11.2 Roadmap and Fixed Release Cycle for openSUSE

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11.2 Roadmap and Fixed Release Cycle for openSUSE
05-Mar-2009 12:13

The roadmap for 11.2 is now set, and openSUSE is getting a fixed release cycle!* Codenamed* “Fichte,” openSUSE 11.2 is planned for release in November, and releases thereafter will happen every eight months.While all features for 11.2 are not yet settled, the release should include KDE 4.3, GNOME 2.28, Linux kernel 2.6.30 (or higher),* a [...]

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[VorianGrey]

I'm glad they settled on a 8 month release cycle. 6 months just isn't enough.

[oldcpu]

Of course these sort of schedules and plans often mean something different to everyone. In my case I think of the 1/2 dozen openSUSE PCs I maintain at home and at my mother's, and plan the update schedule. I am now of the mindset that for every release that I install on my mother's or my wife's PC, I spend extra time during the beta cycle, and possible the last alpha release, looking for bugs in apps/aspects that concern me the most.

So when I look at this tentative (subject to change) proposal:

November 2009: “Fichte” 11.2
July 2010: “Rousseau” 11.3
March 2011: “Voltaire” 12.0
November 2011: “Lessing” 12.1

I think I need to plan installing 11.3 on my mother's PC (running 11.1) when I visit North American in January 2011. And I need to install 11.2 on my wife's laptop and her desktop (both running 10.3) over the Christmas break in late Dec 2009. In both cases I get a month or more after the GM release, for the urgent bugs that that masses pick up, to be fixed. And by participating in the alpha/beta release cycle, I can hopefully pickup any application implementation specific bugs (on those releases0 for applications that my wife/mother use.

I like the fact they are making long range plans. I just hope they are not too firm in their schedule, as sometimes schedule slips are necessary.

[BenderBendingRodriguez]

I don't know if any of You realise that it will be a great opportunity to an "openSUSE vs. Ubuntu" fight as their release schedule is almost the same

[oldcpu]

I don't know if any of You realise that it will be a great opportunity to an "openSUSE vs. Ubuntu" fight as their release schedule is almost the same

Hopefully no fights. Linux is Linux. Despite my refusal to recommend Ubuntu (because of their upstream policy) some of my friend use Ubuntu, they have good things to say, and I respect their opinion.

Rather if the release schedules are similar, I see this as a great opportunity to compare distributions, and learn the priorities of the developers of each distribution.

[BenderBendingRodriguez]

Well the sign meant to not take it seriously

This is a great opportunity to see how well Gnome is integrated in the OS (i don't say anything about KDE as Kubuntu is, from what i've heard, worst KDE edition possible).

Additionaly after reading this schedule i don't see anything spectacular in the next release while other distributions are packing with new features (like Fedora for example).

[Sagemta]

An 8 month cycle that WFM! 6 months doesn't work as we here have just found out, & at Ubu despite what Canonical wants everyone to believe it doesn't work for them either. 8 months though is enough time to stay new yet get it right. That getting it right part is going to be very important over time.
We'll be getting more people here. That's because of the way MSFT is going to do Windows 7 they're already planning on doing it the way they did Vista, selling Home but putting all the good stuff in Pro. Then "nicely" not telling their customers that until after they install it. Oh they'll give you free access to install it on your Home system,but they don't tell you that either. When I tried Vista that's what they did to me.(good thing I wasn't keeping it)
This means that when these "Windows Brats" come here they're going to want something that just works. They'll be in no mood for learning anything just get it working 5 minutes before I install it!
While it's a certainty 11.2,11.3,12.0... won't be perfect even after 8 months. There's probably a good chance we won't have screwy things like having to put cdrom & disk under user to use the CD/DVD burner after installation. New linux entrants especially Windows Brats wounldn't stand for that!

[BenderBendingRodriguez]

I'd better keep openSUSE or other Linux distro "elite" than let it be dumbed down like Mac OS X. When using Linux most people have to be prepared to learn things they never had to and lived up to that time in ignorance. I don't Linux would be prepared for all those "Windows Brats", give You a real live example of a "Window Brat" trying to install something, (not from repo), it says it needs something (depdendency, clearly written it needs this ir this) and what is he doing?? Complaining that this application doesn't want to install!! While desktop users might not consider Linux a good OS then companies certainly will as they see the benefits. ALL WE NEED ARE USERS THAT THINK ENOUGH TO UNDERSTAND STUPID SIMPLE THINGS THAT POP OUT.

[Chrysantine]

I'd better keep openSUSE or other Linux distro "elite" than let it be dumbed down like Mac OS X.

How exactly is OS X dumbed down again?

Because you don't HAVE to touch the command line or spend hours to fix something as trivial as graphics or sound to work?

You know, right now I've got a ton of shell windows open; a couple of NX sessions, a few RDPs, chatting on #suse via ssh and if I want some Linux software, I can always darwinport it (or hack it with XCode myself.)

Get out of your ivory tower and realize that a system that "works" doesn't mean you can't do everything you're doing right now - the only difference is you spend less time trying to make it work and actually getting things DONE.

**** posts like yours annoy me.

[BenderBendingRodriguez]

Wow, easy. By dumbed down i mean that the system is almost completely hidden and it is easy to develop a system for a limited set of hardware isn't it? Dumbed down means, in most things you have to rely on the vendor, in this case Apple, like graphic drivers, you rely on the vendor, you can't download any from other website, and that's the tipping point of an iceberg. While it accounts for MAC OS X being so popular it doesn't force users to learn anything at all like fixing graphic card etc. Anyway, you will never make everybody happy with one solution

P.S. Yes, i used MAC OS X 10.5.6 ona desktop PC (iAtkos) and i don't really like it. Just my personal opinion.