NNTP test thread

houghi wrote:
> harryc56 wrote:
>>
>> What do you mean by 'use as a test bed'. Test what?
>
> Posting via slrn.

OK, I start to see the confusion. I posted the original message on the
soapbox. Somehow it was crossposted to comments-suggestion and I was not
aware of that. Sorry.

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[kgroneman]

> There is no tie into Usenet.

What do you mean by that?

These forums are not tied into or connected to Usenet in any way. I don't know how else to say it.

On 2008-06-10, houghi <houghi@houghi.org.invalid> wrote:
> Could this be used as a testbed for people who post via Usenet, or is
> that not the case, because that is how I would like to use this group,
> uh forum.

As long as you mind your language.

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[oldcpu]

Originally Posted by Rikishi 42

As long as you mind your language.

Moving post back to main thread in forum.

kgroneman wrote:
>
>> > There is no tie into Usenet.
>>
>> What do you mean by that?
>
> These forums are not tied into or connected to Usenet in any way. I
> don't know how else to say it.

Very confusing statement, as I am posting through Usenet via my
leafnode to the server news:forums.opensuse.org

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On Tue, 10 Jun 2008 16:12:34 GMT
GofBorg <GofBorg@no-mx.forums.opensuse.org> wrote:

> GofBorg wrote:
>
> > Is this recognized.
> >
> I'm not seeing this thread appear on the web interface.
>
Piggy backing on your test ;-)

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[kastorff]

USENET is a network of servers that share information accessible via a client using the NNTP protocol.

The Novell NNTP server is not connected to USENET. It's stand alone.

leafnode is a small NNTP server designed for local use; they misuse the term USENET on their project site, although I'd say 100% of the folks using it do use it to connect to USENET. It's very common to interchangeably use the terms USENET and NNTP, but they are quite different.

[kgroneman]

Another similar analogy is that you can find posts from our server on Google (and will more so once I submit the sitemap) and in time, I imagine google groups will be pulling in many of our forums just like they have done for the Novell forums. It doesn't mean we have any ties to Google. They just pull our data which is a nice thing so we can reach as many people/users as we can.

kastorff wrote:
> USENET is a network of servers that share information accessible via a
> client using the NNTP protocol.

OK. I see it a bit different. Where there is only one Internet, there
can be several Usenets.

> The Novell NNTP server is not connected to USENET. It's stand alone.

Well, it is connected to at least one other, mine. ;-)

> leafnode is a small NNTP server designed for local use; they misuse the
> term USENET on their project site, although I'd say 100% of the
> folks using it do use it to connect to USENET.

No idea what you say.

> It's very common to
> interchangeably use the terms USENET and NNTP, but they are quite
> different.

I see it differently. However I now understand what was being said and
why. Thanks for the explanation (although I disagree)

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[kgroneman]

OK. I see it a bit different. Where there is only one Internet, there can be several Usenets.

Almost correct, but not quite. There is only one Usenet that is a worldwide communication system based on the protocol commonly referred to as NNTP which is made up of a lot of distributed servers and has a specific organization. To connect to usenet you have to agree to a lot of things such as pulling and pushing information, and use their hierarchical organization. I think it's also an unwritten rule that you have to be a loudmouth flamer to use Usenet.

Other networks of nntp based servers exist, but they are not Usenet. One of the main differences between Usenet and the Novell/openSUSE system is that we don't feed any other servers from our servers (forums.novell.com and forums.opensuse.org which mirror each other). (other servers can pull from us, but we don't feed them) and we use our own hierarchy. Another difference is that we can block any user/ip we darn well choose to.