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Old 16-Feb-2008, 08:59
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I just upgraded to latest snapshot of the suse unstable kde4 packages.

There have been some improvements and bug fixes in the speed, panel, and a few new desktop effects but other wise its been very disappointing.

Plasma now crashes a lot more often than before, almost whenever I start adding widgets plasma crashes a minute later.

KDE 3 applications crash plasma easily, and gnome applications don't even work properly.

KDE 4 can't save preferences for example if I set the panel to small and choose a desktop background then the next login all the settings change again.

Most of KDE 4's own application crash and don't even run, I had to start dolphin like 10 times to just get it to start otherwise the crash report came up, the kde4 konsole, kde4 kopete, or even its system settings don't start. Kopete hasn't even started once.

I know they were the unstable packages but u would think it would be use able for more than 10 minutes.

Anyway what do u all think or how has been your experience?

I am going to go submit a thousand bug reports now.
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Old 16-Feb-2008, 09:03
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Its a development release. Seriously some people have too high expectations of work in progress.

http://www.kdedevelopers.org/node/3174

http://aseigo.blogspot.com/2008/01/talking-bluntly.html
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Old 16-Feb-2008, 09:09
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Its a development release. Seriously some people have too high expectations of work in progress.

http://www.kdedevelopers.org/node/3174

http://aseigo.blogspot.com/2008/01/talking-bluntly.html
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I know its in development but seriously I though I would play around in it to find bugs to report but guess what..........this version is a bug itself.
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Old 16-Feb-2008, 09:11
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Well you've obviously not read the links I posted.

Its the user that's at fault not the application. Go read talking bluntly.

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KDE 4.0 isn't yet "better than good enough"; so why don't we just release more betas? When one perpetually releases alphas/betas a few things happen: people don't test it aggressively enough, third party developers don't get involved, core developers continue doing blue sky development rather than focusing on release qualities.[/b]
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Old 16-Feb-2008, 09:19
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I read these links when kde4 came out and I understand that it will not be use able and stuff but seriously when the konsole crashes u kind of wonder what the kde developers r up to.
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Old 16-Feb-2008, 09:22
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Reading isn't taking it on board.

Next are you sure so you've got a vanilla kde4 or would that be the development model from Suse

Tomorrow it maybe perfect, that's the thing with things still being developed.
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Old 16-Feb-2008, 09:36
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yeah its from the opensuse repos, this snapshot is updated weekly I think according to them, so should I file a bug with suse or bugs.kde.org?
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Old 16-Feb-2008, 09:39
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Give me a sec though to make sure its a bug it needs replicating, it would be an OpenSuse but bugreporting takes some work like getting debug pkgs. Running it through gdb etc..

Not just this doesn't work.

I would generally wait for the next snapshot and if it still is there then perhaps its needs reporting.
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Old 16-Feb-2008, 09:48
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ok thanks, the kicker became transparent right now......weird!
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Old 16-Feb-2008, 09:55
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http://en.opensuse.org/KDE4 I think this page says a lot but have to admit I suspect even if it works for me then it maybe 32bit.

As I'm 64bit which will mean we need someone else with kde4 on 32bit to confirm the same symptoms as you. But if it turns out to be 32bit then I suspect packaging if both it maybe upstream with KDE.
 
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