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    Default Who are the 'guest' users?

    At first I assumed they were staff, later I've been led to believe they might be people connecting through NNTP or something (not that I truly understand what that's about anyway... knee high to a grasshopper when 'tintertubes were nowt but Usenet ), but I also seem to have seen them apparently replying to themselves...

    So, not angling for personal information or anything, obviously, but I'm nonetheless curious: Who are 'Primary', 'Secondary', 'Tertiary', 'Assistant' and so forth? Shared accounts or actual people? Here professionally, or just for fun / altruism / learning? How many of you are there out there...?

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    The Real Elvis NNTP User

    Default Re: Who are the 'guest' users?

    pull up a chair Confusleing,

    a long time ago folks only had a black screen...which is why they
    called'em the dark ages...before Bill Gates stole the idea of a
    'graphical user interface' from Apple (who saw it first at Xerox) the
    screen was black and white (well, the FANCY ones were black with
    orange or green text)..

    there wasn't yet a WWW and you got email on that little screen with a
    program named Pine (and others)...and you could join discussion groups
    (forums) all over the world on a USer NETtwork called Usnet
    <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Usenet> using the Network News Transfer
    Protocol (NNTP) <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nntp> via your
    Newsreader <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/News_client> to send/receive
    information to others interested in the same thing (say SUSE Linux)..

    so now you can read up on it..

    i use here because i don't have to SIGN IN..

    and, then i don't have to SIGN IN AGAIN because someone thinks that
    one sign in and a cookie to let you in over and over and over is not a
    good thing (like i can at my bank, or stock market broker
    account--where REAL money is at risk)..

    and, i don't have to wade through the winking blinking cute icons...it
    is just pure, raw information--WORDS...

    much much faster for my machine to download, and for me to read...

    it feels like email (NOT HTML email, raw plain TEXT...)

    i like it, you might not..

    yes, we can reply to both other NNTP users and to those who visit via
    HHTP (to the web forum)..

    i use Thunderbird as both my email and newsreader only because it is
    there, it is easy, it works and it is ok..

    but along the way i've used a lot of different ones...my favorite was
    something called NeologicNews which ran on OS/2 Warp...it was a great
    shareware program...i bought a lifetime key for about $30 in about '96
    or so...worth ever cent, though i've not booted to Warp in a long
    time...(i wish i knew exactly when i figured out i could do all i
    wanted on Linux....by the way, i got unhooked from Redmond in '95)

    here are a few newsreaders that are still around
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Usenet_newsreaders (no, i've not
    used'em all....not nearly)..

    it could be that primary, secondary, tertiary, assistant and many
    others are all the same person...or, maybe not..

    since one does not have to register up OR sign in to read/reply/post
    via NNTP tt is just a matter of changing a name to have a new one....

    questions?

    by the way, i'll give you a hint: most of the folks who use NNTP have
    been around the block a time or two...

    --
    The Real Elvis

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    Graham P Davis NNTP User

    Default Re: Who are the 'guest' users?

    Confuseling wrote:

    >
    > At first I assumed they were staff, later I've been led to believe they
    > might be people connecting through NNTP or something (not that I truly
    > understand what that's about anyway... knee high to a grasshopper when
    > 'tintertubes were nowt but Usenet ), but I also seem to have seen them
    > apparently replying to themselves...
    >
    > So, not angling for personal information or anything, obviously, but
    > I'm nonetheless curious: Who are 'Primary', 'Secondary', 'Tertiary',
    > 'Assistant' and so forth? Shared accounts or actual people? Here
    > professionally, or just for fun / altruism / learning? How many of you
    > are there out there...?
    >
    >


    I only use NNTP (or Usenet) so I don't know who or what I am - Guest,
    Primary, Secondary, Tertiary Adjunct of Unimatrix . . . ?

    --
    Graham P Davis, Bracknell, Berks., UK. E-mail: newsman not newsboy



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    Default Re: Who are the 'guest' users?

    I really miss my old Hercules card with green screen, and the continuous chatter of the golfball printer .

    Those were the days .

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    Default Re: Who are the 'guest' users?

    Just to add to the discussion, not all NNTP users show up as "guest". Only those that haven't bothered to synchronize their NNTP and web accounts as explained in the FAQ which states:

    Q:Is my NNTP user ID recognized in the web interface?
    A: If your email address in your newsreader matches the email address you set up in vBulletin you will be recognized on both sides as the same user. If you prefer not to have your real email address in your newsreader, you can use the following syntax for an email address in your newsreader: userid@no-mx.forums.opensuse.org and your user will still be recognized.
    I think that would be a nice thing for NNTP users to do, but there is no requirement to do so as useful participation here is far more important than the synchronization of user accounts.

    Who are 'Primary', 'Secondary', 'Tertiary', 'Assistant' and so forth?
    I'm either being thick today (not unusual) or I'm overlooking the obvious. I don't understand this question.
    My computer always used to beat me at chess, but it is no match for me since I changed the competition to kick boxing

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    Default Re: Who are the 'guest' users?

    Thanks for the insight everybody

    Fire up the ol' web browser (go on... give it a try... all the cool kids are doing it). Point it at this here thread;

    Keyboard won't type upper-case characters? - openSUSE Forums

    You will see an extensive discussion between Primary, Secondary, and Tertiary. Who may or may not be different people using the same names, or the same person using different names, or figments of my poor befuddled imagination...

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    Default Re: Who are the 'guest' users?

    Quote Originally Posted by Confuseling
    Thanks for the insight everybody

    Fire up the ol' web browser (go on... give it a try... all the cool
    kids are doing it). Point it at this here thread;

    'Keyboard won't type upper-case characters? - openSUSE Forums'
    (http://tinyurl.com/dyh3ua)

    You will see an extensive discussion between Primary, Secondary, and
    Tertiary. Who may or may not be different people using the same name, or
    the same person using different names, or figments of my poor befuddled
    imagination...
    Hi
    If you stretch your imagination and fire up a newsreader like knode and
    add the forums.opensuse.org as a news server, then have a look at the
    headers (just like email headers) you will be able to work out very
    quickly if they are different or one in the same

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    up 10:40, 1 user, load average: 0.41, 0.20, 0.13
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    Default Re: Who are the 'guest' users?

    But that would take the fun out of guessing.

    And, Mr Davis, to answer your (implied) question, you are a guest.

    Personally, I think they should be labelled 'Puffins', in varying degrees of confusion. But that's just me.

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    Default Re: Who are the 'guest' users?

    Quote Originally Posted by Confuseling
    But that would take the fun out of guessing.

    And, Mr Davis, to answer your (implied) question, you are a guest.

    Personally, I think they should be labelled 'Puffins', in varying
    degrees of confusion. But that's just me.
    Hi
    btw, I use nntp (and am not a guest).......

    LOL@puffins maybe skinks might be better?

    @Kim, can we change the name Guest to something else?


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    The Real Elvis NNTP User

    Default Re: Who are the 'guest' users?

    > you will be able to work out very quickly if they are different or
    > one in the same


    ah...you make it too easy..

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    The Real Elvis

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