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Old 27-May-2008, 14:14
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is this the right page to follow to network between windows xp and opensuse 10.3 gnome.
http://www.swerdna.net.au/linhowtolanprimer.html
a few starter questions?
i have a wireless network off a belkin 54g router and a few networked computers using windows xp and windows 2000

"you should use ifup if the computer and its environment are static, e.g. a SOHO LAN. GUI Network Managers are useful for switching between wireless networks e.g. when roaming."

Be sure that you do not enable IPv6 because IPv6 will currently greatly retard your internet browsing.


do i set it to ifup or not and do i check or uncheck IPv6? im not sure what static is?

thanks
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Old 27-May-2008, 15:15
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Static (in this case) is when you have a fixed IP address (and netmask and default router) configured. In Yast, when you choose static these fields can be entered. (I think YaST does not call this static/dynamic, but asks you if you want to use DHCP or not).

Dynamic is when you use DHCP to get an IP address (and the rest) from a DHCP server (often the roouter) in your LAN.
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Old 27-May-2008, 15:20
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do not check IPv6 (i.e., DISABLE it)
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Old 27-May-2008, 15:34
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do not check IPv6 (i.e., DISABLE it)
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im going to use dhcp and if dhcp is dynamic and i dont use ifup either?
IPv6 is an update protocol so when i uncheck it, it reverts back to the old version IPv4?
am i losing another thing by unchecking IPv6 and going back to IPv4 if it goes back to v4?
thanks

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Old 27-May-2008, 15:50
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im going to use dhcp and if dhcp is dynamic and i dont use ifup either?
IPv6 is an update protocol so when i uncheck it, it reverts back to the old version IPv4?
am i losing another thing by unchecking IPv6 and going back to IPv4 if it goes back to v4?
thanks
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I do not understand what you mean by 'update protocol'. IPv4 is the version used by everybody (the IP addresses with 4 bites like: 123.321.100.1). That is supported always else you would not have much IP traffic . IPv6 uses longer addresses, but is not much used (will be in the future). I do not think many of us have it 'on'.

So it is not a question of 'reverting'. It is having Ipv4 alone, or having both.
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Old 27-May-2008, 16:13
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is this the right page to follow to network between windows xp and opensuse 10.3 gnome.
http://www.swerdna.net.au/linhowtolanprimer.html
a few starter questions?
i have a wireless network off a belkin 54g router and a few networked computers using windows xp and windows 2000

"you should use ifup if the computer and its environment are static, e.g. a SOHO LAN. GUI Network Managers are useful for switching between wireless networks e.g. when roaming."

Be sure that you do not enable IPv6 because IPv6 will currently greatly retard your internet browsing.
do i set it to ifup or not and do i check or uncheck IPv6? im not sure what static is?

thanks
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In this context, by "static" lan I meant the computers and wireless networks were not changing with time as they would if you were travelling from cafe to hotel to work to home etc. A network manager helps you change connections from one essid to another and so forth. But if there's only one essid then it's of no use at all. In that case, and this looks like your case too, inthat case use "traditional method with ifup". It's a big long phrase but there's less to do when using ifup than there is when using a network manager.

I didn't mean to use a fixed IP address. You can use DHCP.

Swerdna
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Old 27-May-2008, 16:57
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In this context, by "static" lan I meant the computers and wireless networks were not changing with time as they would if you were travelling from cafe to hotel to work to home etc. A network manager helps you change connections from one essid to another and so forth. But if there's only one essid then it's of no use at all. In that case, and this looks like your case too, inthat case use "traditional method with ifup". It's a big long phrase but there's less to do when using ifup than there is when using a network manager.

I didn't mean to use a fixed IP address. You can use DHCP.

Swerdna
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i checked traditional method with ifup and unchecked IPv6 and now i cant connect to the internet... only one light is solid on my wireless wg511t netgear card.
i am using madwifi drivers with my netgear card..
instead of trad/ w/ ifup can i use network manager with DHCP and obtain an IP automatically??
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Old 27-May-2008, 17:25
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i checked traditional method with ifup and unchecked IPv6 and now i cant connect to the internet... only one light is solid on my wireless wg511t netgear card.
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You've probably need to supply settings under either or both of the tabs for routing and/or name servers
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instead of trad/ w/ ifup can i use network manager with DHCP and obtain an IP automatically??
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You can obtain an IP address automatically when using either ifup or a network manager.

You seem keen to use a network manager. That's OK. It mostly works fine. Even though it's unnecessary in most home lans, many people still use a network manager on their home lans.

Swerdna
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Old 27-May-2008, 20:43
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in the case of home LAN whole discussion about DHCP vs static IP is not really important.
set DHCP network with unlimited lease time (router)
this is as good as static IP

obviously DHCP with unlimited lease time is easier to configure for someone who has limited experience with network

IPv6,
don't be so hasty, first make network work then if required remove IPv6 (and you don't have to touch networking config at all for this)
reasons to remove IPv6: slow network (related to DNS servers having problems with AAAA records)
if your ISP can handle IPv6, you will not be affected with IPv6 issues
as most of current network is configure for IPv4, you will not loose anything.
IPv6 can be used along IPv4, it can be used instead only if your ISP supports it. Otherwise you will need to configure IPv6inIPv4 with freenet

simple test for IPv6 use
ping6

instead of ping
or connect to kame server: if turtle is dancing, you are using ipv6 (which obviously you don't)

suse is not best in terms of network configuration, for very long time classic (ifup) method of network configuration was more reliable. But if networkmanager works for you. keep it.
 

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