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    Default So where are all the updates?

    I have been running openSUSE 11.3 since it was released and I have only had a few updates come through. Being used to Ubuntu where the updates come thick and fasr, I don't know whether to:

    a) Be happy that so few updates are needed or
    b) Be worried that things aren't being fixed quickly

    I'm leaning towards a) but have just a few seeds of doubt. Is it normal for there to be so few updates after a new release?
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    Default Re: So where are all the updates?

    Welcome to the world of openSUSE, where final releases deserve that title.

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    Default Re: So where are all the updates?

    In a terminal do

    Code:
    zypper lu
    It will tell you all you need to know

    as su -

    Code:
    zypper up
    will update

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    Default Re: So where are all the updates?

    I joinn tempusgugit in his happiness.

    The policy in openSUSE is that it is released and that it stays like that until the next release. Exceptions are security updates and realy "have to" patches which are called "recomended". Both are provided through the Update repo. Sometimes there are a few in a week, sometimes in one or two weeks there are none. That is about the frequency you can prepare yourself for. This is all to give you a stable system.

    For those who have as hobbyy to test or try the newest of the newest and are not that interested if there bank account can be reached tomorrow (to name just one of the things that can happen when you are not going for stability), one can use all sorts of repos named Factory and the like.
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    Given the stability I have experienced since using this distro, I figured it was the former but having been conditioned over many years to expect (and dare I say welcome) a deluge of updates.... well I guess old habits die hard, old dogs new tricks etc

    I don't think I'll be using Factory unless I do so in a VM where I won't care so much

    Quote Originally Posted by hcvv
    The policy in openSUSE is that it is released and that it stays like that until the next release.
    I like that. Kind of like Debian but not so out of date!
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    Default Re: So where are all the updates?

    On Fri, 30 Jul 2010 19:36:02 +0000, richard-g wrote:

    > Given the stability I have experienced since using this distro, I
    > figured it was the former but having been conditioned over many years to
    > expect (and dare I say welcome) a deluge of updates.... well I guess old
    > habits die hard, old dogs new tricks etc


    One thing that you might find (I know I did on 11.2) is that there are
    non-critical (optional) updates that one won't be notified of - at least
    in the default configuration. I occasionally will launch YaST's software
    installer just to see, for example, if there's a new version of
    OpenOffice to pull down. If there's no security update, it won't
    automatically show up.

    But I've been very happy with the stability myself, and I attribute that
    in part to only listing updates that fix something critical (like from a
    security standpoint).

    Jim

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    Default Re: So where are all the updates?

    You can manually track updates. There are three update repos. New(experimental, not tested), QA(being tested), and Released(in the main update repo).

    https://build.opensuse.org/maintenance/new_11.3

    https://build.opensuse.org/maintenan....3#anker-34735

    https://build.opensuse.org/maintenan....3#anker-34644
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    Default Re: So where are all the updates?

    On Sat, 31 Jul 2010 00:06:02 +0000, 67GTA wrote:

    > You can manually track updates. There are three update repos.
    > New(experimental, not tested), QA(being tested), and Released(in the
    > main update repo).
    >
    > https://build.opensuse.org/maintenance/new_11.3
    >
    > https://build.opensuse.org/maintenan....3#anker-34735
    >
    > https://build.opensuse.org/maintenan....3#anker-34644


    That's cool, I didn't realise that was there. Thanks!

    Jim



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    Default Re: So where are all the updates?

    I just found it last week while exploring the new wiki. Portal:Maintenance - openSUSE
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    Default Re: So where are all the updates?

    Quote Originally Posted by 67GTA View Post
    You can manually track updates. There are three update repos. New(experimental, not tested), QA(being tested), and Released(in the main update repo).

    https://build.opensuse.org/maintenance/new_11.3

    https://build.opensuse.org/maintenan....3#anker-34735

    https://build.opensuse.org/maintenan....3#anker-34644
    Superb. I don't know that I'll spend much time looking at it, but it is nice to know I can
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