Brand new here - just installed 11.2 ms 8

MountainX · #1 (**permalink**) 12-Oct-2009, 23:12

I just installed 11.2 milestone 8 with KDE on a Thinkpad T61p. I am amazed at the great installation experience and the fact that my hardware works out of the box! Great stuff.

Now I want to tweak my Trackpoint settings. I want the pointer speed to be faster and the movement more sensitive. And I want to get middle button scrolling in Firefox to work better.

I also want to enable desktop effects. (My laptop has an NVidia 570M card.)

Where should I look for help on these issues? Thanks.

caf4926 · #2 (**permalink**) 12-Oct-2009, 23:22

System Settings - Keyboard and Mouse - Mouse

Graphics is a bigger issue. I'm not sure about your GPU 570M

You could just try going to the System Settings - Desktop - Desktop Effects and Enable (This is for KDE, Gnome might be different)

You may need to go to Yast - Hardware - Graphics and Monitor
See if the 3D check box is ticked.

Open a terminal and do:

Code:

cat /etc/X11/xorg.conf

Post that and we will know some more

MountainX · #3 (**permalink**) 13-Oct-2009, 08:36

Thank you for your reply.

Quote:

Originally Posted by caf4926

System Settings - Keyboard and Mouse - Mouse

The Trackpoint settings (e.g. sensitivity, inertia, etc.) are not there. The pointer acceleration is the only option available there and it has little or no effect on the trackpoint.

Previously I set these Trackpoint values via text files under locations such as

Code:

/sys/devices/platform/i8042/

The specific location seems to be distro and device dependent and I'm not sure how one determines where to put these files.

I could experiment, but I'd rather know the right way to do this in OpenSUSE.

Quote:

Originally Posted by caf4926

Graphics is a bigger issue. I'm not sure about your GPU 570M

You could just try going to the System Settings - Desktop - Desktop Effects and Enable (This is for KDE, Gnome might be different)

You may need to go to Yast - Hardware - Graphics and Monitor
See if the 3D check box is ticked.

In Yast, under Hardware I do not have "Graphics and Monitor". It shows everything else, including my Fingerprint reader, infrared and even lists TV Card. But no "Graphics and Monitor".

Quote:

Originally Posted by caf4926

Open a terminal and do:

Code:

cat /etc/X11/xorg.conf

Post that and we will know some more

I thought all the mouse and input stuff had been moved to evdev in the latest X org... I'm coming here from Ubuntu and I was a bit of a newbie on Ubuntu still, so now I'm back to feeling like a real newbie again.

myuser@linux-t9jd:~> cat /etc/X11/xorg.conf
cat: /etc/X11/xorg.conf: No such file or directory

I poked around and found this file:

Code:

cat /etc/X11/xorg.conf.install 
Section "Device"                                          
  Identifier "vboxvideo"                                  
  Driver  "vboxvideo"                                     
EndSection                                                

Section "Screen"
  Identifier "vboxvideo"
  Device "vboxvideo"    
EndSection              


Section "Device"
  Identifier "vmware"
  Driver  "vmware"   
EndSection           

Section "Screen"
  Identifier "vmware"
  Device "vmware"    
EndSection           


Section "Device"
  Identifier "cirrus"
  Driver  "cirrus"   
EndSection           
Section "Screen"
  Identifier "cirrus"
  Device "cirrus"
EndSection


Section "Device"
  Identifier "fbdev"
  Driver  "fbdev"
EndSection
Section "Screen"
  Identifier "fbdev"
  Device "fbdev"
EndSection


Section "Device"
  Identifier "vesa"
  Driver  "vesa"
EndSection

Section "Screen"
  Identifier "vesa"
  Device "vesa"
EndSection


Section "ServerLayout"
  Identifier "Layout"
  Screen  "vboxvideo"
  Screen  "vmware"
  Screen  "cirrus"
  Screen  "fbdev"
  Screen  "vesa"
EndSection

caf4926 · #4 (**permalink**) 13-Oct-2009, 08:40

You must have done something wrong. Try again.

cat /etc/X11/xorg.conf

Are you using gnome or kde4? Just so I know where to send you. I'm really a kde user.

MountainX · #5 (**permalink**) 13-Oct-2009, 08:46

BTW, here is a working X.org.conf that I used on this same hardware with a prior version of Ubuntu (8.04 I think). My hardware is still the same.

Can I use these same settings now on KDE/OpenSUSE 11.2?

Code:

# xorg.conf (xorg X Window System server configuration file)
#
# This file was generated by dexconf, the Debian X Configuration tool, using
# values from the debconf database.
#
# Edit this file with caution, and see the xorg.conf manual page.
# (Type "man xorg.conf" at the shell prompt.)
#
# This file is automatically updated on xserver-xorg package upgrades *only*
# if it has not been modified since the last upgrade of the xserver-xorg
# package.
#
# If you have edited this file but would like it to be automatically updated
# again, run the following command:
#   sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg

Section "Files"
EndSection

Section "InputDevice"
        Identifier      "Generic Keyboard"
        Driver          "kbd"
        Option          "CoreKeyboard"
        Option          "XkbRules"      "xorg"
        Option          "XkbModel"      "pc105"
        Option          "XkbLayout"     "us"
EndSection

Section "InputDevice"
        Identifier      "Configured Mouse"
        Driver          "mouse"
        Option          "CorePointer"
        Option          "Device"                "/dev/input/mice"
        Option          "Protocol"              "ExplorerPS/2"
        Option          "ZAxisMapping"          "4 5"
        Option          "Emulate3Buttons"       "on"
        Option          "EmulateWheel"          "on"
        Option          "EmulateWheelTimeOut"   "200"
        Option          "Emulate3TimeOut"       "50"
        Option          "EmulateWheelButton"    "2"
        Option      "YAxisMapping"        "4 5"
        Option      "XAxisMapping"        "6 7"

EndSection

Section "InputDevice"
        Identifier      "Synaptics Touchpad"
        Driver          "synaptics"
        Option          "SendCoreEvents"        "true"
        Option          "Device"                "/dev/psaux"
        Option          "Protocol"              "auto-dev"
        Option          "HorizScrollDelta"      "1"
EndSection


Section "Device"
	Identifier	"nVidia Corporation G80 [Quadro FX 570M]"
	Driver		"nvidia"
	Busid		"PCI:1:0:0"
	# (WW) NVIDIA(0): Option "AddARGBVisuals" is not used
	# Option	"AddARGBVisuals"	"True"
	Option		"AddARGBGLXVisuals"	"True"
	Option		"NoLogo"	"True"
	Option          "NvAGP" "1" #I changed this see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/NvidiaLaptopBinaryDriverSuspend
EndSection

Section "Monitor"
	Identifier	"Generic Monitor"
	Option		"DPMS"
	Horizsync	28-96
	Vertrefresh	43-60
EndSection

Section "Screen"
	Identifier	"Default Screen"
	Device		"nVidia Corporation G80 [Quadro FX 570M]"
	Monitor		"Generic Monitor"
	Defaultdepth	24
	SubSection "Display"
		Modes		"1920x1200"
	EndSubSection #https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/acpi-support/+bug/34043
EndSection

Section "ServerLayout"
	Identifier	"Default Layout"
  screen "Default Screen"
	Inputdevice	"Generic Keyboard"
	Inputdevice	"Configured Mouse" 
	
	# Uncomment if you have a wacom tablet
	#	InputDevice     "stylus"	"SendCoreEvents"
	#	InputDevice     "cursor"	"SendCoreEvents"
	#	InputDevice     "eraser"	"SendCoreEvents"
	Inputdevice	"Synaptics Touchpad"
EndSection
Section "Module"
	Load		"glx"
EndSection

and here are my previous Trackpoint settings:

Code:

#trackpoint configuration
devices/platform/i8042/serio1/serio2/speed=175
devices/platform/i8042/serio1/serio2/sensitivity=160
devices/platform/i8042/serio1/serio2/inertia=10

Maybe I'll try the exact same thing with OpenSUSE...

MountainX · #6 (**permalink**) 13-Oct-2009, 08:48

Quote:

Originally Posted by caf4926

You must have done something wrong. Try again.

cat /etc/X11/xorg.conf

Are you using gnome or kde4? Just so I know where to send you. I'm really a kde user.

I'm using KDE.

I didn't do anything wrong with the cat. Here's proof:

Code:

ls /etc/X11/
fs         qtrc         xdm    xinit           xorg.conf.install
lbxproxy   rstart       xim    Xmodmap         Xresources
proxymngr  x11perfcomp  xim.d  Xmodmap.remote  xsm

caf4926 · #7 (**permalink**) 13-Oct-2009, 08:52

Logout and do a console login and switch to su and do:
sax2 -r

oldcpu · #8 (**permalink**) 13-Oct-2009, 09:02

Comparing those two xorg.conf files (Ubuntu and openSUSE) it looks to me like with Ubuntu your driver was "nvidia" which is the proprietary nVidia graphic driver. With openSUSE your driver was "vesa" which is the low performance but highly compatible VESA graphic driver.

I confess I did not read the entire thread, but clearly the proprietary nVidia driver (that you installed on Ubuntu) should provide significantly superior performance over the lower peformance VESA driver. If you wish to compare apples to apples you need to install the high performance proprietary nVidia driver on openSUSE.

Since you are new

... some links that might help you:

Our forum installation stickie (yes it is written for 11.1 but most of it also applies to 11.2): NEW Users - Suse-11.1 Pre-installation – PLEASE READ - openSUSE Forums

OpenSUSE concepts: Concepts - openSUSE

... also, a word about 11.2 milestone-8. This is in essence equivalent to a beta release. It is NOT intended for a production system and installing it as such is bound to lead to grief in most cases. If you want to try out openSUSE, then either install 11.1 or wait a couple of months and try out 11.2.

11.2 milestone8 is intended for users to test and write bug reports - it is not intended to remain on a PC. When 11.2 GM (the released version) comes out in November my recommendations will be to re-install 11.2.

MountainX · #9 (**permalink**) 13-Oct-2009, 09:13

Quote:

Originally Posted by caf4926

Logout and do a console login and switch to su and do:
sax2 -r

Thanks. I did that. Now I have an xorg.conf file.

Code:

# /.../                                                  
# SaX generated X11 config file                          
# Created on: 2009-10-13T10:08:55-0400.                  
#                                                        
# Version: 8.1                                           
# Contact: Marcus Schaefer <sax@suse.de>, 2005           
# Contact: SaX-User list <https://lists.berlios.de/mailman/listinfo/sax-users>
#                                                                             
# Automatically generated by [ISaX] (8.1)                                     
# PLEASE DO NOT EDIT THIS FILE!                                               
#                                                                             

Section "Files"
  FontPath     "/usr/share/fonts/misc:unscaled"
  FontPath     "/usr/share/fonts/local"        
  FontPath     "/usr/share/fonts/75dpi:unscaled"
  FontPath     "/usr/share/fonts/100dpi:unscaled"
  FontPath     "/usr/share/fonts/Type1"          
  FontPath     "/usr/share/fonts/URW"            
  FontPath     "/usr/share/fonts/Speedo"         
  FontPath     "/usr/share/fonts/PEX"            
  FontPath     "/usr/share/fonts/cyrillic"       
  FontPath     "/usr/share/fonts/latin2/misc:unscaled"
  FontPath     "/usr/share/fonts/latin2/75dpi:unscaled"
  FontPath     "/usr/share/fonts/latin2/100dpi:unscaled"
  FontPath     "/usr/share/fonts/latin2/Type1"          
  FontPath     "/usr/share/fonts/latin7/75dpi:unscaled" 
  FontPath     "/usr/share/fonts/baekmuk:unscaled"      
  FontPath     "/usr/share/fonts/japanese:unscaled"     
  FontPath     "/usr/share/fonts/kwintv"                
  FontPath     "/usr/share/fonts/truetype"              
  FontPath     "/usr/share/fonts/uni:unscaled"          
  FontPath     "/usr/share/fonts/CID"                   
  FontPath     "/usr/share/fonts/ucs/misc:unscaled"     
  FontPath     "/usr/share/fonts/ucs/75dpi:unscaled"    
  FontPath     "/usr/share/fonts/ucs/100dpi:unscaled"   
  FontPath     "/usr/share/fonts/hellas/misc:unscaled"  
  FontPath     "/usr/share/fonts/hellas/75dpi:unscaled" 
  FontPath     "/usr/share/fonts/hellas/100dpi:unscaled"
  FontPath     "/usr/share/fonts/hellas/Type1"          
  FontPath     "/usr/share/fonts/misc/sgi:unscaled"     
  FontPath     "/usr/share/fonts/xtest"                 
  FontPath     "/opt/kde3/share/fonts"                  
  InputDevices "/dev/gpmdata"                           
  InputDevices "/dev/input/mice"                        
EndSection                                              

Section "ServerFlags"
  Option       "AllowMouseOpenFail" "on"
  Option       "ZapWarning" "on"        
EndSection                              

Section "Module"
  Load         "dri"
  Load         "dbe"
  Load         "extmod"
  Load         "glx"   
EndSection             

Section "InputDevice"
  # Driver "kbd" will be disabled unless 'Option "AutoAddDevices" "off"' 
  # is set in "ServerFlags" section.                                     
  Driver       "kbd"                                                     
  Identifier   "Keyboard[0]"                                             
  Option       "Protocol" "Standard"                                     
  Option       "XkbLayout" "us"                                          
  Option       "XkbModel" "microsoftpro"                                 
  Option       "XkbRules" "xfree86"                                      
EndSection                                                               


Section "InputDevice"
  # Driver "mouse" will be disabled unless 'Option "AutoAddDevices" "off"' 
  # is set in "ServerFlags" section.                                       
  Driver       "mouse"                                                     
  Identifier   "Mouse[1]"                                                  
  Option       "Buttons" "5"                                               
  Option       "Device" "/dev/input/mice"                                  
  Option       "Name" "SynPS/2 Synaptics TouchPad"                         
  Option       "Protocol" "explorerps/2"                                   
  Option       "Vendor" "Sysp"                                             
  Option       "ZAxisMapping" "4 5"                                        
EndSection                                                                 


Section "Monitor"
  Option       "CalcAlgorithm" "XServerPool"
  DisplaySize  331 207                      
  HorizSync    30-94                        
  Identifier   "Monitor[0]"                 
  ModelName    "LENOVO LCD MONITOR"         
  Option       "DPMS"                       
  Option       "PreferredMode" "1920x1200"  
  VendorName   "LEN"                        
  VertRefresh  43-60                        
  UseModes     "Modes[0]"                   
EndSection                                  


Section "Modes"
  Identifier   "Modes[0]"
EndSection               


Section "Screen"
  DefaultDepth 24
  SubSection "Display"
    Depth      15     
    Modes      "1920x1200" "1900x1200" "1920x1080" "1600x1200" "1680x1050" "1600x1024" "1600x1000" "1400x1050" "1600x900" "1280x1024" "1440x900" "1280x960" "1366x768" "1360x768" "1280x800" "1152x864" "1280x768" "1280x720" "1024x768" "1280x600" "1024x600" "800x600" "768x576" "640x480"                                    
  EndSubSection                                                                 
  SubSection "Display"                                                          
    Depth      16                                                               
    Modes      "1920x1200" "1900x1200" "1920x1080" "1600x1200" "1680x1050" "1600x1024" "1600x1000" "1400x1050" "1600x900" "1280x1024" "1440x900" "1280x960" "1366x768" "1360x768" "1280x800" "1152x864" "1280x768" "1280x720" "1024x768" "1280x600" "1024x600" "800x600" "768x576" "640x480"                                    
  EndSubSection                                                                 
  SubSection "Display"                                                          
    Depth      24                                                               
    Modes      "1920x1200" "1900x1200" "1920x1080" "1600x1200" "1680x1050" "1600x1024" "1600x1000" "1400x1050" "1600x900" "1280x1024" "1440x900" "1280x960" "1366x768" "1360x768" "1280x800" "1152x864" "1280x768" "1280x720" "1024x768" "1280x600" "1024x600" "800x600" "768x576" "640x480"                                    
  EndSubSection                                                                 
  SubSection "Display"                                                          
    Depth      8                                                                
    Modes      "1920x1200" "1900x1200" "1920x1080" "1600x1200" "1680x1050" "1600x1024" "1600x1000" "1400x1050" "1600x900" "1280x1024" "1440x900" "1280x960" "1366x768" "1360x768" "1280x800" "1152x864" "1280x768" "1280x720" "1024x768" "1280x600" "1024x600" "800x600" "768x576" "640x480"                                    
  EndSubSection
  Device       "Device[0]"
  Identifier   "Screen[0]"
  Monitor      "Monitor[0]"
EndSection


Section "Device"
  BoardName    "Quadro FX 570M"
  Driver       "nv"
  Identifier   "Device[0]"
  VendorName   "NVidia"
EndSection



Section "ServerLayout"
  Identifier   "Layout[all]"
  InputDevice  "Keyboard[0]" "CoreKeyboard"
  InputDevice  "Mouse[1]" "CorePointer"
  Option       "Clone" "off"
  Option       "Xinerama" "off"
  Screen       "Screen[0]"
EndSection


Section "DRI"
    Group      "video"
    Mode       0660
EndSection

Section "Extensions"
  Option       "Composite" "off"
EndSection

I still do not have "Graphics and Monitors" in Yast Hardware.

EDIT. I also get this message in Desktop Effectss now (it was not there before):

Compositing is not supported on your system.
Required X extensions (XComposite and XDamage) are not available.

oldcpu · #10 (**permalink**) 13-Oct-2009, 09:33

Quote:

Originally Posted by MountainX

Thanks. I did that. Now I have an xorg.conf file.

Code:

Section "Device"
  BoardName    "Quadro FX 570M"
  Driver       "nv"
  Identifier   "Device[0]"
  VendorName   "NVidia"
EndSection

....
Compositing is not supported on your system.
Required X extensions (XComposite and XDamage) are not available.

For the record, by running that command "sax2 -r", your video driver has been changed from using the "VESA" graphic driver to using the "nv" graphic driver, where "nv" graphic driver is the open source free graphic driver for nvidia graphics hardware (not to be confused with "nvidia" which is the proprietary nvidia graphic driver). The "nv" driver is reasonably compatible with various kernel builds, and has much higher performance than the VESA driver but significantly less performance than the "nvidia" driver, which may in part explain why "Compositing is not supported on your system".

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