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Old 05-Jun-2008, 08:27
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Hi,

I'm a Newbie (1 week) and currently runnning OpenSuSE 10.3 with KDE. But I keep reading about programmes created for Gnome, but never for KDE. And that Gnome programmes might cause some dependency issues or so on KDE. Since I'm not too familiar with with Linux yet, would it be better to install Gnome instead to avoid any problems in the future?

Thanks
G
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Old 05-Jun-2008, 08:32
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Hehe flame fest.

Well not sure either is better than either just different. Now you will find many of us do use KDE as for reasoning guess that will be different to each person.

You can install gnome apps in KDE shouldn't cause any dependency issues at all but will/may bring in more packages. Some people are purists and like to use one widget set for all apps, qt vs gtk. As for preference that will be for you to decide.

I'll choose the app that does the job best if it has gnome like deps than so be it.

You shouldn't have any problems in the future by mixing.
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Old 05-Jun-2008, 08:35
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Thanks,
I did get me worried, when one little program (gnome-based) needed files that were in packages, which were huge - well, much bigger than the original program, anyway.

Not exactly topic related, but how do I get icons on the desktop for files that are shell-scripts (like thunderbird)?
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Old 05-Jun-2008, 08:41
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In regards to Thunderbird it should have an icon, then it is just a case of using the kde menu => right click => add to desktop.
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Old 05-Jun-2008, 08:57
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Nope, no icon - only a little pic that looks like the console. Am I installing the apps right? I extract them and double-klick the sh-file and that's it. Is there more to it?
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Old 05-Jun-2008, 08:59
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Long time ago I filled suse bug regarding excessive (not really required) dependencies in suse.
Most of these dependencies are not really needed. A lot of these unnecessary dependencies is forced by Gnome devs, but can be avoided.

I am not going to comment about Gnome vs KDE as FeatherMonkey had already.
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Old 05-Jun-2008, 09:02
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Mmm double click!

Use a software management tool, smart or the one in Yast, make sure you add correct repos and search there I know thunderbird is there. Think in OSS/DVD maybe even the CD to.

Or you can search here and use one click if 10.3 http://packages.opensuse-community.org/ this should add any additional repos
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Old 05-Jun-2008, 09:29
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when you create desktop symlink you should be able to select program icon.
thunderbird icons are located in
path_to/thunderbird/icons

what you do is not really installation so obviously installer will not move icons to the right place.

thunderbird is not shell based (try to execute thunderbird in the text mode).


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Old 05-Jun-2008, 10:01
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Thanks everyone - the tip with one-click-install has been a revelation. I've been struggling for days to get a (any) program to run under Suse.
I have lots of pretty little icons now
Thanks again
G
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Old 05-Jun-2008, 10:06
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Glad you solved it if you add some repos to software management many of this will become available through software management.

Generally I use Non-OSS, OSS, Update and Packman then if you can't find them then use one click as it will add the odd repo.

Some can have highly experimental stuff, like a kernel that may need tweaking. If you notice the one click is on one of the above repo's you'll have no problems. But sometimes you may want something that is community contributed and adding there repo may give you newer packages of something you don't want
 

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