New to all this so give me some flack.
is it possible to upgrade simply upgrade from 11.3 to 11.4 or do i have to do a clean install?
what are the procedures on linux??
If you use either the install DVD or the net install CD, there should be an upgrade option. I don’t think you can upgrade with the live CD, though you can do a clean install.
Personally, I always do a clean install to a new version, but I keep (and do not reformat) my “/home” partition which has most of my personalization.
Open the Yast (Start menu -> Software (Software) -> Software Sources (Software repositories)
The category of software repositories, select all sources of 11.2 (11.3,11.4 etc) and disable them. That happens if you select them all and click the Enabled (On) that are not enabled. Click OK when finished.
After open terminal and type the following
su
# zypper addrepo -f http://download.opensuse.org/update/11.3/ "openSUSE 11.3 Updates"
# zypper addrepo -f http://download.opensuse.org/factory/repo/oss/ "openSUSE Factory Oss"
# zypper addrepo –f http://download.opensuse.org/factory/repo/non-oss “openSUSE Non-oss”
Then upgrade
# zypper dup --from "openSUSE 11.3 Updates" --from "openSUSE Factory Oss" --from “openSUSE Non-oss”
or
su -c "zypper dup"
That’s all!!!
Warning You must find repositories of 11.4 first. This is the technique of upgrading.
On 03/05/2011 07:36 PM, lukemersh wrote:
>
> what are the procedures on linux??
don’t know about “on linux” as that is a huge subject (i have no idea
how Red Hat, Debian, etc etc etc do it), but for openSUSE these two
should cover it:
http://en.opensuse.org/SDB:System_upgrade
and
http://doc.opensuse.org/products/opensuse/openSUSE/opensuse-reference/cha.update.html
but, you can also find dozens and dozens of questions/answers in these
fora via google or the forums advanced search page…
however, some folks always backup the data and do a format/clean
install when moving from one version to the next…i’ve always done
that in the past, but there are others that use the above upgrade paths…
whichever you choose, it is always best to begin with a backup of all
your data, because a fat finger mistake (or power fail) can take it
all away…
–
DenverD
CAVEAT: http://is.gd/bpoMD
[NNTP posted w/openSUSE 11.3, KDE4.5.5, Thunderbird3.0.11, nVidia
173.14.28 3D, Athlon 64 3000+]
“It is far easier to read, understand and follow the instructions than
to undo the problems caused by not.” DD 23 Jan 11
On 2011-03-05 20:08, DenverD wrote:
> however, some folks always backup the data and do a format/clean
> install
I do the full backup, then upgrade. Actually, I recommend to do a full
backup before doing any of the possibilities, fresh install or upgrade, by
any method. Better waste work, than be sorry later.
–
Cheers / Saludos,
Carlos E. R.
(from 11.2 x86_64 “Emerald” at Telcontar)
Was almost screwed when i used zupper dup to move from 1.3 to 11.4 
[Help] After zypper dup with following repos](http://forums.opensuse.org/english/get-technical-help-here/install-boot-login/455220-help-after-zypper-dup-following-repos.html)
Thanks to the developers for a new 11.4 and also to sailors like others to prevent upgrade shipwreck:
The last comd does’nt work for me but before doing “zypper dup” I had to do a “zypper up rpm”.
This worked for me!!
And thanks.
I’ve just renamed 11.3 to 11.4 in the code of post #4 and made this:
sudo zypper ref
sudo zypper in rpm
sudo zypper in zypper
sudo zypper dist-upgrade
I’m currently updating my system, the result will be later. Wish me luck!rotfl!
Everything is OK!
But, my cuestion is - How to enable Gnome 3 instead of 2.32? I realy don’t know how…
Opps spoke too soon - now there is NO Panels and NO taskbars on rebooting. Tried typing gnone-panel or kicker & but nothing. Everything else seems to work on the desktop - right-cliking changes background, etc. Help!!
On 03/12/2011 01:36 AM, mktyap wrote:
>
> Opps spoke too soon - now there is NO Panels and NO taskbars on
> rebooting. Tried typing gnone-panel or kicker& but nothing. Everything
> else seems to work on the desktop - right-cliking changes background,
> etc. Help!!
this help request is buried far down in a thread titled “how to
upgrade suse 11.3 to 11.4”
since most experienced helpers read the thread titles so as to NOT
look in on threads that they know they can’t help with, you should
begin a NEW thread, with YOUR problem and give it a subject which will
bring in the help you need…
note, you do NOT have to say “help” in the subject, every thread here
needs help…
maybe something like
11.4 gnome: after boot no panel, kicker or taskbar
and, in your post give all info the helper might need–like:
-this was an upgrade from openSUSE 11.x and i made that by doing blah
blah, or this was a fresh install on a new hard disk, or blah blah
-it worked initially but after doing X, Y and Z it does not now…
-about your hardware
-about your linux experience
–
DenverD
CAVEAT: http://is.gd/bpoMD
[NNTP posted w/openSUSE 11.3, KDE4.5.5, Thunderbird3.1.8, nVidia
173.14.28 3D, Athlon 64 3000+]
“It is far easier to read, understand and follow the instructions than
to undo the problems caused by not.” DD 23 Jan 11
Never mind the request for help - waited for no response and so Im giving up zypper. So much for SUSE after 3 days upgrading.
(For those who want the solution- USE ONLY the KDE CD version for a liveCD re-install - for some reason the GNOME version will not detect my USB partition). Had to manually edit grub.cfg UUID before first boot to detect the partition and continue the rest of auto-config installation.
On 2011-03-14 07:06, mktyap wrote:
>
> Never mind the request for help - waited for no response and so Im
Please read the responses you got in this thread. You have to learn first
how to ask for questions.
–
Cheers / Saludos,
Carlos E. R.
(from 11.2 x86_64 “Emerald” at Telcontar)
On 03/14/2011 07:06 AM, mktyap wrote:
>
> Never mind the request for help - waited for no response and so Im
> giving up zypper. So much for SUSE after 3 days upgrading.
oh no!
you got response and ignored it…
smooth move!!
–
DenverD
CAVEAT: http://is.gd/bpoMD
[NNTP posted w/openSUSE 11.3, KDE4.5.5, Thunderbird3.1.8, nVidia
173.14.28 3D, Athlon 64 3000+]
“It is far easier to read, understand and follow the instructions than
to undo the problems caused by not.” DD 23 Jan 11
We, as a community, need new users/members. So some friendly advice like “Start a new thread, with a clear title” would have been supportive IMHO.
@mktyap: did you try to create a new user, and see what happens in that account?
On 2011-03-14 22:36, Knurpht wrote:
>
> We, as a community, need new users/members. So some friendly advice like
> “Start a new thread, with a clear title” would have been supportive
> IMHO.
Actually, DenverD told him exactly that, in longer text 
–
Cheers / Saludos,
Carlos E. R.
(from 11.2 x86_64 “Emerald” at Telcontar)
Here are the solutions tried (and failed before being able to read response - time difference)
- Created new user using cmdline in root-terminal (hang at login - no screen even unlike old user with screen icons)
- At root terminal redo zypper up and zypper verify (reboot - kernal panic something like “Locked - Software bug…”) - this took 3 days.
- Reformat partition, download and burn SusE Gnome 11.4 (failed to find formatted partition in ext usb disk)
- Download and burn SusE KDE 11.4 - installed (reboot hang at screen message like "setting up udev pts…)
Here is the final solution:
5) From 4) edit the /boot/grub/grub.cfg manually and insert the correct UUID from blkid /dev/usb -rebooted and complete installation auto-configuration. But hang at another reboot (same message about setting up udev points)
6) Make a grub boot floppy, edited menu.lst with correct UUID from blkid (reboot intermittent hanging at same udev message)
7) Boot into another linux distro (in this case kubuntu on same usb but different partition), do a e2fsck -f on broken SuSE partition, redo the bootloader using kubuntu -Success! (but intermittent hang on reboot again this works intermittent also on boot floppy)
8) Repeated step 7), booted successfully and do a software updating smolt. Now rebooting ok - still testing.
Sorry to moderator - please move this thread if necessary - I was responding to the titled solution. Also because of time difference did not get to read responses posted 1 day earlier. Unable to post everything since boot failure messages on black screen. But am glad I worked thru this myself.
On 2011-03-15 02:36, mktyap wrote:
>
> DenverD;2302457 Wrote:
>> On 03/12/2011 01:36 AM, mktyap wrote:
>>>
>>> Opps spoke too soon - now there is NO Panels and NO taskbars on
>>> rebooting. Tried typing gnone-panel or kicker& but nothing.
>> Everything
>>> else seems to work on the desktop - right-cliking changes background,
>>> etc. Help!!
>>
>> this help request is buried far down in a thread titled “how to
>> upgrade suse 11.3 to 11.4”
>>
>> since most experienced helpers read the thread titles so as to NOT
>> look in on threads that they know they can’t help with, you should
>> begin a NEW thread, with YOUR problem and give it a subject which will
>> bring in the help you need…
>>
>> note, you do NOT have to say “help” in the subject, every thread here
>> needs help…
>>
>> maybe something like
>> 11.4 gnome: after boot no panel, kicker or taskbar
>>
>> and, in your post give all info the helper might need–like:
>>
>> -this was an upgrade from openSUSE 11.x and i made that by doing blah
>> blah, or this was a fresh install on a new hard disk, or blah blah
>> -it worked initially but after doing X, Y and Z it does not now…
>> -about your hardware
>> -about your linux experience
>>
>> –
>> DenverD
>> CAVEAT: ‘C A V E A T’ (http://is.gd/bpoMD)
>> [NNTP posted w/openSUSE 11.3, KDE4.5.5, Thunderbird3.1.8, nVidia
>> 173.14.28 3D, Athlon 64 3000+]
>> “It is far easier to read, understand and follow the instructions than
>> to undo the problems caused by not.” DD 23 Jan 11
>
> Here are the solutions tried (and failed before being able to read
> response - time difference)
> 1) Created new user using cmdline in root-terminal (hang at login - no
> screen even unlike old user with screen icons)
> 2) At root terminal redo zypper up and zypper verify (reboot - kernal
> panic something like “Locked - Software bug…”) - this took 3 days.
> 3) Reformat partition, download and burn SusE Gnome 11.4 (failed to
> find formatted partition in ext usb disk)
> 4) Download and burn SusE KDE 11.4 - installed (reboot hang at screen
> message like "setting up udev pts…)
>
> Here is the final solution:
> 5) From 4) edit the /boot/grub/grub.cfg manually and insert the correct
> UUID from blkid /dev/usb -rebooted and complete installation
> auto-configuration. But hang at another reboot (same message about
> setting up udev points)
> 6) Make a grub boot floppy, edited menu.lst with correct UUID from
> blkid (reboot intermittent hanging at same udev message)
> 7) Boot into another linux distro (in this case kubuntu on same usb but
> different partition), do a e2fsck -f on broken SuSE partition, redo the
> bootloader using kubuntu -Success! (but intermittent hang on reboot
> again this works intermittent also on boot floppy)
> 8) Repeated step 7), booted successfully and do a software updating
> smolt. Now rebooting ok - still testing.
>
> Sorry to moderator - please move this thread if necessary - I was
No, it can not be moved because the thread was initiated by somebody else
with a different question. It was suggested for you to start a new one with
an appropriate tittle.
–
Cheers / Saludos,
Carlos E. R.
(from 11.2 x86_64 “Emerald” at Telcontar)
On 03/14/2011 10:36 PM, Knurpht wrote:
>
> We, as a community, need new users/members. So some friendly advice like
> “Start a new thread, with a clear title” would have been supportive
> IMHO.
would this have been friendly and helpful enough?
this help request is buried far down in a thread titled “how to
upgrade suse 11.3 to 11.4”
since most experienced helpers read the thread titles so as to NOT
look in on threads that they know they can’t help with, you should
begin a NEW thread, with YOUR problem and give it a subject which will
bring in the help you need…
note, you do NOT have to say “help” in the subject, every thread here
needs help…
maybe something like
11.4 gnome: after boot no panel, kicker or taskbar
and, in your post give all info the helper might need–like:
-this was an upgrade from openSUSE 11.x and i made that by doing blah
blah, or this was a fresh install on a new hard disk, or blah blah
-it worked initially but after doing X, Y and Z it does not now…
-about your hardware
-about your linux experience
–
DenverD
CAVEAT: http://is.gd/bpoMD
[NNTP posted w/openSUSE 11.3, KDE4.5.5, Thunderbird3.1.8, nVidia
173.14.28 3D, Athlon 64 3000+]
“It is far easier to read, understand and follow the instructions than
to undo the problems caused by not.” DD 23 Jan 11
In my naive way I thought that all I had to do was to download the 11.4 DVD, boot it up on my (up-to-date) 11.3 desktop and click on the update option!! I am now older and wiser. KDE would not start and I was left in text mode with an invitation to log in. I’m sure there are people on this web site who could have fixed it in 5 minutes, but not having a brain the size of a planet, I wasted half a day before giving in and doing a clean install - which is what I should have done in the first place. All is now well.