SUSE Linux Enterprise 11 Released

**ReferenceSeete** · 25-Mar-2009, 22:14

Correction: The author of that iTWire article had trouble booting SLED 11 from a DVD when trying to install alongside another Linux distro.

**saahne** · 26-Mar-2009, 08:33

eWEEK review: OpenSUSE 11.1 Vies for Desktop Linux Supremacy

And screen shots: eWEEK Labs Examines SLED 11, the Microsoft-Friendly Linux

I guess a big deal if you are using this in business is that Evolution now has native MAPI support as so many businesses run Exchange Server. This is thanks to the European Commission forcing Microsoft to open up all their server protocols, not just Exchange. This is also coming to KDE Akonadi, see video/slide here, but maybe not really soon. I wish the Thunderbird/Lightning people would clue into this and start working with the OpenChange developers. The OpenChange people are pitching this as a potential Goggle Summer of Code project but my impression is that there is little enthusiasm over at Mozilla Messaging.

**ofvergara** · 26-Mar-2009, 12:45

as i mentioned in my previous post, there was no way i could install lilo on my system with SLED11.. yet lilo for SLED10 worked perfectly: dual booting with xp...

as sled11's lilo didn't work, i was forced to use grub which hosed my xp system (it erased the entry point though i could still access the partitions inside sled11beta). i'll try some advices from swerdna but i got scared now, as i lost several days of my life trying grub to work. had to reformat all my hdd in the end to go back to my previous working state...

<OF>

**A13kSAk3** · 26-Mar-2009, 14:46

Don't you have to pay for updates or anything ? and + it's not open source so, who gives a !@#$ ...

Conclusion: Stick to your openSuSE! (smile)

**69_rs_ss** · 26-Mar-2009, 15:59

On 3/26/2009 4:56 PM, A13kSAk3 wrote:
> Don't you have to pay for updates or anything ? and + it's not open
> source so, who gives a !@#$ ...
>
> Conclusion: Stick to your openSuSE! (smile)
>
>
Not opensource...where did you hear that one?

**ofvergara** · 31-Mar-2009, 13:03

Mmmm... there's something fishy in my hardware. SLED11, although has updated versions of grub & lilo from sled11beta, once more didn't accept lilo due to an error during installation as my preferred boot manager (which can be reproduced several times), so i was forced to use grub, which damaged my xp partition... again.

yesterday i had to reformat one more time, but this time i became more cautious. I have applied to xp acronis true image & deep-freeze; so in case i opt to install opensuse 11 or sled11 i won't waste much time reinstalling (both didn't recognized xp with grub; and lilo in both OS's were not "supported").

i can't believe both OS's damaged the xp partition with grub, both leaving grub in the mbr when i told them explicitly not to. that's why i infer there's something strange about my hdd & hardware because other people have not had much issues dual booting. SLED10 sp2 worked fine and coexisted nicely with xp using lilo (but strangely not with grub). Same happened with lilo when i use 9.1 personal & xp (lilo worked, not grub).

as i now have a sector by sector xp back up thanks to acronis, i am going to downgrade to opensuse 10.3 to verify what's going on...

will let you know about the outcome during the weekend, when i have free time to correct the mess i make to my system.

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**malcolmlewis** · 31-Mar-2009, 14:07

Originally Posted by ofvergara

Mmmm... there's something fishy in my hardware. SLED11, although has
updated versions of grub & lilo from sled11beta, once more didn't accept
lilo due to an error during installation as my preferred boot manager
(which can be reproduced several times), so i was forced to use grub,
which damaged my xp partition... again.

yesterday i had to reformat one more time, but this time i became more
cautious. I have applied to xp acronis true image & deep-freeze; so in
case i opt to install opensuse 11 or sled11 i won't waste much time
reinstalling (both didn't recognized xp with grub; and lilo in both OS's
were not "supported").

i can't believe both OS's damaged the xp partition with grub, both
leaving grub in the mbr when i told them explicitly not to. that's why i
infer there's something strange about my hdd & hardware because other
people have not had much issues dual booting. SLED10 sp2 worked fine and
coexisted nicely with xp using lilo (but strangely not with grub). Same
happened with lilo when i use 9.1 personal & xp (lilo worked, not grub).

as i now have a sector by sector xp back up thanks to acronis, i am
going to downgrade to opensuse 10.3 to verify what's going on...

will let you know about the outcome during the weekend, when i have
free time to correct the mess i make to my system.

<OF>

Hi
If you create an extended partition it should install there? I use the
following format for both laptops. For example this netbook is as
follows;

Code:

/dev/sda1               1        2612    20980858+   7  HPFS/NTFS
/dev/sda2            2613       22193   157284382+  83  Linux
/dev/sda3   *       22194       30396    65890597+   f  W95 Ext'd (LBA)
/dev/sda5           22194       22563     2971993+  82 Linux swap/Solaris
/dev/sda6           22564       26479 31455238+  83 Linux
/dev/sda7           26480       30396 31463271   83  Linux

sda2 for data (then soflinks in home directory)
sda6 and sda7 for operating systems

--
Cheers Malcolm �� (Linux Counter #276890)
openSUSE 11.1 (i586) Kernel 2.6.27.19-3.2-pae
up 1 day 0:01, 2 users, load average: 0.19, 0.19, 0.15
ASUS eeePC 1000HE ATOM N280 1.66GHz | GPU Mobile 945GM/GMS/GME

**whych** · 31-Mar-2009, 18:07

At the end of the day, sled is an enterprise os while opensuse is the 'bleeding' edge consumer version. If you are running in an enterprise, the users just neeed to be able to do their daily work - run word processors, spreadsheets, etc. If you are a hom euser you want the latest gimmicks. Sles/sles doesn't give the latest version of say firefox (sled/sles still uses v 2.x). Opensuse lets you choose the updates.
The 2 versions are for different markets. As a network admin you give the users the most stable system they can get and forget the computer savvy users. The majority of the company don't need the 'bleeding' edge bits to do their work.
Trouble with linux as opposed to M$ is the rate of change. In the M$ world aall their apps are compiled against older versions - in linux, the newer stuff is compiled against newer versions. This means some older programs won't run with the latest version due to incompatibility issues.
If you want the freedom of choice, use opensuse. If you are an IT manager in a company, use sled. Most of the end users don't understand the hardware, let alone the software and couldn't be trusted to install their own apps. Compare WinXP pro to WinXP home or the Vista versions. If you run xp pro in an enterprise environment, you get no rights to add/remove programs.
I don't think we should compare the enterprise version to the free version - the free version is self support and limited period updates, the other, paid support and indefinate updates.

(Sorry about the rant, but as a MCSE who has been M$ free for 6 months but have played with linus since the 80's, linux has come a long way and is great.)

**malcolmlewis** · 31-Mar-2009, 22:38

Originally Posted by whych

At the end of the day, sled is an enterprise os while opensuse is the
'bleeding' edge consumer version. If you are running in an enterprise,
the users just neeed to be able to do their daily work - run word
processors, spreadsheets, etc. If you are a hom euser you want the
latest gimmicks. Sles/sles doesn't give the latest version of say
firefox (sled/sles still uses v 2.x). Opensuse lets you choose the
updates.
The 2 versions are for different markets. As a network admin you give
the users the most stable system they can get and forget the computer
savvy users. The majority of the company don't need the 'bleeding' edge
bits to do their work.
Trouble with linux as opposed to M$ is the rate of change. In the M$
world aall their apps are compiled against older versions - in linux,
the newer stuff is compiled against newer versions. This means some
older programs won't run with the latest version due to incompatibility
issues.
If you want the freedom of choice, use opensuse. If you are an IT
manager in a company, use sled. Most of the end users don't understand
the hardware, let alone the software and couldn't be trusted to install
their own apps. Compare WinXP pro to WinXP home or the Vista versions.
If you run xp pro in an enterprise environment, you get no rights to
add/remove programs.
I don't think we should compare the enterprise version to the free
version - the free version is self support and limited period updates,
the other, paid support and indefinate updates.

(Sorry about the rant, but as a MCSE who has been M$ free for 6 months
but have played with linus since the 80's, linux has come a long way and
is great.)

Hi
While I agree with most of your comments SLE11 currently has 3.0.7
version of firefox, openoffice 3 was out for SLED10 before it was
released for openSuSE and it's also paid updates not indefinite

I like my main desktop to be stable platform hence the use of SLED, the
notebooks rock along with openSUSE

--
Cheers Malcolm �� (Linux Counter #276890)
openSUSE 11.1 (i586) Kernel 2.6.27.19-3.2-pae
up 1 day 8:29, 2 users, load average: 0.33, 0.24, 0.31
ASUS eeePC 1000HE ATOM N280 1.66GHz | GPU Mobile 945GM/GMS/GME