How to config YaST2 in 11.1 to update to Factory?

[caf4926]

Show us your repo's, there is no update repo for 11.2 exactly ATM

zypper lr -d

[robopensuse]

Originally Posted by Akoellh

Then stay on 11.1, because you will most likely have to recompile a lot of that stuff after the upgrade.

No, I've had few problems in past installing rpm's I self-built on older SuSE versions for updated releases. The reason I used rpm to build, was so I had an easily manageable and installable binary package which would work on clean installs.

What ABI changes have occured between 11.2 and 11.1, which makes you think programs would need recompiling?

How would 3rd party applications like Adobe Flash ever work if recompilation was necessary on a new release?

[robopensuse]

Originally Posted by hellopeach

I'm using 11.1 for sometime, now I want to upgrade to Factory, so I added the Factory software sources listed here :
Factory Distribution - openSUSE

You could upgrade to 11.2-RC1, which appears to be a very recent snapshot of the Factory stuff. The lightest way to do it, is to burn Netinstall CD, boot it, set the keyboard, and then the HTTP repository to http://download.opensuse.org/distrib...11.2/repo/oss/ which actually resolves to http://widehat.opensuse.org/factory-snapshot/repo/oss/ and a factory snapshot on the development area. It should offer you an update, and import settings from your existing 11.1 install; though unfortunately I chose a clean install option, over-writing my 11.1 test installation through habit (upgrades usually had drawbacks with unused new features eg) not using ext4).

So by doing that, you get the "latest & greatest" and help field test the next release. Factory is AFAIK temporarily more or less frozen, till the OS-11.2 release is out the door.

Perhaps as part of the upgrade you could resize partitions, so you have room to install cleanly a Factory version, which can then get broken; leaving you with an 11.1 or 11.2 release for everyday work.

Before doing any major update, you ought to have a backup of your system, so you can recover your work, WHEN (if??) things go wrong.

[robopensuse]

Originally Posted by hellopeach

Thanks a lot, I did "export ZYPP_ARIA2C=1" and "zypper dup", and it upgrades to Factory/11.2 with little trouble, I can boot into the system no problem and all applications work nicely so far.

However when I go to YaST and select online update, it still says "No update repository configured yet", and takes me to the update configuration panel, where it shows nothing about configuring update repository.

Great that the 'zypper dup' upgrade method works, that's one of the 'new' features official support for simple commandline upgrade.

11.2-RC1 Online update does work, it just has place holder packages for the Update system. The release is NOT officially supported, it is development, and that is frozen for all but 'show stopper' bugs till 11.2 is out the door. Any urgent fixes, will go into RC2 and Gold Master versions of 11.2, they're unlikely to be released via online update to the testing community.

Originally Posted by hellopeach

So anyway to configure YaST in the now Factory/11.2 system to use the Factory repository as update repository, or do I have to run terminal and manually do "zypper up" every time?

Have you joined the Factory mail list? The best time to start running Factory will probably be just after 11.2 is released, and updated packages begin coming in for testing, as candidates for the 11.2 system. Once again, plan on a seperate installation, and follow the instructions and caveats for Factory, it is for development & testing, not expected to be a reliable and pleasant system for everyday use.

[hellopeach]

Originally Posted by caf4926

Show us your repo's, there is no update repo for 11.2 exactly ATM

zypper lr -d

It's like this:

1  | Factory_Non-OSS        | Factory Non-OSS        | Yes     | Yes   |    6   | yast2  | http://download.opensuse.org/factory/repo/non-oss/              |
2  | Factory_Non-OSS_Source | Factory Non-OSS Source | Yes     | Yes   |    7   | yast2  | http://download.opensuse.org/source/factory/repo/non-oss/       |
3  | Factory_OSS            | Factory OSS            | Yes     | Yes   |    6   | yast2  | http://download.opensuse.org/factory/repo/oss/                  |
4  | Factory_OSS_Debug      | Factory OSS Debug      | No     | Yes   |    8   | yast2  | http://download.opensuse.org/debug/factory/repo/oss/            |
5  | Factory_OSS_Source     | Factory OSS Source     | Yes     | Yes   |    7   | yast2  | http://download.opensuse.org/source/factory/repo/oss/           |
6  | openSUSE 11.1-0        | openSUSE 11.1-0        | No     | No   |   99   | yast2  | cd:///?devices=/dev/sr0                                         |
7  | repo-debug             | openSUSE-11.1-Debug    | No     | No   |  100   | NONE   | http://download.opensuse.org/debug/distribution/11.1/repo/oss/  |
8  | repo-non-oss           | openSUSE-11.1-Non-Oss  | No     | No   |  100   | yast2  | http://download.opensuse.org/distribution/11.1/repo/non-oss/    |
9  | repo-oss               | openSUSE-11.1-Oss      | No     | No   |  100   | yast2  | http://download.opensuse.org/distribution/11.1/repo/oss/        |
10 | repo-source            | openSUSE-11.1-Source   | No     | No   |  100   | NONE   | http://download.opensuse.org/source/distribution/11.1/repo/oss/ |
11 | repo-update            | openSUSE-11.1-Update   | No     | No   |   20   | rpm-md | http://download.opensuse.org/update/11.1/                       |

[caf4926]

It's not a pretty sight. I'm just wondering what you think you can achieve by doing this?
Apart, that is, from borking your system.

[hellopeach]

Originally Posted by caf4926

It's not a pretty sight. I'm just wondering what you think you can achieve by doing this?
Apart, that is, from borking your system.

what do you mean? I just disabled all the 11.1 repositories, and then added the Factory repositories. What's wrong with that?

So far it is not borking my system at all, as it runs quite nicely with all the third party programs functioning alright too.

Even if it did bork my system, I always have a backup that can restore the system back within ten minutes, so I don't really care.

Now back to the question : is there any way to make YaST automatically update from the Factory repositories, instead of running "zypper up" manually?

[caf4926]

If you configure the Updater applet (something I never use) will that not do it?. It wouldn't be my inclination to leave repos like that to 'Auto-Update' in any case.

And before you ask why: = Because.

But if you are happy to use it this way, that's fine.

[robopensuse]

Originally Posted by hellopeach

So far it is not borking my system at all, as it runs quite nicely with all the third party programs functioning alright too.

Even if it did bork my system, I always have a backup that can restore the system back within ten minutes, so I don't really care.

You're basically going to a 11.2-RC1 version of OS, which now (for first time) officially supports a "zypper dup" upgrade method. There doesn't seem to be any tricky changes, which break compatability, so in a way you are 'lucky'.

The skepticism of the old hands is in general warranted.

Originally Posted by hellopeach

Now back to the question : is there any way to make YaST automatically update from the Factory repositories, instead of running "zypper up" manually?

The Updater applet, Online Update and Auto Online update are alternative methods, giving more or less user control & convenience.

If you really want to automaticaly update a 'Factory' system, and pay no attention to whether the update will break things, then eventually you will have a borked system; but you can do it, via running "zypper up" in a cron job. See crontab(1) as root, to start this process off.

I can't see the point in running Factory if you aren't doing it to test things though, and have facilities to report breakage properly and investigate. Better to go with 11.2 series, when it comes out soon.