Problem With Smart And Plesk

Hi all,

I'm not shure if this is the right place for my question. Sorry if not : )
I'm running smart since a few weeks. It works without any problems. The problem occurs if plesk 8.4 or 8.3 is installed in the system and you want to install imap-devel or postfix or exim.
Here is the output I got:

Computing transaction...

Downgrading packages (1):
exim-4.51-21@i586

Removing packages (26):
SSHTerm-0.2.2-suse10.1.build84080425.19@noarch psa-libpam-plesk-8.4.0-suse10.1.build84080425.19@i586
psa-8.4.0-suse10.1.build84080425.19@i586 psa-locale-de-DE-8.4-build84080430.21@noarch
psa-api-8.4.0-suse10.1.build84080425.19@noarch psa-manual-custom-skin-guide-8.4.0-suse10.1.build84080425.19@noarch
psa-api-rpc-8.4.0-suse10.1.build84080425.19@noarch psa-migration-manager-8.4.0-suse10.1.build84080425.19@i586
psa-awstats-configurator-1.0.0-suse10.1.build84080425.19@noarch psa-mimp-1.0.2-suse10.1.build84080425.19@noarch
psa-backup-manager-8.4.0-suse10.1.build84080425.19@i586 psa-mnemo-2.1.2-suse10.1.build84080425.19@noarch
psa-courier-imap-add-8.4.0-suse10.1.build84080425.19@i586 psa-passwd-3.0.1-suse10.1.build84080425.19@noarch
psa-fileserver-1.0.0-suse10.1.build84080425.19@i586 psa-qmail-rblsmtpd-0.70-suse10.1.build84080425.19@i586
psa-firewall-1.0.1-suse10.1.build84080425.19@i586 psa-rubyrails-configurator-1.1.6-suse10.1.build84080425.19@i586
psa-horde-3.1.7-suse10.1.build84080425.19@noarch psa-spamassassin-8.4.0-suse10.1.build84080425.19@i586
psa-imp-4.1.6-suse10.1.build84080425.19@noarch psa-turba-2.1.7-suse10.1.build84080425.19@noarch
psa-ingo-1.1.5-suse10.1.build84080425.19@noarch psa-updates-8.4.0-suse10.1.build84080425.19@noarch
psa-kronolith-2.1.7-suse10.1.build84080425.19@noarch psa-vpn-2.0.1-suse10.1.build84080425.19@i586

1.1MB of package files are needed. 128.5MB will be freed.

Do someone of you have any idea how to avoid this issue? Perhaps the problem is the different architecture?

Now I'm far from knowing and it is nothing I've ever done. But my understanding is if you get the source and rebuild it should build against the libs you have.

I do have a couple of other suggestions but don't think any are the correct way. One being soft linking but as above I've seen comments on other distro's this is a hack not a fix. Or you have one I REALLY wouldn't suggest or like which is to use the force flag.

I am little lost to which actual package is causing the problem. I suspect imap-devel or postfix are the packages that are being built with an older exim. Though I'm confused you seem to imply it only happens if you have plesk installed, yet not if it isn't. Only way I can see what may cause this, is if those packages are related plesk and brought in when installing, but don't understand why it doesn't want to remove plesk.

If some of this isn't quite correct hopefully someone else can assist.

Maybe you can find a version here of something that may help you get around it. http://software.opensuse.org/search

Hi,

thanks for the reply so far.

I don't think that it has something to do with the libs. I forgot to mention that when I download the problematic packet, in this case exim, and do rpm -ivh .... it works perfectly. So it must have somthing to do with the way smart resolves dependesies.

If that is the case then perhaps try the mailing list for smart if you have a solution.

Though from bits I've read the smart dependency algorithm is one of the better ones.

Yea, that's what I read as well
I wrote to the mailing list, but there are no answers, so I thought here is someone with the same or a related problem.

Greetings

Our smart guru isn't about at the mo, though I suspect he would say similar, sometimes it can be related to the package.

I would just say be patient, either here you may get some more input or perhaps eventually from the mailing list.

I have to say truthfully I haven't used smart since 10.1 so can't really help.

I don't think that it has something to do with the libs. I forgot to mention that when I download the problematic packet, in this case exim, and do rpm -ivh .... it works perfectly. [/b]

IMHO, if the package is already installed, then "rpm -ivh" is most like NOT a good solution. All you end up doing with this is leaving the old package installed, and then installing the new package on top of it. This can often cause problems. This is why "rpm -Uvh" is often recommended instead.

Hi,

thanks for the reply.

IMHO, if the package is already installed, then "rpm -ivh" is most like NOT a good solution. All you end up doing with this is leaving the old package installed, and then installing the new package on top of it. This can often cause problems. This is why "rpm -Uvh" is often recommended instead.
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I think there is a misunderstanding. I don't want to install the package with rpm. But I'm wondering that rpm is working but smart isn't. I have mentioned the rpm command just to proof that it isn't a problem with the rpmdb but with smart.

Hi,

thanks for the reply so far.

I don't think that it has something to do with the libs. I forgot to mention that when I download the problematic packet, in this case exim, and do rpm -ivh .... it works perfectly. So it must have somthing to do with the way smart resolves dependesies.
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Use the --explain option.

Hi,

Use the --explain option.
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thanks for the hint. Here is the output I got. But I can't see why smart wants to install postfix. In referents to the output, I think that's the main reason why plesk would be removed.

smart install imap-devel --explain
Loading cache...
Updating cache... ################################################## ######################################### [100%]

Computing transaction...

Downgrading packages (2):
imap-devel-2004g_suse-14@i586
Downgrades:
psa-courier-imap-3.0.8-suse10.1.build84080425.19@i586 (downgraded)
Conflicts:
psa-courier-imap-3.0.8-suse10.1.build84080425.19@i586 (downgraded)
postfix-2.2.9-10@i586
Downgrades:
psa-qmail-1.03-suse10.1.build84080425.19@i586 (downgraded)
Conflicts:
psa-qmail-1.03-suse10.1.build84080425.19@i586 (downgraded)

Removing packages (26):
SSHTerm-0.2.2-suse10.1.build84080425.19@noarch
Requires:
psa-8.4.0-suse10.1.build84080425.19@i586 (removed)
psa-8.4.0-suse10.1.build84080425.19@i586
Requires:
psa-api-8.4.0-suse10.1.build84080425.19@noarch (removed)
psa-qmail-1.03-suse10.1.build84080425.19@i586 (downgraded)
psa-libpam-plesk-8.4.0-suse10.1.build84080425.19@i586 (removed)
psa-courier-imap-add-8.4.0-suse10.1.build84080425.19@i586 (removed)
Required By:
psa-api-8.4.0-suse10.1.build84080425.19@noarch (removed)
psa-libpam-plesk-8.4.0-suse10.1.build84080425.19@i586 (removed)
psa-awstats-configurator-1.0.0-suse10.1.build84080425.19@noarch (removed)
psa-api-rpc-8.4.0-suse10.1.build84080425.19@noarch (removed)
psa-locale-de-DE-8.4-build84080430.21@noarch (removed)
psa-vpn-2.0.1-suse10.1.build84080425.19@i586 (removed)
psa-manual-custom-skin-guide-8.4.0-suse10.1.build84080425.19@noarch (removed)
psa-fileserver-1.0.0-suse10.1.build84080425.19@i586 (removed)
psa-firewall-1.0.1-suse10.1.build84080425.19@i586 (removed)
psa-rubyrails-configurator-1.1.6-suse10.1.build84080425.19@i586 (removed)
psa-backup-manager-8.4.0-suse10.1.build84080425.19@i586 (removed)
psa-qmail-rblsmtpd-0.70-suse10.1.build84080425.19@i586 (removed)
psa-updates-8.4.0-suse10.1.build84080425.19@noarch (removed)
SSHTerm-0.2.2-suse10.1.build84080425.19@noarch (removed)
psa-spamassassin-8.4.0-suse10.1.build84080425.19@i586 (removed)
psa-horde-3.1.7-suse10.1.build84080425.19@noarch (removed)
psa-migration-manager-8.4.0-suse10.1.build84080425.19@i586 (removed)
psa-turba-2.1.7-suse10.1.build84080425.19@noarch (removed)
psa-api-8.4.0-suse10.1.build84080425.19@noarch
Requires:
psa-8.4.0-suse10.1.build84080425.19@i586 (removed)
Required By:
psa-migration-manager-8.4.0-suse10.1.build84080425.19@i586 (removed)
psa-api-rpc-8.4.0-suse10.1.build84080425.19@noarch (removed)
psa-8.4.0-suse10.1.build84080425.19@i586 (removed)
psa-api-rpc-8.4.0-suse10.1.build84080425.19@noarch
Requires:
psa-8.4.0-suse10.1.build84080425.19@i586 (removed)
psa-api-8.4.0-suse10.1.build84080425.19@noarch (removed)
Required By:
psa-backup-manager-8.4.0-suse10.1.build84080425.19@i586 (removed)
psa-awstats-configurator-1.0.0-suse10.1.build84080425.19@noarch
Requires:
psa-8.4.0-suse10.1.build84080425.19@i586 (removed)
Required By:
psa-updates-8.4.0-suse10.1.build84080425.19@noarch (removed)
psa-backup-manager-8.4.0-suse10.1.build84080425.19@i586
Requires:
psa-migration-manager-8.4.0-suse10.1.build84080425.19@i586 (removed)
psa-api-rpc-8.4.0-suse10.1.build84080425.19@noarch (removed)
psa-8.4.0-suse10.1.build84080425.19@i586 (removed)
psa-courier-imap-add-8.4.0-suse10.1.build84080425.19@i586
Requires:
psa-qmail-1.03-suse10.1.build84080425.19@i586 (downgraded)
psa-courier-imap-3.0.8-suse10.1.build84080425.19@i586 (downgraded)
Required By:
psa-8.4.0-suse10.1.build84080425.19@i586 (removed)
psa-fileserver-1.0.0-suse10.1.build84080425.19@i586
Requires:
psa-8.4.0-suse10.1.build84080425.19@i586 (removed)
psa-firewall-1.0.1-suse10.1.build84080425.19@i586
Requires:
psa-8.4.0-suse10.1.build84080425.19@i586 (removed)
psa-horde-3.1.7-suse10.1.build84080425.19@noarch
Requires:
psa-8.4.0-suse10.1.build84080425.19@i586 (removed)
Required By:
psa-mnemo-2.1.2-suse10.1.build84080425.19@noarch (removed)
psa-kronolith-2.1.7-suse10.1.build84080425.19@noarch (removed)
psa-imp-4.1.6-suse10.1.build84080425.19@noarch (removed)
psa-turba-2.1.7-suse10.1.build84080425.19@noarch (removed)
psa-imp-4.1.6-suse10.1.build84080425.19@noarch
Requires:
psa-horde-3.1.7-suse10.1.build84080425.19@noarch (removed)
Required By:
psa-passwd-3.0.1-suse10.1.build84080425.19@noarch (removed)
psa-ingo-1.1.5-suse10.1.build84080425.19@noarch (removed)
psa-mimp-1.0.2-suse10.1.build84080425.19@noarch (removed)
psa-ingo-1.1.5-suse10.1.build84080425.19@noarch
Requires:
psa-imp-4.1.6-suse10.1.build84080425.19@noarch (removed)
psa-kronolith-2.1.7-suse10.1.build84080425.19@noarch
Requires:
psa-horde-3.1.7-suse10.1.build84080425.19@noarch (removed)
psa-libpam-plesk-8.4.0-suse10.1.build84080425.19@i586
Requires:
psa-8.4.0-suse10.1.build84080425.19@i586 (removed)
Required By:
psa-8.4.0-suse10.1.build84080425.19@i586 (removed)
psa-locale-de-DE-8.4-build84080430.21@noarch
Requires:
psa-8.4.0-suse10.1.build84080425.19@i586 (removed)
psa-manual-custom-skin-guide-8.4.0-suse10.1.build84080425.19@noarch
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psa-8.4.0-suse10.1.build84080425.19@i586 (removed)
psa-migration-manager-8.4.0-suse10.1.build84080425.19@i586
Requires:
psa-8.4.0-suse10.1.build84080425.19@i586 (removed)
psa-api-8.4.0-suse10.1.build84080425.19@noarch (removed)
Required By:
psa-backup-manager-8.4.0-suse10.1.build84080425.19@i586 (removed)
psa-mimp-1.0.2-suse10.1.build84080425.19@noarch
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psa-mnemo-2.1.2-suse10.1.build84080425.19@noarch
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psa-passwd-3.0.1-suse10.1.build84080425.19@noarch
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psa-qmail-rblsmtpd-0.70-suse10.1.build84080425.19@i586
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psa-8.4.0-suse10.1.build84080425.19@i586 (removed)
psa-rubyrails-configurator-1.1.6-suse10.1.build84080425.19@i586
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psa-spamassassin-8.4.0-suse10.1.build84080425.19@i586
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psa-turba-2.1.7-suse10.1.build84080425.19@noarch
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psa-horde-3.1.7-suse10.1.build84080425.19@noarch (removed)
psa-updates-8.4.0-suse10.1.build84080425.19@noarch
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psa-awstats-configurator-1.0.0-suse10.1.build84080425.19@noarch (removed)
psa-8.4.0-suse10.1.build84080425.19@i586 (removed)
psa-vpn-2.0.1-suse10.1.build84080425.19@i586
Requires:
psa-8.4.0-suse10.1.build84080425.19@i586 (removed)

1.8MB of package files are needed. 128.9MB will be freed.

Confirm changes? (Y/n):

By the why: Is there a "big master help page" for smart? I couldn't find the --explain option in the man or the help page. The --config option I couldn't find either.

Greetings