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Old 23-Dec-2008, 04:18
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Default All 11.1 users: Please fill in HCL for openSUSE-11.1

For all openSUSE users who are now running openSUSE-11.1.

Please fill in the openSUSE-11.1 Hardware Compatibility List (HCL) listing your success/failures with 11.1 with different hardware. Please be very brief (this is not the place for rants).

The URL for the wiki is here:
Hardware - openSUSE

Editing a wiki is not everyone's "cup of tea" and for anyone who has hardware information they think should be in the opensuse HCL wiki, but they hate (or can not) work their way through the obscure wiki format, please just send me a PM with ALL the salient hardware details. I'll fill in the wiki for you and then ask you to review it.

Many thanks for your contributions.
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I already added all hardware in my possesion and while doing so I noticed a couple of things and felt a remark should be made.
  1. There is a link to suselinuxhcl.org which by the looks of it isn't being used much... but I like the idea if it could be incorporated into the current username/password system and find a place on openSUSE itself.
    At the moment I mainly don't like it and don't use it, because it's not in Novells 'care' (and thus unreliable as with what is done with the data), full of adds and not green enough.
    There is a link on the right offering the script for sale... so don't know how much influence you have as a "Moderator" but I thought this would be as good a time as any to discuss it.
    (I'm up for devoting some time to writing (or assisting in writing) something similar myself if it's done in PHP)
  2. Some sections have become unwieldy HCL/Monitors - openSUSE is one big clump of LCD monitors which is hard to edit.. I'd split it up myself if I could figure out how to make templates as is done for the laptops (see laptops )
  3. There is no unity between the sections what so ever, some use tables, some don't. Some pages actually show which version is causing problems with the hardware.. others don't (There is just a bunch of versionnumbers next to eachother not informing you to which version the the special steps are required(if any)..
  4. The ===heading=== markup doesn't work when surrounded by table tags? (Though I'm fairly certain it can be worked around with by use of regular <h#> tags

Guess my biggest problem with it overall is that isn't userfriendly enough doing it via the wiki and it allows for too many differences between sections.
So in my perfect little world it should be replaced by software that has a list of all possible hardware (or a lot of it anyways) and users can just simply search for their hardware. If the hardware is present in the database but didn't have any information filled in about actually working or not and the user is willing to do so it should be as simple as marking the checkboxes with the suse versions it works on. Filling in (or not filling in) a "remark" field that may contain instructions on how to get it working.. should be as easy to use as this forum for markup.

Okay I'm done with my rant
Now as for a request, if your wiki skills are superior to mine could you add a template table header for ATI video cards similiar to {LaptopTable} found at HCL/Laptops/Other - openSUSE ? (The laptops section is the only one in which I think a wiki might work for this purpose.. but the page gets ridiculously long)
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Now as for a request, if your wiki skills are superior to mine could you add a template table header for ATI video cards similiar to {LaptopTable} found at HCL/Laptops/Other - openSUSE ? (The laptops section is the only one in which I think a wiki might work for this purpose.. but the page gets ridiculously long)
Hmmm.. that sort of formatting is not my forte. I could probably stumble my way thru it, but it is not something I would relish doing.

I'm willing to contribute by adding the hardware specs (and brief success notes) of individuals to various HCL sections ... but when it comes to reformatting a complete section, I'll leave that up to the users who are keen to see different formats.
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oldcpu wrote:

><snip>
> For all openSUSE users who are now running openSUSE-11.1.
>
> Please fill in the openSUSE-11.1 Hardware Compatibility List (HCL)
> listing your success/failures with 11.1 with different hardware. Please
> be very brief (this is not the place for rants).
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> The URL for the wiki is here:
> 'Hardware - openSUSE' (http://en.opensuse.org/OpenSUSE_HCL)

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I just updated the Micron Desktop section. I also have a new custom built Intel DX48BT2 based system. Do I need to enter each component or can I create a new Intel category (Desktop) for the system? It is running openSUSE 11.0 64bit, the 11.1 live Cd installed and in the next day or two i will install 11.1.

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I just updated the Micron Desktop section. I also have a new custom built Intel DX48BT2 based system. Do I need to enter each component or can I create a new Intel category (Desktop) for the system? It is running openSUSE 11.0 64bit, the 11.1 live Cd installed and in the next day or two i will install 11.1.
By "custom built" do you mean you built your own? In that case, I think your motherboard would go under main boards:
HCL/Main Boards - openSUSE

But if you purchased a Desktop assembled/built by Intel, then I think it would go under "other": HCL/Desktops/Other - openSUSE
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I added the HP Compaq 6715s in the laptop section. As oldcpu suggested, it wasn't my cup of tea or coffee or anything else I may drink. I cant figure out why the 1) for video is under the green tick, but the 2) for wireless is next to it.
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Axeia wrote:
> I already added all hardware in my possesion and while doing so I
> noticed a couple of things and felt a remark should be made.
>
>
> - There is a link to 'suselinuxhcl.org'
> (http://www.suselinuxhcl.org/) which by the looks of it isn't being
> used much... but I like the idea if it could be incorporated into the
> current username/password system and find a place on openSUSE itself.
> At the moment I mainly don't like it and don't use it, because it's
> not in Novells 'care' (and thus unreliable as with what is done with
> the data), full of adds and not green enough.
> There is a link on the right offering the script for sale... so don't
> know how much influence you have as a "Moderator" but I thought this
> would be as good a time as any to discuss it.
>
>

I never knew about this one but it made me laugh, what with the name and
all you would think it would be about suse/opensuse, not those and
Ubuntu, mepis, slackware, centos, etc.
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Default Re: All 11.1 users: Please fill in HCL for openSUSE-11.1

All up to date now.

FYI.
On another note. I tried everything to destroy my ThinkVantage blue button function. Referred to in another post as an issue with Lenovo on 11.1
It's still working, so maybe it's only an issue with certain models?
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I added my laptop (HP Compaq 6715s), but I am not sure if this was such a good idea as there is already one entry for the 6715b. I googled for the 6715b to get technical data. Both laptops seem to be almost the same.

Now the question. Would it have been better to edit the existing entry just adding the s and the fact that 11.0 and 11.1 64 bit both work.
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I added my laptop (HP Compaq 6715s), but I am not sure if this was such a good idea as there is already one entry for the 6715b. I googled for the 6715b to get technical data. Both laptops seem to be almost the same.

Now the question. Would it have been better to edit the existing entry just adding the s and the fact that 11.0 and 11.1 64 bit both work.
I don't know the difference between the two. You could put " 6715b / 6715s " in the model column and combine the two, or " just leave as is ". If it were me, after having already made the entry, I would "leave as is".

Thank you for your contribution (of your laptop functionality).
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