openSUSE-11.3 RC1 (release candidate 1) due tomorrow 17-June

[oldcpu]

I'm thinking SuSE-GmbH might be come close to meeting this release date (of 17-June) for 11.3 RC 1.

I note this mailing list post:

Dnia wtorek, 15 czerwca 2010 o 22:34:57

Stephan Kulow napisał(a):

Hi,

I changed the product string from Milestone 7 to RC1 now, our testing did not find anything new in this release, so I'd would like to ship build 765 as RC1. We just need an announcement

You mean build 675?

from Re: [opensuse-factory] Status: distribution and [opensuse-factory] Status: distribution

... if one looks in the mostly unstable factory iso area, as of today 16-June at 08:30 UTC (approx) one can see iso's for version 0675 but also 0676. It makes me think we are looking at either 0675 or 0676 for RC1.

[oldcpu]

... if one looks in the mostly unstable factory iso area, as of today 16-June at 08:30 UTC (approx) one can see iso's for version 0675 but also 0676. It makes me think we are looking at either 0675 or 0676 for RC1.

I downloaded the 32-bit and also the 64-bit KDE version of build 0676 of 11.3 (possibly RC1) and burned it to CD and tried them on 2 PCs:

1. I tried the 64-bit openSUSE-11.3 build 0676 KDE4 liveCD on my 64-bit Dell Studio 1537, Intel P8400 w/4GB, w/ATI Radeon 3450HD graphics . Sound just worked. The "My computer" icon actually worked this time, and it had one feature I liked, which was an entry noting it was using for 2D the "radeon" driver and for 3D the "R600 classic (7.8.1)" driver. I confirmed the Radeon open source driver by checking the /var/log/Xorg.0.log file. Resolution was the maximum expected resolution (1440x900). The graphics came up with special desktop effects and was impressive. I had seen this behaviour before in M4 to M7.
   
   Wireless works (Intel Pro 5300AGN), which was good for me to see, as I had some concerns on that give a recent openSUSE-11.2 kernel update (2.6.31-12-0.2) broke the wireless (I had to use an older kernel to get wireless working again on my openSUSE-11.2). I've had the wireless running for 1 hour now, which is promising.
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2. I then tried the 32-bit openSUSE-11.3 build-0676 KDE4 liveCD on my 32-bit AMD Athlon-2800 w/2GB (Asus A7N8X Deluxe motherboard) w/ PCI nVidia GeForce 8400GS graphics. Behaviour identical to what I saw on M6 and M7. PC booted using the Noveau graphic driver at maximum expected resolution (1920x1200). Sound worked. Wired internet worked. As anticipated, special desktop effects with the Noveau driver did not work on this hardware. The "My Computer" icon indicated the 2D driver was the Nouveau driver and the 3D driver was the nouveau Gallium (7.8.1) driver.

One thing I noted was the "artwork" / "openSUSE" branding was in my view superior to what I had seen on the milestone releases.

I'll probably wait until I get confirmation that build-0676 is RC1 (as it may instead be the earlier build-0675) before I test on too many PCs.

Also the above 2 PCs are not challenging. What is challenging is my sandbox PC (an old 32-bit AMD Athlon-1100 w/1GB (MSI KT3 Ultra motherboard) w/AGP nVidia GeForce FX5200 graphics). My Fedora13 and openSUSE-11.3 milestone release experience has taught me that the noveau driver does NOT like the FX5200 graphics.

Also, our old laptop (a 32-bit Fujitsu-Simens Amilo 7400M laptop w/1.256 GB w/Intel 1.5 celeron, and Intel i855 GM graphics) is even MORE of a challenge. The i855GM graphics are currently a "Linux killer" and I'm not too optimistic there. Maybe this weekend I'll get a chance to try out those two PCs.

[dale14846]

I'm thinking SuSE-GmbH might be come close to meeting this release date (of 17-June) for 11.3 RC 1.

I note this mailing list post:
from Re: [opensuse-factory] Status: distribution and [opensuse-factory] Status: distribution

... if one looks in the mostly unstable factory iso area, as of today 16-June at 08:30 UTC (approx) one can see iso's for version 0675 but also 0676. It makes me think we are looking at either 0675 or 0676 for RC1.

Am Dienstag 15 Juni 2010 schrieb Mariusz Fik:

> Dnia wtorek, 15 czerwca 2010 o 22:34:57 Stephan Kulow napisał(a):

> > Hi,
> >
> > I changed the product string from Milestone 7 to RC1 now,
> > our testing did not find anything new in this release, so
> > I'd would like to ship build 765 as RC1. We just need an
> > announcement

>
> You mean build 675?
>

In fact, the live cds are now build 676 as Will found early enough
that the 675 did not boot from USB.

Now RC1 is on the mirrors and factory-snapshot is updated too.

Now it's time to do the final polishing.

Greetings, Stephan

[Knurpht]

Ooops, I was already running RC1 without knowing :

Knurpht-Laptop:/home/glosscomputer # cat /etc/SuSE-release 
openSUSE 11.3 RC 1 (x86_64)
VERSION = 11.3

[Evengard]

It is already here: Software.openSUSE.org
Just no announcement yet.
Just a question - it features which version of KDE 4?

[caf4926]

It is already here: Software.openSUSE.org
Just no announcement yet.
Just a question - it features which version of KDE 4?

kde4.4.3 is the proposed release version and is currently in RC1

[Evengard]

There is a bug in 4.4.3 which makes Dolphin crash on big folders. In 4.4.4 it is apparently fixed... Try to create a folder with more than 700 files and folders, and set it's grouping parameters as "Enable grouping" and "Sort by type".
Probably this is not the best place for such a "bug report", especially when I am not an openSUSE user yet ) But I had this problem on two distros with kde 4.4.3 (debian squeeze and arch + kdemod)
See here for more details: https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=241053

[oldcpu]

There is a bug in 4.4.3 which makes Dolphin crash on big folders. In 4.4.4 it is apparently fixed... Try to create a folder with more than 700 files and folders, and set it's grouping parameters as "Enable grouping" and "Sort by type".
Probably this is not the best place for such a "bug report", especially when I am not an openSUSE user yet ) But I had this problem on two distros with kde 4.4.3 (debian squeeze and arch + kdemod)
See here for more details: https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=241053

Indeed its worth for someone to check, but I think it should ONLY be posted in a thread when its seen on openSUSE.

I just opened /usr/bin on the liveCD with Dolphin, which has 1,598 files (242.9 MiB) and there was no crash. It opened. I arranged by type. It worked when arranged by type. No crash.

[oldcpu]

I downloaded the 32-bit and also the 64-bit KDE version of build 0676 of 11.3 (possibly RC1) and burned it to CD and tried them

I just tried the 11.3 RC1 (build 0676) 64-bit openSUSE KDE liveCD on my 64-bit Intel Core i7 920 w/6GB (Asus P6T Deluxe V2 motherboard) w/ PCI-e nVidia GeForce GTX260 graphics. PC booted using the Nouveau graphic driver (per /var/log/Xorg.0.log file) at maximum expected resolution (1920x1200). As expected, special desktop effects does not work with Nouveau driver. In the "My Computer" it reported 2D driver as "nouveau" and 3D driver as "nouveau Gallium (7.8.1) [see pix].

Sound works. Wired Internet works. Firefox works (unlike M7 where it would crash (although with M7 there was eventually a work around)).

Overall on this PC, the 11.3 RC1 liveCD works very nice.

However this was NOT a challenge, as this is a Linux friendly PC. I still have my more challenging PCs ahead of me to test.

[oldcpu]

Also the above 2 PCs are not challenging. What is challenging is my sandbox PC (an old 32-bit AMD Athlon-1100 w/1GB (MSI KT3 Ultra motherboard) w/AGP nVidia GeForce FX5200 graphics). My Fedora13 and openSUSE-11.3 milestone release experience has taught me that the noveau driver does NOT like the FX5200 graphics.

So I booted the 32-bit openSUSE-11.3 RC1 (build-0676) KDE liveCD to one of the more "challenging" PCs in our apartment. This is the 32-bit AMD Athlon-1100 w/1GB (MSI KT3 Ultra motherboard) w/AGP nVidia GeForce FX5200 graphics. As anticipated, and similar to what I observed on openSUSE-11.3 Milestone7, there were hiccups with the nouveau driver.

The direct boot of the liveCD (with no special boot codes) ultimately failed with a black screen when loading X. One could see Xorg and the nouveau driver trying to configure, as three times the screen toggled between being black and the openSUSE gecko. Finally, it "gave up the ghost", gave me a black screen and I heard the KDE4 start sound. Then nothing but a black screen.

Later I used <CTRL><ALT><DEL> a few times in close proximity to restart the PC.

Success: This time when it rebooted, in the grub splash/boot menu, I typed "nomodeset" (which I understand will be the recommendation on the 11.3 Release Notes for handling such problem cases). The PC then booted to KDE, albeit at a limited 1024x768 resolution, using the nv driver. The proper resolution is 1920x1200, but still, no surprises there with 1024x768 as I saw this on previous openSUSE releases, I saw this on Fedora-13, and I also saw this on the latest Sidux-2010-01.

From the "My Computer" one can see confirmation that the 2D driver is "nv" and the 3D is "swrast (No 3D Acceleration)(7.8.1). See pix:

Now with no sax2, trying to configure higher than 1024x768 with the "nv" driver could be a challenge. My recommendation will be anyone who has functioning Linux with the "nv" driver at a high resolution should KEEP that xorg.conf, as it may come in handy later.

Now Sound worked. Wired Internet worked. Fonts were horrible at 1024x768, and I think if one wished to remain with the nv driver, they would have their work cut out for them to improve the fonts.

I note nVidia do NOT yet have a 173.xxx.xxx driver prepared for the 2.6.34 (nor for that matter for the 2.6.33) kernel. On 11.3 M6 and M7 I noted it is possible to use the current proprietary 173.xxx.xxx driver with a bit of command line hacking (for example after blacklisting nouveau driver, then starting with: startx -- -ignoreABI). That was the case on openSUSE-11.3 M7 and I plan to install 11.3 RC1 on this PC (to LXDE desktop) and test that proprietary driver on 11.3 RC1 this weekend.