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    Default OpenSUSE compatible with NTFS?

    I plan to install OpenSUSE as my main operating system.

    However, before proceeding with the installation I want to clarify one problem I think I might face. My disc is partitioned into 2 parts- a) C: being my primary partition and b) D: containing all my important files. Both the partitions are NTFS.

    I am planning to format C: and install OpenSUSE on it. Will I be able to use the D: partition in OpenSUSE just as I use it in Windows or would I have to format D: too? I do not want to format D: drive. Would I have to make any special configurations before or after installing OpenSUSE to use D: drive?

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    Default Re: OpenSUSE compatible with NTFS?

    Yes you can read/write NTFS. But it is a good idea to backup any important data before playing with partitioning. Also Linux requires at min 2 partitions, swap and root. Suse by default (you must override if you want less) uses 3 swap root and home. /home is where your personal data and settings will be stored. So

    1) backup important stuff
    2) delete the partition which Windows calls C:
    3) install Linux with 2 or 3 partitions it will create the the partitions in the free space you provided

    But I really recommend
    1) backup important stuff
    2) delete both partitions which Windows calls C: and D:
    3) install Linux with 3 partitions it will create the the partitions in the free space you provided.
    4) restore the data to your new /home/username directory

    Why keep a crippled file system around.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ISharma View Post
    I plan to install OpenSUSE as my main operating system.

    However, before proceeding with the installation I want to clarify one problem I think I might face. My disc is partitioned into 2 parts- a) C: being my primary partition and b) D: containing all my important files. Both the partitions are NTFS.

    I am planning to format C: and install OpenSUSE on it. Will I be able to use the D: partition in OpenSUSE just as I use it in Windows or would I have to format D: too? I do not want to format D: drive. Would I have to make any special configurations before or after installing OpenSUSE to use D: drive?
    OpenSUSE Linux uses its own file system.

    The openSUSE installer program will try to "guess" where you wish to install, and it may propose to install on your c: or your d: . Hence you need to look at the proposal carefully, make notes as to what is being proposed (pay attention to how openSUSE proposes to do the / and /home and swap partitions) and then you likely will need to edit the configuration and make your own custom setup, choosing the size and mount settings for / and /home and swap.

    There is a chance it will propose to carve up your C: the way you want, BUT you need to watch it carefully as it may choose to carve up your D: instead. Needless to say a backup is imperative.

    Ensure you defrag your windows IMMEDIATELY before installing openSUSE.

    Reference compatibility with NTFS, yes, openSUSE can read and write to NTFS. As initially installed, it will only read NTFS, and then you will need to do an easy edit to the /etc/fstab configuration file so it can both read and write to NTFS.

    Note if the NTFS partition is dirty, openSUSE Linux will NOT write to it, and it may not even be able to read to it, so it is important to keep that "clean" . Running a chkdsk from MS Windows on it is a good way to keep it clean. Note you can not do this from Linux and hence if you plan to keep an NTFS partition then IMHO you should also keep MS-Windows in a boot partition.

    Note also if MS-Windows is hibernated, openSUSE will NOT write to the NTFS and it may not even be able to read it.

    There is some guidance here you should read before download , burning and installing openSUSE:

    Good luck, and please feel free to post if you have more questions.

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    Have a look at our wiki : NTFS - openSUSE

    openSUSE does have NTFS read/write support

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    Thanks!
    I had already read all the links posted. I just wanted a more direct answer pertaining to my problem. I now plan to format my hard disk completely and install OpenSUSE.
    Hope my association with Linux lasts a long time

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    Well, now the other question is- "What should be the ideal size for partitions?" Should I give some priority to some partition compared to other partitions?
    I have 2 hard disks- 320GB SATA and 80GB IDE. I use the 80 GB drive only for virtual machines ( and plan to do the same with OpenSUSE).

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    Quote Originally Posted by ISharma View Post
    Well, now the other question is- "What should be the ideal size for partitions?" Should I give some priority to some partition compared to other partitions?
    I have 2 hard disks- 320GB SATA and 80GB IDE. I use the 80 GB drive only for virtual machines ( and plan to do the same with OpenSUSE).
    Well that depends on what you want to put on that hard disk.

    Assuming you wish to not touch the 80GB IDE, and plan to use the 320GB SATA, I assume you will be keeping MS-Windows in a partition on that SATA. ... I assume that because if you do not have MS-Windows then it makes no sence to keep NTFS.

    Thus you need to decide how much hard drive space do you want for MS-Windows ?

    ... another idea, which is likely not relevant to you, but it is something those of us who are keen on Linux keep in mind, is the possibility of a sandbox partition(s). ie in addition to a nominal parition, you may wish to have a sandbox partition.

    Let me show you two possibilities:

    Idea-1 : Windows and one-Linux only on 360GB:
    • /sda1 = MS-Windows - 50GB
    • /sda2 = Linux / - 25 GB
    • /sda3 = Linux swap - 2GB
    • /sda4 = extended - remainder (it will be a bit less than 283 GB)
    • /sda5 = /home - all of extended (it will be a bit less than 283 GB)


    Idea-2 : Windows and one-regular Linux and one sandbox linux only on 360GB:
    • /sda1 = MS-Windows - 50GB
    • /sda2 = openSUSE Linux / - 25 GB
    • /sda3 = all Linux swap - 2GB
    • /sda4 = extended - remainder (it will be a bit less than 283 GB)
    • /sda5 = openSUSE /home - all of extended (it will be a bit less than 243 GB)
    • /sda6 = Sandbox Linux / - 15 GB (sandbox / partition for cutting edge tests)
    • /sda7 = Sandbox Linux /home -25 GB (sandbox /home partition for cutting edge tests)


    Of course one can get exotic with separate /boot and other partitions but I don't recommend that for a new user.

    Note MS-Windows will NOT be able to access the Linux partitions.

    If you plan to put openSUSE as a virtual session on the 80GB, I assume you know it will run slower in that virtual session. I myself would not put openSUSE on a virtual session so I have no recommendations to pass there.

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    I won't keep Windows on my hard disk now. Also, I'll format the 80GB IDE too and do a fresh install of everything.

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    Default Re: OpenSUSE compatible with NTFS?

    Quote Originally Posted by ISharma View Post
    I won't keep Windows on my hard disk now. Also, I'll format the 80GB IDE too and do a fresh install of everything.
    In that case I would not keep an NTFS formatted drive, as you will have no way to clean it when it becomes dirty (and it WILL become dirty).

    Still, if it were me and I had a licenced copy of winXP, I would keep it in a small partition (say 10GB or so) as one never knows when it might be useful to boot to a completely different operating system to see if a problem might be hardware related, as opposed to operating system related.

    Also, I recommend one keep the operating system they are familiar with as long as needed until they become familiar with a new operating system. I have lost count of the times a keen new user to Linux deleted MS-Windows, only to find the Linux learning curve too steep, and the Linux way of doing things to different from what they were used to, and they stormed back to Windows in a huff and emotional frustration with Linux. ... They had set up an ALL Linux or NO Linux approach, and it ended up being NO Linux as the learning curve was far too steep.

    There is a lot to be said for moderation in life, and that applies IMHO just as much to a changing of operating systems.

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