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Old 14-Feb-2005, 04:45
Caesura
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Hello,

I have a SOny VaIO laptop with LCD screen ...

Does anyone know how to make fonts look great on SuSE 9.2? I've done everything I can on SUsE 9.1 (ask me for a list if you like) and so putting SuSE9.2 on seemed like the answer - and it was! Nice screen resolution (same as XP) and fonts to match. I rebooted the thing and, doh! it went back to the old SuSE 9.1 settings (I did acomplete reinstall, not an update).

I've tried all the options in SAX2 and I can't get that screen resolution back to what it was - Cntrl-Alt-Del/plus don;t work to try them either. I've looked at the XF86config file - now I realise SuSE 9.2 uses Xorg ...

I'm really stuck, here is a list of all the things I've tried :

DsiplaySize, Colour depth=26 and 24, Display type LCD not VESA, screen resolution 1620x1050@65Hz (like XP), default setting for NV graphics card - seemed to detect the card type ok.

On SuSE 9.1 : startx -- -dpi 108 (using xdpyinfo | grep resolution), freetype bytcode hack, KDE antialiasing on/off, hinting RGB etc, installing MS fonts, installing all SUsE fonts, etc etc.

I had a nice screen once after installtion of 9.2, then it vanished after a reboot.

Thanks for any help
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Old 14-Feb-2005, 07:08
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with x.org the config file is xorg.conf - but suse links it to xf86config-4...

Can you perhaps attach a screenshot so we get more of a clue how to proceed?
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Old 15-Feb-2005, 09:53
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Originally posted by a1phaomega@Feb 14 2005, 02:08 PM
with x.org the config file is xorg.conf - but suse links it to xf86config-4...
That's xf86config isn't it? I think they dropped the -4 now.

Screenshots soon... but the strangest thing happened - I set the display to a much larger resolution than the XP one using Sax2 and, while the test option froze the laptop, a reboot gave me back the nice (ish) screen resolution, even though xdpyinfo gave me a larger screen size than I have. Very odd. Still, the fonts don't look alot better to be honest, just smaller.

I think I might have to live with the wobbly fonts for now at the right screen resolution (which should be 1400x1050 @ 60Hz 327/246 mm at 108 dpi, not as I said before).

Incedentally - where can you set the dpi setting (108 in my case), what file do I put it into?

Thanks, and I'll get some screen shots to show you what the fonts look like - and maybe you'll tell me they're ok for SuSE ... even though the XP fonts are far superior (with or without the freetype2 fix and anitaliasing options I tried on 9.1).

cheers
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Old 15-Feb-2005, 12:38
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My fonts on Suse p*** all over XP - what fonts are yo using?

To set the dpi - the best way is to include a line in xog.conf as shown by specifying appropriate screen dimensions with the "DisplaySize" keyword in the "Monitor" section of the config file.

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Old 16-Feb-2005, 05:39
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Quote:
Originally posted by a1phaomega@Feb 15 2005, 07:38 PM
My fonts on Suse p*** all over XP - what fonts are yo using?
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Well that's depressing, I've never had good fonts on SuSE 8.2, 9.1 or now, 9.2. I installed the Microsoft Core fonts - they look different in some applications (Firefox) but not better. It seems the default set that comes with the initial install are the best, but blurry. The worst thng I did on 9.1 was to install all my Windows fonts (c:/Windows/Fonts/*, I think) using KDE font installer into the truetype directory. Every step I take makes them worse!

Is there a place I can set the dpi instead of starting at runlevel 3 and doing :
> startx -- -dpi 108

Not that that would make much difference, but its the "right" thing to do I think.

I've got "Display Size 327 246" in my XF86config file and the screen resolution is now back to what it is on XP. I tried to take a screen shot using Gimp on Windows and SuSE but the resultant .png files looked worse than the originals, so not very useful.

Maybe it's my laptop screen (Sony VAIO Onyx LCD with NVidia GeForce go 5700 card) that needs a driver? I haven't downloaded the offical NVidia driver for the card yet - will that make a difference to the fonts?? It didn't make any difference on 9.1 (I used YOU - was I supposed to do any post installation/kernel hacking?).

Ah well, any more help appreciated! Thanks guys,

Caesura
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Old 16-Feb-2005, 06:06
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http://tinyurl.com/6ruzc

6,760 fonts here. Large download!
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Old 16-Feb-2005, 06:24
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Originally posted by 33_hertz@Feb 16 2005, 01:06 PM
http://tinyurl.com/6ruzc

6,760 fonts here. Large download!
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Thanks for that : 158Mb is a lot of fonts!

I've got a feeling that my problem is to do with the setup of the screen and graphics card and X in general, I think I might end up with 6760 wobbly fonts, one good one would be nice!

Thanks though,

Caesura.
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Old 16-Feb-2005, 06:35
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Quote:
Originally posted by Caesura@Feb 16 2005, 12:24 PM
Thanks for that : 158Mb is a lot of fonts!

I've got a feeling that my problem is to do with the setup of the screen and graphics card and X in general, I think I might end up with 6760 wobbly fonts, one good one would be nice!

Thanks though,

Caesura.
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Hello!
I've got a Sony VAIO, but my fonts are OK. So I haven't had to wrestle with them. Hence my pretty useless reply :lol:
Good Luck.
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Old 16-Feb-2005, 07:17
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Caesura,

Does it happened to both gnome and kde?
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Old 16-Feb-2005, 07:47
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Caesura,

Does it happened to both gnome and kde?
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Yes, though Gnome looks a little better on the desktop - the application fonts (Firefox, Thunderbird, OOo etc) are the same on both KDE and Gnome (haven't tried the others).

33_Hz - do you have your XF88config/xconf file to hand? I might help to see what alternative settings there are, also - what model Sony is it ? - I have a GRT 716 and VGN 217 (which also has the same font problems).

I like Sony laptops

Cheers,

Caesura
 
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