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    kamon8124 NNTP User

    Default No sound in Opensuse 11.1 (or any linux distro!)

    Hi
    I recently purchased a new Asus F8Va-B1. I have since been attempting to load a distro of Linux onto it. This laptop has many hardware support issues with common distros. After trying (no joke) at least 10 distros, I ended up attempting Opensuse. Opensuse worked flawlessly, except the sound. I hear the boot and shutdown sounds, but besides that, a nice big empty silence. The sound card is a new Azalia complient Intel chip. (I have no idea what specific type)
    Help?
    (While it is not *entirely* true, please assume that I am a complete newcomer to linux terminal commands, etc.)

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    Default Re: No sound in Opensuse 11.1 (or any linux distro!)

    It looks unlikely to work. The boot noises don't come from the sound card/chip. I checked asus web site too and to me it looks like that laptop is very much Vista.

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    Default Re: No sound in Opensuse 11.1 (or any linux distro!)

    Quote Originally Posted by kamon8124 View Post
    I hear the boot and shutdown sounds, but besides that, a nice big empty silence.
    If you can hear the boot and shutdown sounds, then it is likely your sound works.

    To confirm sound functionality, copy and paste the following speaker-test into a gnome terminal or a kde konsole:
    speaker-test -c2 -l5 -twav
    and you should hear a lady's voice saying 'FRONT LEFT','FRONT RIGHT' five times. Also try that with root permissions if it fails to work with regular user permissions.

    If you do have this basic sound, then its likely you have a codec problem or a media player problem. Novell/SuSE-GmbH packaged media players and codecs are very restricted in that they follow the free software movement and they do NOT support proprietary codecs. In order to play sound from proprietary codecs (which are the vast majority of available codecs) you will need to both update your openSUSE Linux software and add support for proprietary codecs from 3rd party sources.

    Possibly the best way to update your software is to do so over the Internet by adding repositories to your Software Package Manager, where "repositories" (repos) are in essence file servers on the internet with software applications, in this case for openSUSE Linux. I recommend you add ONLY oss, non-oss, update and packman repositories. NOT videolan. Just those four (oss, non-oss, update and packman). No others. None. Only after you learn of the risks and problems that can happen when you add other repos, and learn how to fix the problems that can happen, should you add other than those 4.

    To add those 4 repositories,follow the guidance here: Repositories/11.1 - openSUSE-Community Again, add only OSS, Non-OSS, Update and Packman.

    Once those 4 are added, with your PC connected to the Internet, go to YaST > Software > Software Management and change the 'Filter' to "search" and then search and install the following: .... replace Novell/SuSE-GmbH packaged libxine1, amarok with the Packman packaged libxine1 and amarok. Also add the packman packaged xine-ui, amarok-xine, amarok-packman, smplayer, mplayerplug-in, kaffeine, vlc, w32codec-all, libffmpeg0. The last two are to pickup any missing codecs. You can tell packman versions because they have the "pm" in the version number. Those are just example applications - but they should provide the capability to play most multimedia that you will encounter.

    Pay close attention to your mixer settings. Sometimes when you start an application the PCM volume control will jump to a low level and you will need to move it back up to get your volume/sound back.

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    At first, the sound test failed. But then I cranked up the sound from about 70 percent to the highest possible level, and then I heard (faintly) the test. I will attempt adding the repositories you directed me to and let you know what happens.

    Also, this laptop is shipped stock with a splashtop based OS where the sound works perfectly. Is there any way to import codecs/drivers from that distribution?

    Thank you very much for your help!

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    Quote Originally Posted by kamon8124 View Post
    At first, the sound test failed. But then I cranked up the sound from about 70 percent to the highest possible level, and then I heard (faintly) the test. I will attempt adding the repositories you directed me to and let you know what happens.
    Those repositories won't help your volume levels. They will help provide a capability to play the most common video and audio files.

    Go to YAST > Hardware > Sound > Other > Volume and move both PCM and Master volume levels up high. Then close YaST. Then go to your mixer (kmix or alsamixer) and move up your Master and PCM volume levels. Then try your volume.

    If that does not work, advise, and we can check to see if there are more complex fixes that can be attempted.
    Quote Originally Posted by kamon8124 View Post
    Also, this laptop is shipped stock with a splashtop based OS where the sound works perfectly. Is there any way to import codecs/drivers from that distribution?
    I have no idea as to what a "splashtop based OS" might be.

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    Quote Originally Posted by caf4926 View Post
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    ok ,... then based on that ....

    reference the question:
    Quote Originally Posted by kamon8124 View Post
    Also, this laptop is shipped stock with a splashtop based OS where the sound works perfectly. Is there any way to import codecs/drivers from that distribution?
    My guess is NO. As far as I can see, there is no way to get past the GUI front end to splashtop.

    But having stated that, if splashtop is using a form of Linux, then they are required to release their source code to be compliant with the GPL. Hence there is a reasonable likelihood their drivers for sound are known, and probably already upstream and part of alsa.

    The fact you can hear the startup and shutdown sound in openSUSE indicates openSUSE supports your sound.

    Did you have any luck following my suggestion re:
    a. your applications/codecs, and
    b. improving your PC (Asus F8Va-B1) volume?

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    kamon8124, further to this thread, if you have had no success in improving your volume, its possible either an update to your alsa sound driver, or a fine tuning of your sound configuration, will help your audio/sound.

    In order to know if that is the case, I need more information on your Asus F8Va-B1 laptop. Please, with your laptop connected to the internet, can you open a gnome terminal or a kde konsole, and run the following with root permissions (you may need to run this twice, the first time to update and the second time to get the result):
    /usr/sbin/alsa-info.sh
    and provide here the URL that is given to you. Just post the URL.

    Also, in addition to running the script above to get the URL, please copy and paste the following into a gnome terminal or kde konsole and paste here the output:
    rpm -qa | grep alsa
    rpm -qa | grep pulse
    rpm -q libasound2
    uname -a
    cat /etc/modprobe.d/sound
    based on that I may be able to provide some commands to update alsa and maybe to fine tune your /etc/modprobe.d/sound file.

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    Default Re: No sound in Opensuse 11.1 (or any linux distro!)

    OldCPU, that cocktail of software did it! After installing the packages, I rebooted and checked my sound systems. First, I put the sound level to max. Then, I changed the audio output device(s) to auto-detect. And voila! Perfect sound in all media players etc! Thank you so much for your help!
    Opensuse rocks!

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    I have a GA-MA790GP-DS4H (rev. 1.0) which has a Realtek ALC889A codec. Unfortunately sound doesn't work for me with this board under 11.1 out of the box. What do I need to do to fix it??

    GIGABYTE - Product - Motherboard - Specification - GA-MA790GP-DS4H (rev. 1.0)

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