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24-Oct-2009, 11:03
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processes
I know that everyone will have different, depending on what they are using the machine for, but I seem to have 220 - 240, with only firefox, kmail,conky and a vbox open, and the usual panels....
Is this normal? If not how should I go about pruning the bloat? I am not expert at "ps" command, could someone suggest the best ps command combo to show you what they are please?
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24-Oct-2009, 11:05
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Re: processes
ps aux
I usually never have above 130 processes running/sleeping combined. But the amount of processes does not only depend on foreground programs you run but also on background services, which most of them just sleep and listen.
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24-Oct-2009, 11:16
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Re: processes
WOW! quick reply there mate... (impressed)
When I was first trying with openSuse I would bash away at the install option till something worked, I guess there is a lot of stuff here that I never use.. My poor old machine takes nearly as long to boot as Windozzze Code:
USER PID %CPU %MEM VSZ RSS TTY STAT START TIME COMMAND root 1 0.0 0.0 1008 76 ? Ss 11:15 0:01 init [5] root 2 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? S< 11:15 0:00 [kthreadd] root 3 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? S< 11:15 0:00 [migration/0] root 4 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? S< 11:15 0:00 [ksoftirqd/0] root 5 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? S< 11:15 0:01 [events/0] root 6 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? S< 11:15 0:00 [khelper] root 7 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? S< 11:15 0:00 [kintegrityd/0] root 8 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? S< 11:15 0:00 [kblockd/0] root 9 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? S< 11:15 0:00 [kacpid] root 10 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? S< 11:15 0:00 [kacpi_notify] root 11 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? S< 11:15 0:00 [cqueue] root 12 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? S< 11:15 0:00 [kseriod] root 13 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? S< 11:15 0:19 [kondemand/0] root 14 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? S 11:15 0:01 [pdflush] root 15 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? S 11:15 0:00 [pdflush] root 16 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? S< 11:15 0:04 [kswapd0] root 17 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? S< 11:15 0:00 [aio/0] root 18 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? S< 11:15 0:00 [kpsmoused] root 54 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? S< 11:15 0:00 [ata/0] root 55 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? S< 11:15 0:00 [ata_aux] root 57 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? S< 11:15 0:00 [scsi_eh_0] root 58 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? S< 11:15 0:00 [scsi_eh_1] root 59 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? S< 11:15 0:00 [scsi_eh_2] root 60 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? S< 11:15 0:00 [scsi_eh_3] root 63 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? S< 11:15 0:00 [scsi_eh_4] root 64 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? S< 11:15 0:00 [scsi_eh_5] root 196 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? S< 11:15 0:00 [ksuspend_usbd] root 197 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? S< 11:15 0:00 [khubd] root 545 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? S< 11:15 0:01 [kjournald] root 626 0.0 0.0 2760 344 ? S<s 11:15 0:00 /sbin/udevd --daemon root 1214 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? S< 11:15 0:02 [zd1211rw] root 1220 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? S< 11:15 0:03 [zd1211rw] root 1267 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? S< 11:15 0:00 [hd-audio0] root 1352 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? S< 11:15 0:00 [kauditd] root 1373 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? S< 11:15 0:00 [kstriped] root 1421 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? S< 11:15 0:01 [kjournald] root 1443 0.8 0.1 5256 3536 ? Ss 11:15 3:01 /sbin/mount.ntfs-3g /dev/sda1 /windo root 1889 0.0 0.0 1776 468 ? Ss 11:15 0:00 /sbin/acpid root 1897 0.0 0.0 1912 384 ? Ss 11:15 0:00 /sbin/klogd -c 1 -x root 1901 0.0 0.0 2596 808 ? Ss 11:15 0:00 /sbin/syslog-ng 101 1913 0.0 0.0 2844 1044 ? Ss 11:15 0:00 /bin/dbus-daemon --system 103 1958 0.0 0.1 6708 2356 ? Ss 11:15 0:00 /usr/sbin/hald --daemon=yes root 1967 0.0 0.0 16556 1904 ? Ssl 11:15 0:00 /usr/sbin/console-kit-daemon root 2032 0.0 0.0 3528 1104 ? S 11:15 0:00 hald-runner root 2093 0.0 0.0 3648 976 ? S 11:15 0:00 hald-addon-input: Listening on /dev/ root 2238 0.0 0.0 3664 1132 ? S 11:15 0:00 /usr/lib/hal/hald-addon-cpufreq 103 2244 0.0 0.0 3376 860 ? S 11:15 0:00 hald-addon-acpi: listening on acpid root 2457 0.0 0.0 3896 500 ? Ss 11:16 0:00 /usr/bin/kdm root 2487 7.0 3.8 129964 74196 tty7 RLs+ 11:16 24:59 /usr/bin/Xorg -br -nolisten tcp :0 v root 2507 0.0 0.0 2316 696 ? Ss 11:16 0:00 /sbin/rpcbind root 2738 0.0 0.0 4704 1232 ? S 11:16 0:00 -:0 root 2786 0.0 0.0 10708 512 ? S<sl 11:16 0:00 /sbin/auditd -s disable root 2792 0.0 0.0 10144 572 ? S<sl 11:16 0:00 /sbin/audispd avahi 2811 0.0 0.0 2956 1108 ? Ss 11:16 0:00 avahi-daemon: running [linux-oqc9.lo stephen 2814 0.0 0.0 4452 1260 ? Ss 11:16 0:00 /bin/sh /usr/bin/startkde3 root 2971 0.0 0.0 7400 1780 ? Ss 11:16 0:00 /usr/sbin/cupsd stephen 3229 0.0 0.0 4016 360 ? Ss 11:16 0:00 /usr/bin/gpg-agent --sh --daemon --w root 3328 0.0 0.0 1628 116 ? S 11:16 0:00 start_kdeinit --new-startup +kcminit stephen 3329 0.0 0.2 27492 5588 ? Ss 11:16 0:00 kdeinit Running... stephen 3332 0.0 0.1 26812 2528 ? S 11:16 0:00 dcopserver [kdeinit] --nosid stephen 3335 0.0 0.3 29660 6024 ? S 11:16 0:00 klauncher [kdeinit] --new-startup stephen 3343 0.0 0.6 36908 12212 ? S 11:16 0:03 kded [kdeinit] --new-startup root 3731 0.0 0.0 142840 1120 ? Ssl 11:16 0:01 /usr/sbin/nscd root 3741 0.0 0.0 2148 136 ? Ss 11:16 0:00 /sbin/dhcpcd --netconfig -L -E -HHH root 3811 0.0 0.0 7044 1508 ? Ss 11:16 0:00 /usr/lib/postfix/master postfix 3840 0.0 0.0 6888 1620 ? S 11:16 0:00 qmgr -l -t fifo -u root 3847 0.0 0.0 2320 520 ? Ss 11:16 0:00 /usr/sbin/cron root 3889 0.0 0.0 3544 648 ? S 11:16 0:00 /usr/sbin/smartd root 3915 0.0 0.0 5584 820 ? Ss 11:16 0:09 /usr/sbin/smpppd root 3947 0.0 0.0 6572 540 ? Ss 11:16 0:00 /usr/sbin/sshd -o PidFile=/var/run/s root 4122 0.0 0.0 2268 564 tty1 Ss+ 11:16 0:00 /sbin/mingetty --noclear tty1 root 4124 0.0 0.0 2268 564 tty2 Ss+ 11:16 0:00 /sbin/mingetty tty2 root 4126 0.0 0.0 2268 548 tty3 Ss+ 11:16 0:00 /sbin/mingetty tty3 root 4128 0.0 0.0 2268 548 tty4 Ss+ 11:16 0:00 /sbin/mingetty tty4 root 4131 0.0 0.0 2268 548 tty5 Ss+ 11:16 0:00 /sbin/mingetty tty5 root 4132 0.0 0.0 2268 548 tty6 Ss+ 11:16 0:00 /sbin/mingetty tty6 stephen 4168 0.0 0.0 1764 308 ? S 11:16 0:00 kwrapper ksmserver stephen 4170 0.0 0.3 29720 7464 ? S 11:16 0:00 ksmserver [kdeinit] stephen 4171 4.4 0.6 37940 12328 ? SL 11:16 15:52 compiz --sm-client-id 10147cfdde6000 stephen 4172 0.0 0.6 23856 11780 ? Ss 11:16 0:10 /usr/bin/kde-window-decorator stephen 4177 0.0 0.0 3560 524 ? S 11:16 0:00 dbus-launch --autolaunch 8ec067da2d9 stephen 4179 0.0 0.8 40712 17180 ? S 11:16 0:09 kdesktop [kdeinit] stephen 4180 0.0 0.0 3040 824 ? Ss 11:16 0:00 /bin/dbus-daemon --fork --print-pid stephen 4182 0.1 0.9 42584 18800 ? S 11:16 0:27 kicker [kdeinit] stephen 4185 0.0 0.5 31860 10972 ? S 11:16 0:00 kio_uiserver [kdeinit] stephen 4195 0.0 0.1 17184 3352 ? S 11:16 0:01 xfce4-settings-helper --display :0.0 stephen 4196 0.0 0.1 18144 3840 ? S 11:16 0:00 Thunar --sm-client-id 10147cfdde6000 stephen 4198 0.0 0.0 3856 1268 ? S 11:16 0:00 /usr/lib/xfconfd stephen 4209 0.0 0.4 47844 9248 ? S 11:16 0:01 knotify [kdeinit] stephen 4215 0.0 0.0 93424 1876 ? Ssl 11:16 0:00 /usr/bin/pulseaudio --start stephen 4218 0.0 0.7 64448 15120 ? Sl 11:16 0:00 policykit-kde stephen 4222 0.0 0.5 33300 10700 ? S 11:16 0:00 kmix [kdeinit] -autostart stephen 4224 0.0 0.4 30896 8528 ? S 11:16 0:04 klipper [kdeinit] stephen 4225 0.0 0.7 66520 14728 ? S 11:16 0:00 kupdateapplet stephen 4257 0.0 0.0 4188 1196 ? S 11:20 0:00 /bin/sh /usr/bin/firefox stephen 4262 28.4 8.4 560944 163392 ? RLl 11:20 99:41 /usr/lib/firefox/firefox stephen 4265 0.0 0.1 6220 2468 ? S 11:20 0:00 /usr/lib/GConf/2/gconfd-2 stephen 4308 0.1 1.2 94288 24292 ? Sl 11:20 0:23 kmail -caption KMail -icon kmail -mi stephen 4313 0.0 0.3 51840 6176 ? S 11:20 0:00 kio_imap4 [kdeinit] imaps /tmp/ksock stephen 5021 0.0 0.7 66508 14616 ? Sl 12:04 0:04 /usr/lib/virtualbox/VirtualBox stephen 5039 0.0 0.0 10668 1788 ? S 12:04 0:03 /usr/lib/virtualbox/VBoxXPCOMIPCD stephen 5052 0.0 0.1 16648 2436 ? Sl 12:04 0:11 /usr/lib/virtualbox/VBoxSVC --automa stephen 5077 18.1 55.6 1146840 1068928 ? RLl 12:04 55:30 /usr/lib/virtualbox/VirtualBox --com stephen 10704 0.0 0.1 33804 3808 ? Ss 15:16 0:00 kdeinit4: kdeinit4 Running... stephen 10705 0.0 0.4 36232 9348 ? S 15:16 0:00 klauncher stephen 10708 0.0 0.6 65340 13380 ? S 15:16 0:00 kded4 stephen 10751 1.3 1.6 162012 30828 ? Sl 15:16 1:31 /usr/bin/knotify4 postfix 11064 0.0 0.0 6844 1728 ? S 16:15 0:00 pickup -l -t fifo -u stephen 11363 0.0 0.2 29952 4896 ? S 16:26 0:00 kio_file [kdeinit] file /tmp/ksocket stephen 12091 0.2 0.2 8068 4268 ? S 17:00 0:01 conky postfix 12121 0.0 0.1 7220 2004 ? S 17:06 0:00 smtp -t unix -u postfix 12125 0.0 0.1 7220 2008 ? S 17:06 0:00 smtp -t unix -u postfix 12129 0.0 0.1 7220 2008 ? S 17:06 0:00 smtp -t unix -u stephen 12133 0.0 0.2 50440 5612 ? S 17:08 0:00 kio_pop3 [kdeinit] pop3 /tmp/ksocket postfix 12138 0.0 0.0 6872 1772 ? S 17:08 0:00 bounce -z -n defer -t unix -u stephen 12155 2.7 0.7 35240 13740 ? R 17:09 0:00 konsole [kdeinit] stephen 12156 0.3 0.1 5192 2220 pts/1 Ss 17:10 0:00 /bin/bash stephen 12165 0.0 0.0 2704 872 pts/1 R+ 17:10 0:00 ps aux stephen@linux-oqc9:~>
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24-Oct-2009, 11:18
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Re: processes
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top and procinfo may give you better information as well. I have around 162 with at least 155+ sleeping.... -- Cheers Malcolm °¿° (Linux Counter #276890) openSUSE 11.2 RC 1 (i586) Kernel 2.6.31.3-1-desktop up 15:27, 2 users, load average: 0.10, 0.13, 0.10 ASUS eeePC 1000HE ATOM N280 1.66GHz | GPU Mobile 945GM/GMS/GME
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24-Oct-2009, 11:21
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Re: processes
I have around 142 processes running with Hedgewars and Firefox running at one time, and it surprises me that my number is higher, much higher, than what a system running that bloated Windows Vista would be running. (Vista runs around 60-70 processes on average). Still, I experience no serious slowdowns, in fact, hardly any slowdowns on my machine at all. If your system is fast, I'd say there's no need to worry. Don't look at the amount of processes and RAM they take up: just see if your system is slow or not. If it's not slow, I would not worry.
And most of these processes are background processes, which are important for the functioning of your system. Some are less important, so you can disable them. If you still want to disable some processes, maybe someone else more technical than me can help. I'm not an expert at determining which processes are important and which are not. Hope this helps you.
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24-Oct-2009, 11:27
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Re: processes
do you need avahi?
do you need auditing? do you need postfix mailer? do you need RPC? do you need CUPS? do you need SSH? do you need console-kit? If not, disable them in YaST -> System -> Services
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24-Oct-2009, 11:27
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Re: processes
Thanks Cat, I look forward to some of the techies telling me what I don't need....
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24-Oct-2009, 11:36
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Re: processes
do you need avahi? dunno!
do you need auditing? dunno! do you need postfix mailer? dunno! do you need RPC? dunno! do you need CUPS? print sever isn't it?, Probably not, I have no printer, ATM! do you need SSH? err no don't think so, for accessing other machines? do you need console-kit? dunno! I think I must go to google and find out what they do! If I find I really do not need should I uninstall them or just disable?
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24-Oct-2009, 12:00
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Re: processes
Judging from how you answered, I don't think you need any of those so you can disable them. If you may need them, you can always enable them
 Just disabling will do
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24-Oct-2009, 14:30
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wakou wrote:
> Thanks Cat, I look forward to some of the techies telling me what I > don't need.... one of the joys of Linux is that the operating system is built with the idea that there will be one or more users and at least one administrator.. today, many machines have one user, and that user is the only administrator...so, you are the administrator (aka 'techie') for YOUR machine...the best way to ensure your machine STAYS your machine is to decide for yourself what you need and what you don't need... see, if you just ask me, and i'm not good guy, and i tell you to delete this, and set that, and install sshd, and give you information on how to set it up....well, then i can enter your machine from my desktop, and it will be MINE! and, i could then use it, via remote, to do all sorts of bad stuff.. like, i could post here as "wakou" and use bad language, be rude, etc etc and get you banned.. NOPE! don't just depend on other to tell you what you need and what you don't need....(like Window's users do--and, then wonder why they become part of million machine botnets) -- palladium
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