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Old 22-Oct-2006, 12:06
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Thanks for the link. Beryl is now working, but when I start it I lose window decorations (they work fine in Metacity). Any ideas? Is there a full howto for Beryl on SuSE 10.1 with the nVidia Beta driver? I have a thousand questions and no answers. For instance, I am assuming that all I need (beside xorg 7.1 and the nVidia Beta driver) are the beryl packages? I do not need compiz or xgl, correct?
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Did you also install emerald and emerald-themes? That's the window decorator component, it won't be pulled in though as a dependency to beryl, you need to install it seperately. If you're running beryl-manager (have the little emerald in your taskbar), you can use that to switch or restart the window decorator to test it.

You don't need Xgl or compiz, though Beryl can co-exist with compiz and Xgl if you want to maintain a fallback to something that you know works.

Beryl will autodetect whether Xgl is running and make a determination as to whether or not to use it, so you should make sure it's not loading automatically (ie. make sure /etc/sysconfig/displaymanager is set to Xorg and not Xgl).

Last thing, if you're experiencing problems with rendering, nVidia recommends adding:

Code:
****Option******** "AddARGBGLXVisuals" "True"
To your device settings in Xorg.conf, and if you're not using Xgl, make sure composite is enabled:

Code:
Section "Extensions"
****Option******** "Composite" "Enabled"
EndSection
Here's a howto on the Beryl Forums for SL10.1/Xorg7 from cyberorg, who is doing the packaging for the opensuse build service, might help if you get stuck.

Hope this helps...

Cheers,
KV
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Old 22-Oct-2006, 12:47
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Thanks Elsewhere. I also found some tips on the Beryl forums....and yes I found out about the emerald and emerald-theme packages as well. thelinuxportal, you might want to consider adding them to your beryl packages list.

One or all of the following additions to xorg.conf fixed the no window-decorations problem;


Section "Device"
BoardName "GeForce FX 5900XT"
BusID "1:0:0"
Driver "nvidia"
Identifier "Device[0]"
VendorName "NVIDIA"
Option "RenderAccel" "true"
Option "AllowGLXWithComposite" "true"
Option "backingstore" "true"
Option "TripleBuffer" "true"
Option "AddARGBGLXVisuals" "True"

EndSection

Section "Extensions"
Option "Composite" "Enable"
EndSection
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Old 22-Oct-2006, 15:31
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Thanks Elsewhere. I also found some tips on the Beryl forums....and yes I found out about the emerald and emerald-theme packages as well. thelinuxportal, you might want to consider adding them to your beryl packages list.

One or all of the following additions to xorg.conf fixed the no window-decorations problem;
Section "Device"
BoardName "GeForce FX 5900XT"
BusID "1:0:0"
Driver "nvidia"
Identifier "Device[0]"
VendorName "NVIDIA"
Option "RenderAccel" "true"
Option "AllowGLXWithComposite" "true"
Option "backingstore" "true"
Option "TripleBuffer" "true"
Option "AddARGBGLXVisuals" "True"

EndSection

Section "Extensions"
Option "Composite" "Enable"
EndSection
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Yes, entirely true, I believe I added those too, so will update.
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Old 23-Oct-2006, 06:40
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I am having one last issue with beryl-manager on GNOME. I'd like to start beryl when I logon to GNOME and have it running out of the gate. I added 'beryl-manager' to the startup tab in gnome-session-properties, and it starts when I logon. The only problem is that it appears to start up in metacity by default even though 'beryl' is checked in 'selected window manager' in beryl-manager. In order to get beryl to start I have to toggle metacity and then beryl in beryl-manager. It all works fine after that. Any ideas?

Edit: The fix is to logout of the current session and check the 'save session' checkbox on the way out. Sometimes it's the simple things ...
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Old 23-Oct-2006, 08:27
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Is working great here - 10.1, KDE 3.5.5, Xorg 7.1, Gnome.

Initially started up weird in KDE with metacity background and icons, got rid of this by either xkill + click on background, or kcontrol>desktop>behaviour>show icons on desktop (toggle it off, save, toggle it back on) to get KDE background back. Pretty stable so far. Incredibly flexible special effects for the desktop.

After installing I simply start up KDE as normal but use an autostart file to start the Beryl display manager:

[Desktop Entry]
Encoding=UTF-8
Exec=beryl-start &
GenericName[en_US]=
StartupNotify=false
Terminal=false
TerminalOptions=
Type=Application
X-KDE-autostart-after=kdesktop

Then use an icon on the desktop to fire up Beryl-manager. KDE otherwise defaults to using kdm.

Takes effort to get it going, but worth it if you like bleeding edge.

Have fun...
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Old 24-Oct-2006, 00:29
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Right, last step, open up your favourite package manager. Me, I use SMART and add the following REPO:

http://software.opensuse.org/download/X11:...USE_Linux_10.1/

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The above repository is the wrong repository if you are using xorg7.x. That repository is for xorg6.9 SUSE 10.1 only.

Use this one: http://software.opensuse.org/download/X11:...USE_Linux_10.1/
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Old 24-Oct-2006, 01:19
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Thanks for the link. Beryl is now working, but when I start it I lose window decorations (they work fine in Metacity). Any ideas? Is there a full howto for Beryl on SuSE 10.1 with the nVidia Beta driver? I have a thousand questions and no answers. For instance, I am assuming that all I need (beside xorg 7.1 and the nVidia Beta driver) are the beryl packages? I do not need compiz or xgl, correct?
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Use the Emerald Theme Manager to change the settings, here you can get your windows decorations back by choosing a suitable emerald theme.
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Old 24-Oct-2006, 02:09
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i have tried to use this howto to use beryl on my suse 10.1 but i have an ati x1400 mobility card.
Everything goes well until i run beryl-settings

it say no xgl and no aiglx found, no nvidia card en then it says no composite manager.
But my desktop changes, so it seems beryl is loaded but i can't select my windows, i don't have a title bar.

I think (very sure) that's my problem has to do with the window decoration.
i tried emerald but i must be missing something because nothing changes at all.

also i can't use any xgl functions (rotating cube and stuff)

Can someone help me on this?
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Old 24-Oct-2006, 05:57
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The above repository is the wrong repository if you are using xorg7.x. That repository is for xorg6.9 SUSE 10.1 only.

Use this one: http://software.opensuse.org/download/X11:...USE_Linux_10.1/
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Great, I had Beryl working really well then I changed to the packages in this repository. Now when I start beryl the window decorations (borders) flash rapidly and my CPU is pegged at 100%. I dropped back down to the old packages and still the same issue. (Yes I did delete ~./.beryl and ~/.emerald in between package changes) So in effect, the new packages hosed something. Any ideas?
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Old 24-Oct-2006, 17:01
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Well, I've problems with starting beryl-manager.
I'm running SuSE 10.1, GNOME and have installed a nVidia-driver.

In my xorg.conf I've this sections:

Section "Device"
BoardName "GeForce Go 7600"
BusID "1:0:0"
Driver "nvidia"
Identifier "Device[0]"
Screen 0
VendorName "NVidia"
Option "AllowGLXWithComposite" "true"
Option "backingstore" "true"
Option "TripleBuffer" "true"
Option "AddARGBGLXVisuals" "True"
EndSection

Section "Extensions"
Option "Composite" "on"
EndSection


But when I run beryl-manager the system kicks me back to the logon system

Can anybody tell me why?

 
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