10.3 not updating (+ GDM settings).

Qoph · #1 (**permalink**) 13-Jul-2009, 14:38

I just installed openSUSE 10.3 because the DVD for 11.1 wasn't booting. Actually, my ultimate goal is to install Slackware, but that's also on a DVD and won't boot. However, while I have 10.3, I would like to update it a bit.

The update manager says that I have 276 mandatory updates, but when I tell it to update, it takes about a minute and then says to restart. Which does nothing, as I have the same amount of updates afterward. I manually updated a few programs such as Firefox, and that brought the total mandatory updates down to the aforementioned number. It was originally at 280.

This has an older YaST2 as well, which doesn't have the update category that allows viewing of all possible updates and to choose what to update and what not to. Can I update YaST2 to the latest version on 10.3? I don't want YaST to stop working completely.

I like some things in 10.3 better than 11.1 (which I have on a desktop). Such as the GDM. In 10.3, it makes you type in your user name; in 11.1, you click on your user name. I've been trying in vain to figure out a way to make it behave as in 10.3 for my 11.1 desktop.

This isn't the place for it, but if anyone has any idea why my laptop (IBM ThinkPad R40) isn't booting from DVD's, please feel free to flex your knowledge. The bootable CD I made (ISO taken from IBM's site) to get a firmware update didn't boot either, though. I know at least that the Slackware install DVD works because it booted on my Acer. Yes the drive says CD-RW/DVD ROM on it.

caf4926 · #2 (**permalink**) 13-Jul-2009, 15:05

I think though if you go to software management you can filter by repo and select updates and do update all in this list if new ver. avail.

Qoph · #3 (**permalink**) 13-Jul-2009, 15:59

Not in this version. Here is what it looks like:

So yes, I can disable other repositories, but it doesn't allow me to just update. I have to go through each and every package and see if it is able to be updated. The package manager in 11.1 is far easier in most regards.

Qoph · #4 (**permalink**) 13-Jul-2009, 21:08

All right, so I got it down to three updates. I clicked 'Details' in the updater prompt box. Then it showed me which packages were waiting to be updated, and asked me what to do when it found dependency errors.

I skipped the ones that had errors and the rest updated. The ones that had issues were Pidgin, Finch, and libpurple. I don't know what they need. The software manager in openSUSE 11.1 is very clear about these things, but this one doesn't give me any info as to why it's not updating.

P.S. Still having the other issues mentioned.

caf4926 · #5 (**permalink**) 13-Jul-2009, 21:09

Crumbs I can't remember it looking like that.

It is sometimes better to quit the updater, ask it not to start at boot, then reboot, then:
Have you tried a su terminal and doing

Code:

zypper ref

then

Code:

zypper up

Qoph · #6 (**permalink**) 14-Jul-2009, 00:16

It says basically the same thing as the YaST software manager:

Quote:

4 Problems:
Problem: No valid solution found with just resolvables of best architecture.
Problem: pidgin cannot be installed due to missing dependencies
Problem: atom:libpurple cannot be installed due to missing dependencies
Problem: atom:libpurple cannot be installed due to missing dependencies

I'm thinking there are some packages which need to be updated to versions which aren't provided in the 10.3 repository. In order to get the listed packages to install. Would it be safe to add the 11.1 repositories or would that totally screw up my system? I want some of the things updated, but not all of them. Because I like some things about 10.3. :-P Such as that it does not have Pulse Audio. Or the display manager as I mentioned earlier.

caf4926 · #7 (**permalink**) 14-Jul-2009, 02:09

I wish someone with 10.3 would answer in this. I know you are out there!

What do you get from a terminal with

Code:

zypper lr

#8 (**permalink**) 14-Jul-2009, 02:25

Qoph wrote:

> I just installed openSUSE 10.3 because the DVD for 11.1 wasn't booting.

openSUSE 10.3 will be outdated (no longer supported) on November 2009, when
openSUSE 11.2 becomes available.

> Actually, my ultimate goal is to install Slackware, but that's also on a
> DVD and won't boot. However, while I have 10.3, I would like to update
> it a bit.
>
> The update manager says that I have 276 mandatory updates, but when I
> tell it to update, it takes about a minute and then says to restart.
> Which does nothing, as I have the same amount of updates afterward. I
> manually updated a few programs such as Firefox, and that brought the
> total mandatory updates down to the aforementioned number. It was
> originally at 280.

This is a normal behavior. There are some core components (such libzypp,
zypper and yast modules) that need to be updated first. Then, you can go on
with the rest of the package updates.

> This has an older YaST2 as well, which doesn't have the update category
> that allows viewing of all possible updates and to choose what to update
> and what not to. Can I update YaST2 to the latest version on 10.3? I
> don't want YaST to stop working completely.

Well, you can "right click" on the list of packages and select "update if a
newer version is available". I used to do that way for updating the whole
kde environment.

Remember that openSUSE 10.3 does not support by default "lzma" compression
so you cannot install any package "designed" for openSUSE 11.0 or openSUSE
11.1.

> I like some things in 10.3 better than 11.1 (which I have on a
> desktop). Such as the GDM. In 10.3, it makes you type in your user name;
> in 11.1, you click on your user name. I've been trying in vain to figure
> out a way to make it behave as in 10.3 for my 11.1 desktop.

Dunno, but gnome repo is only available for 11.1 so no chance you can update
gnome to 2.26, at least using OBS :-(

Greetings,

--
Camaleón

Qoph · #9 (**permalink**) 14-Jul-2009, 03:06

>zypper lr

Quote:

# | Enabled | Refresh | Type | Alias | Name
--+---------+---------+--------+------------------------------+-----------------------------
1 | Yes | Yes | rpm-md | openSUSE_10.3_Java | openSUSE_10.3 Java
2 | No | Yes | yast2 | openSUSE-10.3-OSS-Gnome 10.3 | openSUSE-10.3-OSS-Gnome 10.3
3 | Yes | Yes | rpm-md | 10.3_1 | 10.3 Update
4 | Yes | Yes | rpm-md | openSUSE_10.3_1 | openSUSE_10.3 Mozilla
5 | Yes | Yes | rpm-md | 10.3 | 10.3 VLC
6 | Yes | Yes | rpm-md | openSUSE_10.3_OpenOffice.org | openSUSE_10.3 OpenOffice.org

The one not enabled is the CD.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Camaleón

This is a normal behavior. There are some core components (such libzypp, zypper and yast modules) that need to be updated first. Then, you can go on with the rest of the package updates.

Well no, it never "went on" with anything. It told me to restart and then it refreshed the list of updates and it would have the same number of updates as before. I figured out that it was because a few of the packages weren't installing due to dependency issues. So just those ones need to be updated now.

#10 (**permalink**) 14-Jul-2009, 03:24

Qoph wrote:

>>zypper lr
>
>> # | Enabled | Refresh | Type | Alias | Name
>>
>> --+---------+---------+--------+------------------------------+-----------------------------
>> 1 | Yes | Yes | rpm-md | openSUSE_10.3_Java |
>> openSUSE_10.3 Java
>> 2 | No | Yes | yast2 | openSUSE-10.3-OSS-Gnome 10.3 |
>> openSUSE-10.3-OSS-Gnome 10.3
>> 3 | Yes | Yes | rpm-md | 10.3_1 | 10.3
>> Update
>> 4 | Yes | Yes | rpm-md | openSUSE_10.3_1 |
>> openSUSE_10.3 Mozilla
>> 5 | Yes | Yes | rpm-md | 10.3 | 10.3
>> VLC
>> 6 | Yes | Yes | rpm-md | openSUSE_10.3_OpenOffice.org |
>> openSUSE_10.3 OpenOffice.org
>
> The one not enabled is the CD.

CD repo should be disabled. And what problems are you getting now? What are
you trying to install and what dependency errors come up?

> Camaleón;2012069 Wrote:
>>
>> This is a normal behavior. There are some core components (such
>> libzypp, zypper and yast modules) that need to be updated first. Then,
>> you can go on with the rest of the package updates.
>>
>
> Well no, it never "went on" with anything. It told me to restart and
> then it refreshed the list of updates and it would have the same number
> of updates as before. I figured out that it was because a few of the
> packages weren't installing due to dependency issues. So just those ones
> need to be updated now.

Nothing you should worry about :-)

Note: you cannot add opensuse 11.0 nor 11.1 repos, you have to stay with
opensuse 10.3 repos or compile the packages your self ;-)

Greetings,

--
Camaleón

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