What packages/repos do you want to see pulled into Tumbleweed?

[gregkh]

Hi all,

I'm the one in charge of the openSUSE:Tumbleweed repo and I thought I would ask
everyone here the following question I have asked others:

What packages/repos do you want to see added to Tumbleweed?

I'd like to know what repos you currently have added to your system that you
use to keep up to date with so I can add them to Tumbleweed to make things
easier for you and everyone else.

Oh, and yes, I know about the latest KDE and Gnome releases, I'm working on
them right now. See the openSUSE:Tumbleweed:KDE and openSUSE:Tumbleweed:GNOME
repos for the test experiments (use at your own risk!) for how they are
progressing. Give them a few more weeks before they are merged into the main
Tumbleweed repo for all to use.

thanks,

greg k-h

[oldcpu]

If the xorg | x11 factory repos indicates a stable updated mesa/xorg-x11 is available, I would be interested in seeing that migrate to tumbleweed, ... but because it can be very impactive if not stable, and so I think ultra conservatism would be needed in any such selection. Together with this would be the latest open source Intel graphic drivers and radeon drivers that might only work with a kernel version that tumbleweed would have.

Stable updates to the alsa driver would also be of interest, especially any user space alsa apps that might go hand-in-hand with the alsa updates that are in any tumbleweed kernel update.

Of course my reply is a bit biased as I spend most of my volunteer time trying to help openSUSE users with sound and with graphics.

[gregkh]

If the xorg | x11 factory repos indicates a stable updated mesa/xorg-x11 is
available, I would be interested in seeing that migrate to tumbleweed, ... but
because it can be very impactive if not stable, and so I think ultra
conservatism would be needed in any such selection. Together with this would
be the latest open source Intel graphic drivers and radeon drivers that might
only work with a kernel version that tumbleweed would have.

Yes, I've looked into doing this for the xorg stuff, it's a bit trickier, but we
are working on it. There's a xorg-video driver update in
openSUSE:Tumbleweed:Testing that is being evaluated right now.

Mesa might get the update by default as GNOME 3.0 needs it, so it might show up
sooner than we anticipated.

Stable updates to the alsa driver would also be of interest, especially any
user space alsa apps that might go hand-in-hand with the alsa updates that are
in any tumbleweed kernel update.

ALSA is already in Tumbleweed, you should have seen an update of it sometime
last week.

thanks,

greg k-h

[neildarlow]

Hi,

I would like to see productivity applications which aren't aligned to a particular desktop environment e.g. GIMP, Inkscape and Scribus. I think you might already have LibreOffice covered.

A current version of database servers e.g. PostgreSQL and MySQL would also be useful - along with their associated administration tools both desktop and Web-based e.g. pgAdmin3/phpPgAdmin and the MySQL equivalents.

Regards,
Neil Darlow

[DenverD]

On 04/14/2011 08:36 PM, gregkh wrote:
>
> I'm the one in charge of the openSUSE:Tumbleweed repo

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[gregkh]

I would like to see productivity applications which aren't aligned to a
particular desktop environment e.g. GIMP, Inkscape and Scribus. I think you
might already have LibreOffice covered.

Yes, LibreOffice is already in Tumbleweed.

As for GIMP and Inkscape, they don't have new updates in their base
repositories yet, so there is nothing to update to. I'll watch them though and
if they do update I'll add them.

Scribus is already updated in openSUSE:11.4:Update, and there is no newer
version yet either, so I'll add it to my "watch for updates" list as well.

A current version of database servers e.g. PostgreSQL and MySQL would also be
useful - along with their associated administration tools both desktop and
Web-based e.g. pgAdmin3/phpPgAdmin and the MySQL equivalents.

This gets a bit messier as both of them do have pretty hard ties to other
packages in places. It would be a big library update if I were to upgrade
them, so that might be better left to the "larger" main openSUSE release cycle.

Unless there are specific reasons for updating these packages that people have
and could help out in testing of them?

thanks,

greg k-h

[oldcpu]

Yes, I've looked into doing this for the xorg stuff, it's a bit trickier, but we
are working on it. There's a xorg-video driver update in openSUSE:Tumbleweed:Testing that is being evaluated right now.

That would be great, as both the open source radeon and intel drivers are in the xorg-x11-driver-video rpm. This could be a bit tricky as I think one would need to track what custom patches the 11.4 build already has for the xorg-x11-driver-video rpm, to ensure they are not lost in any tumbleweed updated packaging.

I suppose one could also consider tumbleweed updates to the nouveau graphic driver via the xorg-x11-driver-nouveau rpm, although I think that might be particularly difficult, as I don't think the nouveau driver developers have a clear cut versioning demarcation in place to the same extent that the radeon and intel driver developers have (?) < not sure >

[ulenrich]

I would like the whole opensuse-11.4-update repository copied into tumbleweed.

If I upgrade my system now, I have to
zypper up -r update
zypper dup -r tumbleweed
zypper dup -r packman
zypper dup -r kde46

Which is a bit more complicated as just
zypper dup
as it should be using prioritized tumbleweed repos. You need to use "dup" for possible new packages in tumbleweed. But because of bad build numbers this is not so easy ...

[google01103]

I would like for the build service to create repos for Tumbleweed when it creates them for the other "distibutions" (assuming that's how it works). I guess I'm saying if Tumbleweed is a "distribution" like Factory and Stable then wouldn't it be less confusing if it was structured like them?

repos to include: contrib, kde extra, kde playground, recoll, vdpau, Mozilla, Wine

[gregkh]

I would like the whole opensuse-11.4-update repository copied into tumbleweed.

If I upgrade my system now, I have to
zypper up -r update
zypper dup -r tumbleweed
zypper dup -r packman
zypper dup -r kde46

Which is a bit more complicated as just
zypper dup

Ick, no, don't do all of that, just do a
zypper dup

and you should be fine. We don't put the update repos in tumbleweed, as
they are not needed.

I'm working on adding the kde46 repo into tumbleweed, so you can remove
that one soon. Test builds are at openSUSE:Tumbleweed:KDE if you want
to try it out now.

If a simple 'dup' doesn't work for you, please let me know through
email as to the details, and I will be glad to work it out for
you.

thanks,

greg k-h