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    Follow up on [Re: Computer freezing: Trying to find the source of the
    problems.] on the forum I assume as appropriate for this question.

    On 2010-12-16 14:37, malcolmlewis wrote:
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    Quote Originally Posted by Carlos E. R.
    On 2010-12-15 22:03, malcolmlewis wrote:
    >> Hi
    >> @ phanisvara and Carlos
    >>
    >> Did you both not see my message about replying to the spam message??

    >
    > Yes, but didn't you see my question?
    >
    > A note such as that without explanation looks as censorship. Please,
    > explain your decisions.
    >
    >
    > Hi
    > Go here and put in the IP Address of the user in question (From the
    > headers), http://www.stopforumspam.com/search


    Ok, I find it there. But that does not justify a user as spammer, it is
    just a list with no links to proofs.

    I'm not saying he isn't - but that link is no proof, unless somebody
    explains it a bit more.

    phanisvara did explain it properly, quoting a response from DenverD, but
    his post did not reach me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Carlos E. R.
    Follow up on [Re: Computer freezing: Trying to find the source of the
    problems.] on the forum I assume as appropriate for this question.

    On 2010-12-16 14:37, malcolmlewis wrote:
    >
    Quote Originally Posted by Carlos E. R.
    On 2010-12-15 22:03, malcolmlewis wrote:
    >> Hi
    >> @ phanisvara and Carlos
    >>
    >> Did you both not see my message about replying to the spam message??

    >
    > Yes, but didn't you see my question?
    >
    > A note such as that without explanation looks as censorship. Please,
    > explain your decisions.
    >
    >
    > Hi
    > Go here and put in the IP Address of the user in question (From the
    > headers), http://www.stopforumspam.com/search


    Ok, I find it there. But that does not justify a user as spammer, it is
    just a list with no links to proofs.

    I'm not saying he isn't - but that link is no proof, unless somebody
    explains it a bit more.

    phanisvara did explain it properly, quoting a response from DenverD, but
    his post did not reach me.
    Forum spammers seem to use all sorts of different methods these days,
    we have some too, a single post with a name to a windows based program
    which has no real use for a linux user, users google it so it goes up
    the hit list for them.

    Bottom line, it's commercial (See T&C's), it's windows software, does it
    really belong on our forum...

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    Carlos E. R. wrote:
    > phanisvara did explain it properly, quoting a response from DenverD, but
    > his post did not reach me.


    Carlos, you are correct there is no proof positive that the post in
    question was SPAM, but (as they say in TV court cases) the
    preponderance of the evidence leaves little room for a reasonable
    doubt that it was not spam:

    1. first time poster
    2. introduced a Windows *only* program as a fix to OP's Linux problem
    3. google search showed identically worded posts in hundreds of other
    computer fora spread over many many months
    4. posters IP already identified as that of a forum spammer

    what else would you need to believe it is/was SPAM?

    dd

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    OH! i forgot one other reason:

    5. _i_ said it was SPAM, which should be enough for anyone! ;-)

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    On 2010-12-16 16:27, DenverD wrote:
    > Carlos E. R. wrote:
    >> phanisvara did explain it properly, quoting a response from DenverD, but
    >> his post did not reach me.

    >
    > Carlos, you are correct there is no proof positive that the post in
    > question was SPAM, but (as they say in TV court cases) the
    > preponderance of the evidence leaves little room for a reasonable
    > doubt that it was not spam:


    But a web page (http://www.stopforumspam.com/search) that lists addresses
    and IPs used for spam should offer proof. They say they list them as a help
    to forum admins to, perhaps automatically, block them. I think they should
    give some information about why they are listed.

    Similar sites for mail spam do have that information and a method to refute
    the listing - when they are reliable.


    > 1. first time poster
    > 2. introduced a Windows *only* program as a fix to OP's Linux problem
    > 3. google search showed identically worded posts in hundreds of other
    > computer fora spread over many many months
    > 4. posters IP already identified as that of a forum spammer
    >
    > what else would you need to believe it is/was SPAM?


    All that is true, but it was said after I asked. You only said "spam!"
    without explanation. So I asked: to me, without more information, it simply
    seemed a "misguided offer for help".

    Apparently, you did explain it, but your explanation didn't reach me - no
    idea why.

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    On 2010-12-16 16:19, malcolmlewis wrote:

    > Bottom line, it's commercial (See T&C's), it's windows software, does it
    > really belong on our forum...


    No, it doesn't.
    But I would appreciate a brief note of explanation when a thread is closed.

    It is only that, that I was baffled.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Carlos E. R.
    On 2010-12-16 16:19, malcolmlewis wrote:

    > Bottom line, it's commercial (See T&C's), it's windows software, does
    > it really belong on our forum...


    No, it doesn't.
    But I would appreciate a brief note of explanation when a thread is
    closed.

    It is only that, that I was baffled.
    Hi
    The thread wasn't closed, it went off topic I was only asking any
    further replies in the thread relate to the OP's issue.

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    Carlos E. R. wrote:
    > But a web page (http://www.stopforumspam.com/search) that lists addresses
    > and IPs used for spam should offer proof. They say they list them as a help
    > to forum admins to, perhaps automatically, block them. I think they should
    > give some information about why they are listed.


    i guess you could tell them that..


    > Apparently, you did explain it, but your explanation didn't reach me - no
    > idea why.


    i also have no idea why...except maybe it was deleted before you tried
    to fetch it..


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