Kde4 Unstartable

I confess i did update to the latest kde4 in the kde4 repo, and now im unable to start kde4 from kdm it loads the spash screen for a second, and then decides to quit and to say "unable to start kdeinit4, please check your installation" i can run ksudoku in kde4 (shown as 3.95.00 in about) but i cant actualy login to it, any ideas? i really dont want to start it apart from kdm, as it think it could config kde from .kde folder and not .kde4, unless someone can tell me some more about this, then im lost.

I confess i did update to the latest kde4 in the kde4 repo, and now im unable to start kde4 from kdm it loads the spash screen for a second, and then decides to quit and to say "unable to start kdeinit4, please check your installation" i can run ksudoku in kde4 (shown as 3.95.00 in about) but i cant actualy login to it, any ideas? i really dont want to start it apart from kdm, as it think it could config kde from .kde folder and not .kde4, unless someone can tell me some more about this, then im lost.
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Remove kde 4 it's not stable yet only meant for testing

I'm going to move this to Beta section, if you agree.

EDIT Yep good 4 me /Geoff

Remove kde 4 it's not stable yet only meant for testing
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surely someone has kde4 installed... i just updated the kde4 on the disk, and i have kde3 and KDE4 on here too.

If they have they are developers who hang out on mailing lists and developing irc.

The rest of us like a stable well maintained system not bleeding edge hell from the gentoo wiki ...At the moment kde4 doesn't offer a working desktop implementation, so don't even think of it for everyday use.

http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-53011...light-kde4.html

And this is Gentoo says more than enough to me http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-53011...light-kde4.html

I can't be bothered looking further, you look google is your friend.

But if you want bleeding edge and support. Then you'll either have to choose a distro more bleeding edge orientated or approach the right people through the right mediums.

If they have they are developers who hang out on mailing lists and developing irc.

The rest of us like a stable well maintained system not bleeding edge hell from the gentoo wiki ...At the moment kde4 doesn't offer a working desktop implementation, so don't even think of it for everyday use.

http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-53011...light-kde4.html

And this is Gentoo says more than enough to me http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-53011...light-kde4.html

I can't be bothered looking further, you look google is your friend.

But if you want bleeding edge and support. Then you'll either have to choose a distro more bleeding edge orientated or approach the right people through the right mediums.
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heh, i just wanta see kde4, right on my own computer, and since opensuse has a build service, you'd think that updating the packages to the build service and choosing "kde4 preview" in the kdm session chooser would be plenty, I ran kde4 on 10.2 (in vmware) some time back, and it worked flawlessly, that was about 7 months ago, so why cant it work now? im not saying that i MUST have a solution, im just asking if someone has 1). had this problem, and 2.) possibly found a solution, im just curious to know if someone has found a solution to this problem, if not, no big deal, then il wait til its released, but i do want it when its stable, and im not indending to move away from opensuse again, unless its Debian SID, and debian sid also does not have kde4 in it

Its a moving target without looking at the change logs, svn commits of packages it would be pure speculation.

But what works today may be broke tomorrow what is broke today may work tomorrow.

I'd say you'd unlikely to find someone prowling the forums who is using it, I suspect it'll be mainly devs who I'd thought will be ironing bugs out.
I'd suggest you contact them through the mailing lists or irc to get a better feel, think there's a factory one.

Remember this was supposed to be released by now so something is happening.

Its a moving target without looking at the change logs, svn commits of packages it would be pure speculation.

But what works today may be broke tomorrow what is broke today may work tomorrow.

I'd say you'd unlikely to find someone prowling the forums who is using it, I suspect it'll be mainly devs who I'd thought will be ironing bugs out.
I'd suggest you contact them through the mailing lists or irc to get a better feel, think there's a factory one.

Remember this was supposed to be released by now so something is happening.
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hm, maybe i will try some things, i think im gonna setup a vmware of suse 10.3 and play with it and see if i can get it working, and see if i can get a bug report or so on, maybe kdm3 and kde4 don't get along well.

TBH everything I'm reading suggests its not ready for the desktop as a standalone.

Now having installed kde4-dolphin it seems to me many bits are working alone though. So I'd say the presumption that it doesn't work with kdm3 is wrong, otherwise all the kde4 bits that are included wouldn't work card games, mine sweeper, dolphin etc...

TBH everything I'm reading suggests its not ready for the desktop as a standalone.

Now having installed kde4-dolphin it seems to me many bits are working alone though. So I'd say the presumption that it doesn't work with kdm3 is wrong, otherwise all the kde4 bits that are included wouldn't work card games, mine sweeper, dolphin etc...
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I dont think there is a problem with kde4 so much as there is a problem with starting it, with kdm3, i think there was a change in kde4 that kdm didnt understand, hm, what is the command to start kde4, without using kdm? do i aslo need to rename .kde? maybe i need to change xsesion file... i need to research this.