How many run openSUSE Gnome?

[GofBorg]

Uggh...someone needs to throw some water on the GNOME love fest going on in
here. I take it, most of you are Ubuntu converts?

GNOME is a blight upon the earth.

<INCOMING!><g,d&r>

[hendersj]

On Thu, 05 Nov 2009 23:32:29 +0000, GofBorg wrote:

> Uggh...someone needs to throw some water on the GNOME love fest going on
> in here. I take it, most of you are Ubuntu converts?

Nope, actually a RH convert here. I was too cheap to pay for RHN, so got
my updates via Ximian Red Carpet, and in the course of using that, I
started using GNOME.

Before GNOME, I used Enlightenment DR16, which I actually preferred over
GNOME; but I got tired of waiting for DR17 to come out.

I've tried KDE a few times, but I've found GNOME to be cleaner and
simpler; I can customize it to the extent that I need, and it doesn't
feel cluttered to me (as KDE does). That said, I prefer K3B for burning
CDs/DVDs, and Quanta+ for web page editing, so I do not limit myself to
GNOME apps, but use a mix of both.

Jim
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[malcolmlewis]

Originally Posted by GofBorg

Uggh...someone needs to throw some water on the GNOME
love fest going on in here. I take it, most of you are Ubuntu converts?

GNOME is a blight upon the earth.

<INCOMING!><g,d&r>

Mandrake KDE and Solaris CDE

I've used Ubuntu sparc server though on my Ultra10, it's back to
running Solaris/Gnome.....

I also installed on the ASUS the netbook remix one for a short time,
will give KDE4 another whirl with 11.2 GM.

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[GofBorg]

> I also installed on the ASUS the netbook remix one for a short time,
> will give KDE4 another whirl with 11.2 GM.

I would anticipate KDE4 on a netbook to be a poor experience, but depends
on what you expect out of it.

[malcolmlewis]

Originally Posted by GofBorg

> I also installed on the ASUS the netbook remix one for
a short time,
> will give KDE4 another whirl with 11.2 GM.

I would anticipate KDE4 on a netbook to be a poor experience, but
depends on what you expect out of it.

Hi
I have a N280 with 2GB of RAM, HT CPU and faster FSB. I've had KDE4 on
it already, kwin worked fine, video playback etc. But really need to
spend sometime in a VM to get up to speed.

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[BrownieCat]

KDE has an extremely modern-looking interface that simply throws Aero out of the water. But GNOME has plenty of pros as well. I'm writing this reply right now while logged into GNOME, and it's just a bit faster to get work done in GNOME than in KDE. Programs more easily accessible, just fire up a menu and choose Firefox (it's right in front of you) and you're set to go. In KDE, either set a desktop icon or go to the application launcher, type Firefox and choose the option in the menu for the fastest KDE way.
I've preferred KDE ever since I began using it, but honestly, it's mostly because of all the eye candy included by default that I like it. Most of the applications included in KDE I never even use. GNOME can do for me what KDE does, both are good desktop environments.

[gminnerup]

Originally Posted by GofBorg

> I would anticipate KDE4 on a netbook to be a poor experience, but depends
on what you expect out of it.

Not at all. I have 11.2 RC2 with KDE 4.3 on an Eeepc 900 (using a Celeron, the last pre-Atom model) and it zips along nicely, certainly no discernible difference from the Ubuntu Hardy previously running on it. And that's with Kwin effects including the cube, and heavily themed (Glassified etc). I would argue that KDE4 is better suited to netbooks with their small screens (mine's a nine-inch at 1024x600 resolution) because Plasma offers more effective desktop layouts than Gnome (Folderviews, Activities).

[colao]

Using kde now.

[GofBorg]

> Not at all.

Well that's good to hear. I have just heard of many
Netbook users being displeased with performance of them
regardless of the OS installed. As I said I think it is
expectation of the user. Having never tried KDE4 on a netbook,
I was just basing it on 1) The apparent anemic hardware present
in netbooks. 2) User feedback on netbooks

I have to think there must be something to the claims or why
would we be seeing projects like Moblin etc...

I have 11.1/KDE4 installed on a Duron 1Ghz laptop and it runs pretty well,
no effects enabled. Boot time is not impressive.

[gminnerup]

Boot time is just under a minute which isn't sensational but liveable with. I can see the point of Moblin, Ubuntu Remix, and other custom netbook projects in that a traditional desktop is not best suited to the small screens and fiddly keyboard/mousepad. Nobody would be mad enough to attempt photo or video editing, even serious writing on these machines, and their best use is - as the name suggests - for web surfing and cloud-based apps, with a simplified UI.
Yet I still prefer the traditional desktop on them, probably because of its familiarity, and because I sometimes do the sort of things on them which I shouldn't really use them for, like writing, simply to be in the fresh air :-) That was my point about Plasma: it's fairly straightforward to use Folderview to knock up a simple UI that doesn't rely on chunky panels and menu slabs, and Activities rather than the traditional workspaces/virtual desktops to quickly switch between custom sets of plasmoids.