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    Hi -

    I have a stable 11.1 gnome-based laptop running gnome 2.26. I do have QT 4.5 installed, and KDE runtime 4.3. I really don't want to break my gnome installation.

    I would like to install KDE 4.3 just to experiment. Can I do that without breaking things horribly? Most notably, I want to continue to use GDM. So, I want to be able to log in like I currently do and have nothing be different; or log into KDE.

    I this possible? Thanks!

    - John

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    Default Re: installing KDE 4.3

    You need the factory repo's, so guide here:
    KDE4.3.* Upgrade - HowTo - openSUSE Forums

    No promises that all will be warm and fuzzy.

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    why don't you try it with a Live CD, that way it can't possibly muck
    up your Gnome...(unless you mount your drives and fool around)..

    download KDE4.3.1 on openSUSE 11.1 at
    http://home.kde.org/~binner/kde-four-live/

    at the very least i'd advise you to add a new users, and log into KDE4
    ONLY as that new user...at least, that way you won't have personal
    settings in your home for both gnome and kde (which i have found
    sometimes troublesome)

    or just make a full system backup prior to installing KDE4, and fall
    back to that after you uninstall it (if it mucks up your system)..

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    Quote Originally Posted by platinum View Post
    why don't you try it with a Live CD, that way it can't possibly muck
    up your Gnome...(unless you mount your drives and fool around)..

    download KDE4.3.1 on openSUSE 11.1 at
    "KDE Four Live" CD

    at the very least i'd advise you to add a new users, and log into KDE4
    ONLY as that new user...at least, that way you won't have personal
    settings in your home for both gnome and kde (which i have found
    sometimes troublesome)

    or just make a full system backup prior to installing KDE4, and fall
    back to that after you uninstall it (if it mucks up your system)..

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    it was not my intention to tell him to even TRY to install only KDE4.3
    from a live CD--but rather to RUN KDE4.3 by booting from a live cd and
    looking at 4.3 all he wishes, SAFELY..

    *THEN* if he liked it and still wanted to install, it should be clear
    to do that following the directions *already* given by caf4926..

    BUT, in addition to caf's directions, i also suggest he add a new user
    to prevent settings for kde4 and gnome existing in the same /home

    if that wasn't clear, then thanks for speaking up zmdmw52..

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    Hi -

    Thanks for the responses. Yes, I understood that the purpose of the live CD was to try the desktop, not install it. It was, however, useful to know that it was not an installation tool, as that might have eventually been a prospect came to my mind.

    I've tried the live CD. It was somewhat uninspiring. Nothing wrong with KDE. In fact, It is *so* much better than the last time I looked. But the live CD didn't allow me much experimentation. I couldn't turn on compositing, for example. For some reason, I couldn't even connect to my wireless network (although it could see it).

    Anyway, if the purpose of the exercise was to see if I could develop a desktop environment that is as/more functional than my gnome desktop, then the live CD was not a very good experiment because I was unable to even get close to what I would need.

    The other reading was good. It looks like the preferred method for installing 4.3 is to install 4.2 and upgrade. I can think of at least one minor application in my current setup that would be broken by that - plus all the unknown stuff - so I guess I will let this go for now. Maybe I'll try KDE when 11.2 goes stable.

    Anyway, thanks for the help. It was interesting.

    - John

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    > Anyway, thanks for the help. It was interesting.

    welcome..

    on missing capability: it is possible to boot the Live CD and then
    follow the same directions it would take to get to (for example) a
    working composting and wireless on an installed system..

    but, a lot of 'work' to get there, and then just let it evaporate on
    the next boot..

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    Default Re: installing KDE 4.3

    Question, so I can understand. I currently have Gnome installed, but I want convert over to KDE. So is it possible to change over without re-installing?

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    Quote Originally Posted by VcDeveloper1 View Post
    Question, so I can understand. I currently have Gnome installed, but I want convert over to KDE. So is it possible to change over without re-installing?
    Yes. Just follow the above suggestions.
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    VcDeveloper1 wrote:
    > Question, so I can understand. I currently have Gnome installed, but I
    > want convert over to KDE. So is it possible to change over without
    > re-installing?


    sure, but you are going from stable to unknown..

    converting from a usable Gnome system to KDE is easy...except KDE will
    arrive at the mostly broken 4.1 state...which THEN you have to update
    to something more ready for use..

    just use YaST, search for the KDE4 base (and i don't know what else)..
    when that is done log out/change session, and on the next log in page
    click in the lower left corner on "Sessions" and pick KDE4..

    then find (in these fora) the how-to update to 4.2 (or .3, i don't
    remember)..

    an alternative would be to wait for 11.2..

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