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Old 14-Sep-2007, 06:19
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The Restricted_Formats/10.3 guide (on openSUSE-Community.org) is now up. To install all the codecs you would need, simply click on the relevant link.

Some additional information is available here.
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Old 14-Sep-2007, 06:40
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That should answer the complaints of the masses who just can't understand why the restricted formats are not enabled by default.
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Old 14-Sep-2007, 06:49
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Just a shame its on another Wiki the newbies will go here http://en.opensuse.org/Restricted_Formats and still be lost, come here and be pointed there again. As for searching mp3 at the wiki.

And yes I do understand, still doesn't make it straightforward we will still have to answer the questions.

Like we had to before this.

Its never been that difficult the information just has never been a place where people could find it, with out asking in a forum first.

Edit to be fair I do know the arguments but if for a sec I wanted to get nitty gritty note OGG on the restricted formats page. Now from this blog http://groups.google.com/group/tiraniaorg-...c56ee49913d3669

You get linked to an Apple post in regards to OGG http://lists.whatwg.org/pipermail/whatwg-w...une/011973.html
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Old 14-Sep-2007, 06:50
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@Wilson Phillips

i was thinking the same thing. i think that's the first thing that i do when installing a fresh system.
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Old 21-Sep-2007, 00:33
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i was thinking the same thing. i think that's the first thing that i do when installing a fresh system.
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It doesn't work for me. Says I have some missing dependencies.
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Old 21-Sep-2007, 00:58
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Just a shame its on another Wiki the newbies will go here http://en.opensuse.org/Restricted_Formats and still be lost, come here and be pointed there again. As for searching mp3 at the wiki.

And yes I do understand, still doesn't make it straightforward we will still have to answer the questions. [/b]
The alternative is for Novell to change policy, stop the free openSUSE, assign someone to sort all the licence isues, and force all openSUSE users to pay money for their openSUSE distribution.

Also, if one is more of a Linux user, than just an openSUSE user, then there are other Linux distributions one can go to, where one DOES have to pay, and one can get the codecs installed as part of the basic distribution. The choice is there for the Linux users, and they can decide what approach they wish to take.

And yes, I do understand your point, and I still think again the minor lack of "straightforwardness" that you bemoan wrt openSUSE is a small price to pay for a great opensource free distribution.
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Old 21-Sep-2007, 05:16
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Or move the proper wiki to the unofficial wiki It'll eventually make its way to the top, on a google search.

I won't drag up not liking split forums but liking split wiki's. So many of us mentioned this, being so new its begging for it. It will also allow the cleaning up as it is transferred as well. To me it seems logical. Freeze development on the official wiki point them to community instead.

I don't bemoan it at all infact 10.3 to me is so right in so many ways(I'd say its the best one I've encountered, that's my view any way). In fact I'd be prepared to start any flame war in regards to 10.3, I see soo many arguments disappear in this release, slow boot times, where? bad package manager, where? slow repo caching, where? bloat, where? etc..etc..

Its just a shame it does tie its own hands, from a new users perspective.

http://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Beginners_Guide take this page and this distro to put it mildly is far from new linux user friendly but many succeed with this page. I'd even be more than happy to do it myself for Suse but whats the point the main info would still be on the other Wiki. To combine resources into one Wiki makes sense and we know why not one so that leaves the other.

Also am I the only one that thinks not having wiki in the title is wrong for either wiki? Try searching for suse wiki. You have to search for opensuse wiki, if people thought like a new user perhaps they'd see the problems.

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Also, if one is more of a Linux user, than just an openSUSE user[/b]
Not to be rude I'm sure its not how you intended it but this has a little of a M3PH feel to it, they struggle to find the information nothing less.

IMO What some are missing is I actually think Suse is a far better Distro than the debian derivative, and its doing itself no justice, that's on principle as well as content.
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Old 21-Sep-2007, 06:34
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Or move the proper wiki to the unofficial wiki It'll eventually make its way to the top, on a google search. [/b]
If they do this, then they have to point to the unofficial wiki more directly, which in essence runs the risk of a law suit. Hence they will need to charge money for openSUSE. I think you underestimate the risk they will take, by such an action.

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Not to be rude I'm sure its not how you intended it but this has a little of a M3PH feel to it, they struggle to find the information nothing less.[/b]
I don't understand this comment at all.

I am a LINUX user first. I am an openSUSE user second. Its been that way for me since 1998 when I got my start with RedHat Linux. Now I am a happy openSUSE user now, and I do my best to support openSUSE, but I have NO axe to grind wrt openSUSE, and if a user can find a Linux version that meets their requirements better than openSUSE, then I have no qualms about recommending the user move to said distribution.

What is wrong with that? What is wrong with helping users find what is best for them? I simply do NOT understand your "m3ph" comment. Edit: I also don't like to slight any member.

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IMO What some are missing is I actually think Suse is a far better Distro than the debian derivative, and its doing itself no justice, that's on principle as well as content.[/b]
I have some friends and work associates who are Debian users who would gladly debate you (and me) on that subject. I've long since given up participating in such debates. Instead I simply try to point new LINUX users to a distribution that best suits their personality and views.
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Old 21-Sep-2007, 06:43
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They won't have to point to it let Google do the work. Its what every user uses at the moment new and old alike you'd be hard pushed to stumble across the official Wiki at the moment.

I said debian derivative(You know the name) just like you I'm not interested in flaming in regards to distro wars,
I do think this is an area me and you really do agree on there's a Distro for everyone even if it is windows.

As for comment I think from your response it clearly wasn't meant how it read to me.

For an un-offical documentation that has exceeded the official documentation have a look here browse to the bottom. http://gentoo-wiki.com/Main_Page

Perhaps there is a link from here but I've yet to find it http://www.gentoo.org/
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Old 21-Sep-2007, 07:56
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For an un-offical documentation that has exceeded the official documentation have a look here browse to the bottom. http://gentoo-wiki.com/Main_Page[/b]
The part I like best about that page is the "other languages" section. It makes it real easy to change the language, in order to get the optimum degree of help.
 

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