Smart For Opensuse 10.2: Getting Started In Minutes

There are loads of Smart HowTos, but this one will give you a working and configured Smart for openSUSE 10.2 in a matter of minutes.

Install smart from the DVD (but not smart-gui yet)

Now install smart-latest.rpm:

for 32bit:

# rpm -Uvh http://ftp.skynet.be/pub/suser-guru/...art-latest.rpm

for 64bit:

# rpm -Uvh http://ftp.skynet.be/pub/suser-guru/...art-latest.rpm

(Edit: here the links have been shortened, thus a simple copy and paste won't work: put the full link in the command line, or download smart first). You can also install RPMs with Kpackage, but you need to install it first, from the DVD: kdeadmin3. Edit: Editted by oldcpu, to allow a cut and paste of the rpm line in this great tips, tricks and tweaks post.

There are loads of Smart HowTos, but this one will give you a working and configured Smart for openSUSE 10.2 in a matter of minutes.

Install smart from the DVD (but not smart-gui yet)

Now install smart-latest.rpm:

for 32bit:

# rpm -Uvh http://ftp.skynet.be/pub/suser-guru/smart/...mart-latest.rpm

for 64bit:

# rpm -Uvh http://ftp.skynet.be/pub/suser-guru/smart/...mart-latest.rpm

(Edit: here the links have been shortened, thus a simple copy and paste won't work: put the full link in the command line, or download smart first). You can also install RPMs with Kpackage, but you need to install it first, from the DVD: kdeadmin3.
The most relevant repos are already there.

Next:

# smart update

# smart install smart-gui

From there it is easy to enable/disable channels (Edit-> Channels).
I have the kde-community and gnome-community channels disabled.
If you want a really rock-solid system disable suse-kde as well. Leave only suse-kde-backports enabled.
Everything else should be safe enough.

(For those who don't know: # means what should be done as root).
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Thanks for sharing this

/Geoff

Thanks for sharing this

/Geoff
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Always glad when I can be of help

Sergio1704, I wouldn't mind if you contributed to the wiki. http://wiki.suselinuxsupport.de/wikka.php?...tPackageManager

There are loads of Smart HowTos, but this one will give you a working and configured Smart for openSUSE 10.2 in a matter of minutes.[/b]

This is in essence the method I use to install Smart. However this is the first time I've seen a "smart-latest.rpm" packaged by guru. I like the idea!

This is also in essence the method I have used to try and walk thru new users, in helping them install Smart. Except I was not aware of "smart-latest.rpm", which greatly simplifies things. Some comments on this "very good" method in:

a. if one did not know of "smart-latest.rpm", sometimes, when installing the smart-0.51-8.guru.suse102.i686.rpm (or what ever the version) from the more general guru repos, I found the guru smart install would fail because the rpm key was not installed. Hence I typically (before installing the guru packaged smart) would type:

rpm --import http://linux01.gwdg.de/~pbleser/guru-rpm.asc

followed by something like (possibly not exactly)

rpm -Uvh http://ftp.gwdg.de/pub/linux/misc/su...se102.i686.rpm

(or the 64-bit version as need be). In the case you note, since there now appears to be a "stand alone" guru-rpm repos specifically for "smart-latest.rpm", it makes me think no rpm key is needed to get guru's smart-latest.rpm installed. Simply type the rpm command as you noted:

rpm -Uvh http://ftp.skynet.be/pub/suser-guru/...art-latest.rpm

However, I think the rpm-key will STILL BE NEEDED for subsequent use of both Guru and packman rpms. Hence it may be necessary to add after "smart update" and before "smart install smart-gui":

rpm --import http://linux01.gwdg.de/~pbleser/guru-rpm.asc
rpm --import http://packman.unixheads.com/suse/10...y-1abd1afb.asc

... or at least install the guru rpm key.

b. I'm curious as to how long Guru will maintain/update "smart-latest.rpm" or will this change in view of item-e below,

c. As you note, this is 10.2 specific. For 10.1, one will need to change 10.2 to 10.1,

d. Again, as you note, this is 10.2 specific, this won't work for SUSE-10.0, as Novell/SuSE-GmbH did not include a packaged version of Smart with that 10.0 distribution version,

e. Again, as you note, this is 10.2 specific. Starting with 10.3, Guru is now including his packages with Packman, and hence the URL will be a Packman URL, possibly with a Packman rpm key.

f. SLED/SLES-10 users may have problems with Packman and Guru repos.

Edit: Note the above quotes in my post are not for openSUSE users to follow directly. Rather they are comments on the initial post. Instead follow the first post, which can and will be updated, if need be (for the rpm key).

Sergio1704, I wouldn't mind if you contributed to the wiki. http://wiki.suselinuxsupport.de/wikka.php?...tPackageManager
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Thanks, I'll seriously consider it

Hi oldcpu,

My experience so far is that Smart will "automatically" offer the user (root) to import the rpm-keys as needed.
Also, every time "smart-latest.rpm" is upgraded, you might be asked if you would like to activate new channels.
Normally the choice is wise and conservative. I have an openoffice-unstable.channel, which is potentially dangerous, but if I remember correctly, it was disabled by default.

Install smart from the DVD (but not smart-gui yet) [/b]

I haven't yet installed Smart. In reading this I checked my YAST2 made a search for smart & it's in there. Does that make the above quote moot? As such does it mean that for me I could do a Smart install from Yast?

I haven't yet installed Smart. In reading this I checked my YAST2 made a search for smart & it's in there. Does that make the above quote moot? As such does it mean that for me I could do a Smart install from Yast?[/b]

No, it is not mute.

The "beauty" of Sergio1704's recommendation is everything is simple.

You first install the Novell/SuSE smart from YaST (as you note). That automatically sorts ALL the dependencies for a Smart installation. That also makes the subsequent IMPORTANT upgrade to Guru's packaged Smart much much much easier (since dependencies have already been sorted by YaST). One then install's Guru's packaged Smart. Guru's packaged Smart version is significantly superior to the one packaged by Novell/SuSE, primarily because: a. it is newer (with various bug fixes), and b. it has essential repositories already setup within the application.

Hence in summary, per Sergio1704's recommendation, you simply:
a. install the Novell/SuSE packaged Smart (with YaST from the installation CD/DVD),
b. update to Guru's packaged Smart (per the command provided by Sergio1704 in post#1),
c. run "smart update" to update the repositories file lists in Guru's packaged Smart (ie update the lists of applications on different servers),
d. run "smart install smart-gui" to install the GUI for Guru's packaged version of Smart.

You can then run Smart GUI from the Menu or from a konsole with "smart --gui" (note you need root permissions in this konsole).

This is a very NEAT and CLEAN and SIMPLE approach. And IMHO for SuSE users who have never upgraded their Software Package Management, it will make their live with openSUSE so much easier.

Thanks again for your kind words, oldcpu