no sound on new Suse 11.1 ?

**oldcpu** · 23-Dec-2008, 00:00

Originally Posted by oldcpu

check your mixer. Use the sound test I recommended.ugh the above 3 different /etc/modprobe.d/sound files, to see if one works.

When testing your mixer, move the volume levels up to 95% or so. That will possibly cause distortion, but at this time we are not looking for optimal sound. We are looking for basic sound. After you get sound functioning you can back off the volume levels to a more optimal setting.

**jjenkins2000** · 26-Dec-2008, 13:48

I can't seem to get the sound to work.
Any help wold be appreciated.
HP MINI 1000 running suse 11.1.
Thanks.
Jim

Your ALSA information is located at http://www.alsa-project.org/db/?f=07...d773ebe45755a8

Please inform the person helping you.

linux-k4kq:~ #
linux-k4kq:~ # cat /etc/modprobe.d/sound

options snd-hda-intel single_cmd=1
options snd slots=snd-hda-intel
# u1Nb.MjZApDJ7QzC:82801G (ICH7 Family) High Definition Audio Controller
alias snd-card-0 snd-hda-intel
linux-k4kq:~ # uname -a
Linux linux-k4kq 2.6.27.7-9-default #1 SMP 2008-12-04 18:10:04 +0100 i686 i686 i386 GNU/Linux
linux-k4kq:~ # rpm -qa |grep alsa
alsa-utils-1.0.18-6.4
alsa-tools-1.0.18-1.13
alsa-firmware-1.0.17-1.42
alsa-oss-1.0.17-1.37
alsa-plugins-1.0.18-6.12
alsa-1.0.18-8.7
linux-k4kq:~ # rpm -qa |grep pulse
pulseaudio-module-zeroconf-0.9.12-9.6
libpulsecore4-0.9.12-9.6
pulseaudio-utils-0.9.12-9.6
pulseaudio-module-jack-0.9.12-9.6
libpulse0-0.9.12-9.6
libpulse-mainloop-glib0-0.9.12-9.6
pulseaudio-module-lirc-0.9.12-9.6
pulseaudio-0.9.12-9.6
pulseaudio-module-bluetooth-0.9.12-9.6
libpulse-browse0-0.9.12-9.6
pulseaudio-esound-compat-0.9.12-9.6
libxine1-pulse-1.1.15-20.8
pulseaudio-module-x11-0.9.12-9.6
linux-k4kq:~ # rpm -q libasound2
libasound2-1.0.18-8.7
linux-k4kq:~ #

**oldcpu** · 26-Dec-2008, 15:33

Originally Posted by jjenkins2000

I can't seem to get the sound to work.
Any help wold be appreciated.
HP MINI 1000 running suse 11.1. ....Your ALSA information is located at http://www.alsa-project.org/db/?f=07...d773ebe45755a8

Hi Jim, ... this is a tough one to sort out. I did a search for this and came up with a few hints, but not much. Overall, I can not find much in the way of support (under the alsa driver) for the IDT 92HD75B2X5 hardware audio codec that comes with your HP mini 1000.

I did note this in your /etc/modprobe.d/sound file:

Originally Posted by jjenkins2000

linux-k4kq:~ # cat /etc/modprobe.d/sound

options snd-hda-intel single_cmd=1
options snd slots=snd-hda-intel
# u1Nb.MjZApDJ7QzC:82801G (ICH7 Family) High Definition Audio Controller
alias snd-card-0 snd-hda-intel

Could you point out your reference/reason for using "single_cmd=1" ?

I do note that some Ubuntu users of the HP min 1000 managed to get sound to work by doing a modification to their alsa-base file (which is similar conceptually, albeit coded with a different philosophy, to the openSUSE /etc/modprobe.d/sound file). How about trying the Ubuntu approach. To do that, please change your /etc/modprobe.d/sound file to the following:

options snd-hda-intel model=ref
options snd slots=snd-hda-intel
# u1Nb.MjZApDJ7QzC:82801G (ICH7 Family) High Definition Audio Controller
alias snd-card-0 snd-hda-intel

then restart your PC and test your sound. Ensure in your mixer that PCM, Master, and Front volume are up to about 95%. Once you get sound, you should then back them off to lower levels to avoid distortion.

Ubuntu references:

The sound test that I recommend you use is this (copy and paste it into a gnome terminal or a kde konsole):

speaker-test -c2 -l5 -twav

you should hear a ladies voice say 'Front left', 'Front right' five times.

Good luck.

**jjenkins2000** · 27-Dec-2008, 22:01

Thanks for your help.
made changes....no sound., and lost PCM.

Changed back. I noticed I can't un-mute master PCM in Kmix.

i'll keep playing with it.

**oldcpu** · 27-Dec-2008, 23:46

Originally Posted by jjenkins2000

made changes....no sound., and lost PCM.

Changed back. I noticed I can't un-mute master PCM in Kmix.

OK, ... I have another suggestion. I note your laptop has a IDT 92HD75B2X5 hardware audio codec, which is pretty new. You could try updating to the very latest, cutting edge version of alsa.

openSUSE-11.1 does not quite have the latest alsa version, although it is a fairly new version. To install the very latest alsa version, send (copy and paste) the following six zypper commands in sequence in a konsole or gnome terminal with root permissions (ie type 'su' and enter root password) with your PC connected to the internet:

Code:

zypper ar http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/multimedia:/audio/openSUSE_11.1/ multimedia

Code:

zypper install alsa alsa-utils alsa-tools alsa-plugins alsa-firmware libasound2

Code:

zypper rr multimedia

Code:

zypper ar http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/multimedia:/audio:/KMP/openSUSE_11.1/ multimedia

Code:

zypper install alsa-driver-kmp-default

Code:

zypper rr multimedia

and then reboot your PC and test your sound. Try that with, and with out, the update to the /etc/modprobe.d/sound file.

My reference for the above updating commands is here:
Alsa-update - openSUSE

Good luck.

Graham P Davis · 28-Dec-2008, 08:04

jjenkins2000 wrote:

>
> Thanks for your help.
> made changes....no sound., and lost PCM.
>
> Changed back. I noticed I can't un-mute master PCM in Kmix.
>
> i'll keep playing with it.
>
>

I had no sound and then dumped the 64-bit installation and replaced it with 32-bit. Still quite a few problems but at least I have sound.

To un-mute the master, I found I first had to set a master by right-clicking the icon and choosing "select master channel" - not that this had any effect on the sound but it made the icon show the volume on hover instead of 0%.

--
Graham P Davis, Bracknell, Berks., UK. E-mail: newsman not newsboy

**ziovanja** · 28-Dec-2008, 18:25

Dear oldcpu,

I just want to let you know that I found out how to make sound work on my laptop, in the end! Just a few simple steps:

Go to Yast > Hardware > Sound
Disable Pulse support (!!!)
Use the settings you provided (see below) for /etc/modprobe.d/sound
Access Kmix and switch off Analog Loopback (both channels)
Restart sound (rcalsasound restart)

Here are the settings for /etc/modprobe.d/sound:

Code:

options snd-hda-intel model=dell-m4-1 enable_msi=1
options snd slots=snd-hda-intel,snd-hda-intel
# 5Dex.DVex+nmP8+5:SBx00 Azalia (Intel HDA)
alias snd-card-0 snd-hda-intel
# NXNs.HS4OKn_IlZ0:RV620 Audio device [Radeon HD 34xx Series]
alias snd-card-1 snd-hda-intel

Everything seems to work OK, and that's pretty enough for me, after days (and nights...!) of struggling... But I must be honest, there are lots of other minor bugs that make me think OpenSUSE 11.1 was not mature enough to be released yet, not at all. Nevertheless I'll go on preferring OpenSUSE for desktop and productivity, other linux distro for servers.

Oldcpu, THANK YOU for the precious help you gave me!!! I wish you a very happy new year

ZioVanja

**jjenkins2000** · 28-Dec-2008, 18:49

oldcpu,
I was able to update....
but no sound.... I agree this is new hardware and I'll have to wait until ALSA supports this hardware.
Thanks Jim

PS: What is this.
Git statistics for Linus' kernel tree

ALSA: hda: Add support for 92HD73xxx codecs

@@ -4298,10 +4320,11 @@ struct hda_codec_preset snd_hda_preset_sigmatel[] = {
{ .id = 0x838476a5, .name = "STAC9255D", .patch = patch_stac9205 },
{ .id = 0x838476a6, .name = "STAC9254", .patch = patch_stac9205 },
{ .id = 0x838476a7, .name = "STAC9254D", .patch = patch_stac9205 },
+ { .id = 0x111d7603, .name = "92HD75B3X5", .patch = patch_stac92hd71bxx},
+ { .id = 0x111d7608, .name = "92HD75B2X5", .patch = patch_stac92hd71bxx},

REF ----upgrade installation......

Password:
linux-k4kq:~ # zypper ar Index of /repositories/multimedia:/audio/openSUSE_11.1 multimedia
Adding repository 'multimedia' [done]
Repository 'multimedia' successfully added
Enabled: Yes
Autorefresh: No
URI: Index of /repositories/multimedia:/audio/openSUSE_11.1

linux-k4kq:~ # zypper install alsa alsa-utils alsa-tools alsa-plugins alsa-firmware libasound2
Retrieving repository 'Packman Repository' metadata [done]
Building repository 'Packman Repository' cache [done]
New repository or package signing key received:
Key ID: F54EB54C20F035D8
Key Name: multimedia:audio OBS Project <multimedia:audio@build.opensuse.org>
Key Fingerprint: F293D117CA0C96D2BFF429B1F54EB54C20F035D8
Repository: multimedia

Do you want to reject the key, trust temporarily, or trust always? [R/t/a/?]: a
Building repository 'multimedia' cache [done]
Loading repository data...
Reading installed packages...
Resolving package dependencies...

The following packages are going to be upgraded:
alsa alsa-firmware alsa-plugins alsa-tools alsa-utils libasound2

The following packages are going to change vendor:
alsa alsa-firmware alsa-plugins alsa-tools alsa-utils libasound2

Overall download size: 4.9 M. After the operation, additional 1.3 M will be used.
Continue? [YES/no]: y
Retrieving package alsa-firmware-1.0.17.git20081202-2.3.noarch (1/6), 2.3 M (8.5 M unpacked)
Retrieving: alsa-firmware-1.0.17.git20081202-2.3.noarch.rpm [done (107.3 K/s)]
Installing: alsa-firmware-1.0.17.git20081202-2.3 [done]
Retrieving package libasound2-1.0.18.git20081212-1.1.i586 (2/6), 343.0 K (1.2 M unpacked)
Retrieving: libasound2-1.0.18.git20081212-1.1.i586.rpm [done (69.9 K/s)]
Installing: libasound2-1.0.18.git20081212-1.1 [done]
Retrieving package alsa-plugins-1.0.18.git20081122-1.10.i586 (3/6), 45.0 K (119.0 K unpacked)
Retrieving: alsa-plugins-1.0.18.git20081122-1.10.i586.rpm [done]
Installing: alsa-plugins-1.0.18.git20081122-1.10 [done]
Retrieving package alsa-utils-1.0.18.git20081122-1.7.i586 (4/6), 965.0 K (1.7 M unpacked)
Retrieving: alsa-utils-1.0.18.git20081122-1.7.i586.rpm [done (107.9 K/s)]
Installing: alsa-utils-1.0.18.git20081122-1.7 [done]
Retrieving package alsa-tools-1.0.18.git20081201-1.5.i586 (5/6), 171.0 K (554.0 K unpacked)
Retrieving: alsa-tools-1.0.18.git20081201-1.5.i586.rpm [done (54.0 K/s)]
Installing: alsa-tools-1.0.18.git20081201-1.5 [done]
Retrieving package alsa-1.0.18.git20081212-1.1.i586 (6/6), 1.1 M (1.4 M unpacked)
Retrieving: alsa-1.0.18.git20081212-1.1.i586.rpm [done (104.0 K/s)]
Installing: alsa-1.0.18.git20081212-1.1 [done]
linux-k4kq:~ # zypper rr multimedia
Removing repository 'multimedia' [done]
Repository 'multimedia' has been removed.
linux-k4kq:~ # zypper ar Index of /repositories/multimedia:/audio:/KMP/openSUSE_11.1 multimedia
Adding repository 'multimedia' [done]
Repository 'multimedia' successfully added
Enabled: Yes
Autorefresh: No
URI: Index of /repositories/multimedia:/audio:/KMP/openSUSE_11.1

linux-k4kq:~ # zypper install alsa-driver-kmp-default
Building repository 'multimedia' cache [done]
Loading repository data...
Reading installed packages...
Resolving package dependencies...

The following NEW package is going to be installed:
alsa-driver-kmp-default

Overall download size: 1.5 M. After the operation, additional 5.5 M will be used.
Continue? [YES/no]: y
Retrieving package alsa-driver-kmp-default-1.0.18.20081228_2.6.27.7_9.1-2.1.i586 (1/1), 1.5 M (5.5 M unpacked)
Retrieving: alsa-driver-kmp-default-1.0.18.20081228_2.6.27.7_9.1-2.1.i586.rpm [done (108.5 K/s)]
Installing: alsa-driver-kmp-default-1.0.18.20081228_2.6.27.7_9.1-2.1 [done]
linux-k4kq:~ # zypper rr multimedia
Removing repository 'multimedia' [done]
Repository 'multimedia' has been removed.
linux-k4kq:~ #

**oldcpu** · 28-Dec-2008, 23:31

Originally Posted by ziovanja

I just want to let you know that I found out how to make sound work on my laptop, in the end! Just a few simple steps:

Go to Yast > Hardware > Sound
Disable Pulse support (!!!)
Use the settings you provided (see below) for /etc/modprobe.d/sound
Access Kmix and switch off Analog Loopback (both channels)
Restart sound (rcalsasound restart)

Here are the settings for /etc/modprobe.d/sound:

Code:

options snd-hda-intel model=dell-m4-1 enable_msi=1
options snd slots=snd-hda-intel,snd-hda-intel
# 5Dex.DVex+nmP8+5:SBx00 Azalia (Intel HDA)
alias snd-card-0 snd-hda-intel
# NXNs.HS4OKn_IlZ0:RV620 Audio device [Radeon HD 34xx Series]
alias snd-card-1 snd-hda-intel

Congratulations! Thankyou for sharing your solution.

Originally Posted by ziovanja

I must be honest, there are lots of other minor bugs that make me think OpenSUSE 11.1 was not mature enough to be released yet, not at all. Nevertheless I'll go on preferring OpenSUSE for desktop and productivity, other linux distro for servers.

I understand the sentiment, but honestly, given your PC's hardware, I do not think sound will work under any other openSUSE version. It needs both the new kernel and the cutting edge alsa for the sound to work.

New releases alway tend to be a bit buggy (I can not remember one that was not) and it takes a couple of months for them to be ironed out.

Oldcpu, THANK YOU for the precious help you gave me!!! I wish you a very happy new year

ZioVanja[/QUOTE]

**oldcpu** · 28-Dec-2008, 23:47

Originally Posted by jjenkins2000

I was able to update....
but no sound.... I agree this is new hardware and I'll have to wait until ALSA supports this hardware.

jjenkins, you need to reboot to test your sound. Its also possible you need to make an edit to the /etc/modprobe.d./sound file.

I am getting very frustrated with this entire thread. Too many users put their sound in the one thread, and to solve problems with this relatively cutting edge hardware takes iterations, ... which means I have to hunt back and forth, and try to see which each person has done in the past ... Everyone thinks their problem is the same, and its NOT ! Everyone's problem IS different which means different data, and different research and different answers ...

It takes me a fair amount of effort to research and try to give good answers, and multiple users asking for help in a thread REALLY complicates my life. I know eventually I will confuse users and make a mistake (or multiple mistakes). On more than one occasion I've been tempted to ignore users who make multiple posts in a thread, ... anyway ... < rant OFF > . ...

Anyway, I managed to hunt back in the thread, and confirm your PC has a Codec: IDT 92HD75B2X5 and then re-read my previous research. I note it is not covered by the ALSA-Configuration.txt file

Did you change your /etc/modprobe.d/sound file to:

Code:

options snd-hda-intel model=ref
options snd slots=snd-hda-intel
# u1Nb.MjZApDJ7QzC:82801G (ICH7 Family) High Definition Audio Controller
alias snd-card-0 snd-hda-intel

and then restart your PC? Check your mixer !

If you can not get sound, then after doing the above, please post the output URL (with your PC connected to the internet) provided by :

/usr/sbin/alsa-info.sh

do NOT post all the info , here. Just the URL. This thread is incredibly hard for me to follow with input, where EVERYONE's hardware is different.

Also, please run the following as a quality check, and post here the output:

rpm -qa | grep alsa
rpm -qa | grep pulse
rpm -q padevchooser pavucontrol pavumeter paman paprefs
rpm -q libasound2
uname -a
cat /etc/modprobe.d/sound

... and finally, can you please refresh my memory - are you using KDE3 or KDE4 or Gnome ?

Thanks! Apologies for the grumpiness. I have to dash to work now before I am late.