Do not install yast2 ISDN update if you have Pantech modem

[seasoned_geek]

All,

I'm just about to finish re-installing my entire notebook due to the yast2 ISDN patch/update which was recently released. DO NOT install it if you have a Pantech modem which is working now. It will not be working once you install that no matter what you do. In the infinite wisdom of Yast, they do not allow you to back out patches. I had issues with my backup utility, so doing a complete re-install now.

[AndreasStieger]

seasoned geek wrote:
> I'm just about to finish re-installing my entire notebook due to the
> yast2 ISDN patch/update which was recently released. DO NOT install it
> if you have a Pantech modem which is working now. It will not be
> working once you install that no matter what you do. In the infinite
> wisdom of Yast, they do not allow you to back out patches.

Incorrect. You can always go back to the older version of the package.

> I had issues with my backup utility, so doing a complete re-install now.

Too bad.

Kind regards
Andreas Stieger

[seasoned_geek]

No, correct. Once the patch was installed it would not allow it to be backed out or deleted. Re-install didn't fix it either, tried that twice.

[smpoole7]

Originally Posted by AndreasStieger

Incorrect. You can always go back to the older version of the package.

How do you back to the previous version?

[AndreasStieger]

seasoned geek wrote:
> No, correct. Once the patch was installed it would not allow it to be
> backed out or deleted. Re-install didn't fix it either, tried that
> twice.

I'm afraid you're incorrect. You can install any patched package...

$ zypper search -s yast2-network
Loading repository data...
Reading installed packages...

S | Name                    | Type       | Version       | Arch   | Repository
--+-------------------------+------------+---------------+--------+---------------------
i | yast2-network           | package    | 2.17.66-1.1.1 | i586   | openSUSE-11.1-Update
v | yast2-network           | package    | 2.17.60-1.4   | i586   | openSUSE 11.1-0
v | yast2-network           | package    | 2.17.60-1.4   | i586   | openSUSE-11.1-Oss
| yast2-network           | srcpackage | 2.17.66-1.1.1 | noarch | openSUSE-11.1-Update
| yast2-network           | srcpackage | 2.17.60-1.4   | noarch | openSUSE-11.1-Source
i | yast2-network           | patch      | 471           | noarch | openSUSE-11.1-Update
| yast2-network-devel-doc | package    | 2.17.66-1.1.1 | i586   | openSUSE-11.1-Update
| yast2-network-devel-doc | package    | 2.17.60-1.4   | i586   | openSUSE-11.1-Oss

....in any version...

$ zypper install yast2-network=2.17.60-1.4
Loading repository data...
Reading installed packages...
Resolving package dependencies...

The following package is going to be downgraded:
yast2-network


Overall download size: 327.0 K. After the operation, 7.0 K will be freed.
Continue? [YES/no]:
Retrieving package yast2-network-2.17.60-1.4.i586 (1/1), 327.0 K (2.0 M unpacked)
Installing: yast2-network-2.17.60-1.4 [done]

....you happen to like that day...

$ zypper install yast2-network=2.17.66-1.1.1
Loading repository data...
Reading installed packages...
Resolving package dependencies...

The following package is going to be upgraded:
yast2-network


Overall download size: 330.0 K. After the operation, additional 7.0 K will be used.
Continue? [YES/no]:
Retrieving package yast2-network-2.17.66-1.1.1.i586 (1/1), 330.0 K (2.0 M unpacked)
Retrieving delta: ./rpm/i586/yast2-network-2.17.60_2.17.66-1.4_1.1.1.i586.delta.rpm, 62.0 K
Retrieving: yast2-network-2.17.60_2.17.66-1.4_1.1.1.i586.delta.rpm [done]
Applying delta: ./yast2-network-2.17.60_2.17.66-1.4_1.1.1.i586.delta.rpm [done]
Installing: yast2-network-2.17.66-1.1.1 [done]

....because all of them are in the repositories.

So much for the messy part.

Original release versions aren't removed from the release repositories.
Intermediate updates version aren't removed either from the update repositories.
(Example: MozillaFirefox patched several times since 11.1 release)
Any such version is hence still installable for install. And yes, for mouse
operators there's an easy YaST way, look for the "versions" tab.

Kind regards,
Andreas Stieger

[smpoole7]

Originally Posted by AndreasStieger

Original release versions aren't removed from the release repositories.
Intermediate updates version aren't removed either from the update repositories.
(Example: MozillaFirefox patched several times since 11.1 release)
Any such version is hence still installable for install. And yes, for mouse
operators there's an easy YaST way, look for the "versions" tab.

I didn't know that. Thanks for sharing it. Proof that you can learn something new every day.

Frankly, having suffered MAJOR problems after some updates in the past, this definitely needs to be made obvious to the user. With some busted Kernel updates, I've backed off to the previous version, but I wasn't aware that the older versions for ALL updates were still in the repos. That's handy to know!

> this definitely needs to be made obvious to the user.

AGREE!
is it in the howTo, or faQ, or maybe the wiki, or (heaven help us) so
near as to be in the onboard documentation at:
file:///usr/share/doc/manual/opensuse-manual_en/manual/index.html

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solo