hmmm... interesting idea. I can see the merit in this. I'd like to know
    > what others' opinions are here....


    i don't care one way or the other, but wonder if we have a KDE and Gnome
    and "Other" forum, will we move any (like XFCE, LXDE, ROX, toil, EDE,
    Enlightenment or Unity) out of 'other' if they get more followers ??

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    Default Re: Απ: Why are there no subforums for KDE & Gnome?

    Do not forget that for typical KDE questions, there is a KDE forum (Index page • KDE Community Forums) where you might be served better then here for questions not related to openSUSE (which is oft the case). I guess for Gnome there is a similar posibility.
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    Question Re: Απ: Why are there no subforums for KDE & Gnome?

    I think that STurtles suggestion makes sense (compare in the German language area 'Desktop' with three subfora).

    But on the other hand there are already many fora, sub-fora and sub-sub-fora in the English language area. This may already lead to more confusion than putting threads with a similar theme/topic together.
    Example given: Someone has a laptop with openSUSE 11.4 and KDE installed with a not working wlan. He may post on the hardware forum (maybe because he suspects a 'hard blocked'-issue), on the laptop forum (maybe because he suspects this related to his laptop's vendor or just because he uses a laptop...) or in the wireless forum (because he could not use his wireless device).
    Creating a new KDE forum may give him the additional 'chance' to post in the KDE forum (maybe because he suspects this issue being related to the KDE program knetworkmanager) ...

    So I would guess that using general tags like kde, wireless, notebook
    (and maybe in addition more specific tags like acer, hard blocked or 14e4:432b)
    seems to me a better choice than creating three additional fora in the English language area of forums.openSUSE.org .

    Just my personal thoughts.

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    Default Re: Why are there no subforums for KDE & Gnome?

    On 04/07/2011 01:06 PM, pistazienfresser wrote:
    > Example given: Someone has a laptop with openSUSE 11.4 and KDE
    > installed with a not working wlan. He may post on the -hardware- forum
    > (maybe because he suspects a '-hard blocked-'-issue), on the -laptop-
    > forum (maybe because he suspects this related to his laptop's vendor or
    > just because he uses a laptop...) or in the -wireless- forum (because he
    > could not use his wireless device).


    or if it is an application, desktop, network, wireless or multimedia
    problem it might be posted to the 64 bit forum, if there is a glimmer of
    a suspicion it might be related to either 64 hardware or 64 software or
    .. . .

    etc..

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    Default Re: Why are there no subforums for KDE & Gnome?

    As I recall earlier discussions about it, there was some question about
    how to deal with "I'm a GNOME user using K3B" or "I'm a KDE user using F-
    Spot" and where those users would logically look to ask their questions.

    That said, as stamostolias said, some of the non-English forums have
    decided to offer KDE and GNOME forums.

    But you raise a good point about questions about DE usage being misplaced
    in the applications forum.

    Let me raise the idea with the rest of the team and see what they think.

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    Default Re: Why are there no subforums for KDE & Gnome?

    You guys have raised some good arguments already - now I think I'm just going to sit on the fence and watch...

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    Default Re: Why are there no subforums for KDE & Gnome?

    Quote Originally Posted by hcvv View Post
    Do not forget that for typical KDE questions, there is a KDE forum (Index page • KDE Community Forums) where you might be served better then here for questions not related to openSUSE (which is oft the case). I guess for Gnome there is a similar posibility.
    You are right, this might be often the case, but my first example question in the opening post is clearly not of this type. I think such question might be important to many openSuse/KDE users. So assuming further that no KDE/Gnome subforums will be created (just for the sake of the argument, I am happy that the creation is really considerd by the forum admins, thanks!) where should such a question be placed then? In "pre-release/beta"?

    Also, directing people to anther forum might make it more difficult to communicate. Similar to the bugtracking: if I encounter a bug in KDE, am I supposed to I report it in Novell's bugtracker or should I head directly to the KDE bugtracker? I always wonder about this, since from my user perspective, I am unsure which part of the software product I am using is KDE and which is openSuse.

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