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Old 30-Jun-2008, 13:21
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Having finally lost it with Bill Gates, I've reconciled myself to Linux and chosen SUSE. Actually, I have no problem with that at all.

However, in order to get Linux - SUSE included - I need Bill Gates. Anyone else see the irony in that? It gets worse. The SUSE torrent download has crashed 3 times and the FTP twice so far. Both in the 90%s. Three days and most of my hair have disappeared.

My question is simple. If not Wise5 or Azureus Vuze, is there a viable alternative to get the DVD ISO downloaded? A reliable mirror perhaps?

And B4 you all start with geeky humour, there's sanity at stake here so be gentle.
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Old 30-Jun-2008, 13:27
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Cast your burdens onto Jesus..

there are de-centralised mirrors where you can download the DVD

Software.openSUSE.org will take you there..

but the page is trying to be funny and asks " get it"
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Old 30-Jun-2008, 13:34
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Default Re: Irony, frustration and despair

* AngstRidden,

I didn't have problems with neither the torrent nor FTP. Is your internet connection acting up?
You could try http, though it will probably also fail when your connection is flakey.

- If you want to try torrent, make sure it is the torrent from software.opensuse.org
- If you use HTTP or FTP, choose a reliable mirror close to you, and use a download manager

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Old 30-Jun-2008, 13:35
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That's really strange. Torrents are meant to lose their connection and
reconnect. I used Azureus/Vuze to pull down the x86_64 DVD ISO a week
or two ago and it was great (laptop so it was gaining/losing connection
the entire time as I moved around). I'm assuming you're familiar with
torrents enough to know that is okay but, if not, it's okay. You can
also, I believe, use a torrent to fix/complete a download from somewhere
else if needed though it takes a little twiddling.

How do you need microsoft to download Linux? You could buy the DVD, or
find a Linux enthusiast willing to burn you a copy. You can also buy
computers w/Linux pre-installed. If you're in the area of the Novell
campus let me know and I'll burn you one.

Good luck.





AngstRidden wrote:
| Having finally lost it with Bill Gates, I've reconciled myself to Linux
| and chosen SUSE. Actually, I have no problem with that at all.
|
| However, in order to get Linux - SUSE included - I need Bill Gates.
| Anyone else see the irony in that? It gets worse. The SUSE torrent
| download has crashed 3 times and the FTP twice so far. Both in the
| 90%s. Three days and most of my hair have disappeared.
|
| My question is simple. If not Wise5 or Azureus Vuze, is there a viable
| alternative to get the DVD ISO downloaded? A reliable mirror perhaps?
|
| And B4 you all start with geeky humour, there's sanity at stake here so
| be gentle.
|
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Old 30-Jun-2008, 13:38
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AngstRidden wrote:
> Having finally lost it with Bill Gates, I've reconciled myself to Linux
> and chosen SUSE. Actually, I have no problem with that at all.
>
> However, in order to get Linux - SUSE included - I need Bill Gates.
> Anyone else see the irony in that? It gets worse. The SUSE torrent
> download has crashed 3 times and the FTP twice so far. Both in the
> 90%s. Three days and most of my hair have disappeared.
>
> My question is simple. If not Wise5 or Azureus Vuze, is there a viable
> alternative to get the DVD ISO downloaded? A reliable mirror perhaps?
>
> And B4 you all start with geeky humour, there's sanity at stake here so
> be gentle.
>
>

Are you downloading to an NTFS partition or FAT32? Also, how are you
downloading through ftp, browser? If so, IE has issues with files over a
certain size.
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Old 30-Jun-2008, 14:30
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I have a 120gb "D:/" drive... newly formatted as FAT. It has nothing on it but a smile. Having played with Ubuntu (but not got to where I wanted to be) I chose SUSE instead. So I know:

a) I can download - http and ftp
b) I can boot from both HDDs with Linux and/or Windows
c) Vuze has never let me down
d) Wise has never let me down

I'm grateful for the alternative server idea but, before I start downloading again, should I reformat as ntfs?
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Old 30-Jun-2008, 14:37
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NTFS? why bother...

just get it, burn it, use it..
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AngstRidden wrote:
> I have a 120gb "D:/" drive... newly formatted as FAT. It has nothing
> on it but a smile. Having played with Ubuntu (but not got to where I
> wanted to be) I chose SUSE instead. So I know:
>
> a) I can download - http and ftp
> b) I can boot from both HDDs with Linux and/or Windows
> c) Vuze has never let me down
> d) Wise has never let me down
>
> I'm grateful for the alternative server idea but, before I start
> downloading again, should I reformat as ntfs?
>
>

I believe that is your problem. Fat32 has a 4GB size limit and the DVD
is over that. You will need to upgrade/reformat to ntfs and you
shouldn't have an issue.
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dspolleke wrote:
> NTFS? why bother...
>
> just get it, burn it, use it..
>
>

Because you can't get it when Fat32 has a file size of 4GB's. Hence the
need to go ntfs to fully download the file.
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Default Re: Irony, frustration and despair

Quote:
Originally Posted by AngstRidden View Post
I have a 120gb "D:/" drive... newly formatted as FAT . . . I'm grateful for the alternative server idea but, before I start downloading again, should I reformat as ntfs?
Your downloads are going to fail. FAT32 does not support a file size >4GB, and the .iso is larger than that. So if you are going to download from within Windows, regardless of method, your only choice is NTFS.

Hang in. Everyone new to Linux gets angst (and many of us old farts still do, too). But it is definitely worth it . . .
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