This lizard will help you set up your printer...

[consused]

Indeed, but an english classical education possibly. I often wondered how an Italian would pronounce it?

BTW, a magical lizard could be a Dragon...

[Prexy]

I am not taking this thread any further off track.

die-moan

[consused]

@Prexy, Thanks for the italian pronunciation.

Originally Posted by Confuseling

FeatherMonkey; Yes, that thread does raise some interesting points between the flak. And I think I agree with you about the apparent purpose of SuSE - whether it is fulfiling that is beyond the scope of this debate...

Just re-read FeatherMonkey's post there and the link therein. I feel very comfortable with that positioning of openSUSE but with questions and concerns and I agree with the above comment about scope of this debate.

FeatherMonkey's post re the mailing-list link and comments about it could make a useful starting post to debate in its own right, here in this Marketing forum. Just a suggestion, but I wonder if Feather Monkey would be prepared to start a new thread with that??

Maybe the first lizard would wear a wizard's hat?

Why not? To keep to the lizard theme, he could easily be dressed as a wizard to make a good icon. Then you have to answer the question about its name. Do you call it Wizard, Lizard, or something else? Picture the icon as if it were on the desktop. I would immediately recognize it as a Wizard i.e. a helpful utility. What about you??

Hope that brings us back on both tracks as suggested...

[Confuseling]

@ Prexy: again, I draw your attention to the fact that there are two threads in this forum. I think this one can meander in whichever direction it chooses.

I actually quite like the Dragon idea - I will mention that (duly credited) if I post on openfate, and having met no anguished cries of "Don't you dare do that to my distro!", it looks like I might well do so, to get the discussion going if nothing else.

Personally, I don't see the "Wizard = Helpful Software" connection as much more than an arbitrary convention. I can see the difficulty with people sat down in front of a running system, and wanting to search for something to configure things for them - but then, I suppose you could just have a help page linked from a search for 'Wizard' explaining what a Lizard does.

With new users, if I sat down as a Windows refugee and set up my system, and a box appeared saying;

"Do you want to run the printers lizard?
This lizard will help you set up your newly detected printer.
Yes No"

I don't think I'd be thrown into paroxysms of confusion.

In fact, they could all wear wizard's cloaks and hats, and you could call them whatever you pleased. They could even be referred to in shorthand as Lizards but officially called Wizard Lizards (Lizard Wizards?) to completely eliminate the ambiguity - it would still stamp them with the distinctive 'SuSE' identity.

[consused]

I agree that you can change perception (over time). My desktop analogy was rather limited. It's more the "context", as someone else here pointed out, in which the wizard word is understood. In an IT context it's understood to mean a helper/utility.

So given that, but only my opinion and it just flows/sounds better, Lizard Wizards gets my vote.

[consused]

Of course Liz[ard Wiz]ards becomes Lizards, over time. That's inevitable given the spoken word.

[Confuseling]

Originally Posted by consused

Of course Liz[ard Wiz]ards becomes Lizards, over time. That's inevitable given the spoken word.

This had not escaped my attention.

Mwa ha, and indeed ha.

[whych]

I disagree - *nix DAEMON = demon. It's probably American too?!

[Sagemta]

I agree when one speaks of wizard in IT even the dumbest of the dumb know what a wizard is.
When it comes to using the term lizard to make Opensuse stand out though I think it'd be a great & fun idea.

[dragonbite]

Originally Posted by Confuseling

Should I open a report on openfate requesting that the wizards are renamed lizards? What do you think?

If you're working with the guts of the operating system, does that make you a gizard?

(yeah, I know it's misspelled, but it follows the "lizard" and "wizard" spellings)