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Old 06-Dec-2006, 14:19
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I know i don't need all 5 disks and can choose the packages i need, Not using a GUI to me would be a pain
to view logs, copying files, editing and whatever else you need to do to maintain and keep your server running.
I was thinking there might just be a distro specifically built to run a server that also comes with KDE (without having to go through all the packages picking and choosing which you need to just run a server and use KDE). Lets me honest, your going to run into a lot of dependency issues and a lot of packages the normal user including me on some have no idea what they even are. Do I need this or don't I?
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Old 06-Dec-2006, 15:53
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I know i don't need all 5 disks and can choose the packages i need, Not using a GUI to me would be a pain
to view logs, copying files, editing and whatever else you need to do to maintain and keep your server running.
I was thinking there might just be a distro specifically built to run a server that also comes with KDE (without having to go through all the packages picking and choosing which you need to just run a server and use KDE). Lets me honest, your going to run into a lot of dependency issues and a lot of packages the normal user including me on some have no idea what they even are. Do I need this or don't I?
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I have no problem using a server without a GUI. I even administer the server through Windows XP client machines using a command prompt (ssh) and another program called WinSCP which allows one to manage linux files on the server with a windows interface. I've only been using linux as a hobby for two years. If you want a distro that is set-up to be a server and have a KDE, most KDE linux distributions allow you to set this up when you install it. Kubuntu does and I believe SuSE does as well. Check out SuSE 10.2 when it is released on 7 December. I also know that Fedora asks when you install it whether it you want to configure it as a server or workstation. Note that the Fedora default desktop is Gnome.
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Old 06-Dec-2006, 16:41
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I know i don't need all 5 disks and can choose the packages i need, Not using a GUI to me would be a pain
to view logs, copying files, editing and whatever else you need to do to maintain and keep your server running.
I was thinking there might just be a distro specifically built to run a server that also comes with KDE (without having to go through all the packages picking and choosing which you need to just run a server and use KDE). Lets me honest, your going to run into a lot of dependency issues and a lot of packages the normal user including me on some have no idea what they even are. Do I need this or don't I?
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Just do a normal KDE install, then add the server packages you need from YaST, which will handle all the dependencies. You'll find that the number of server packages will be small compared to the total number of packages. It won't be any different with any other distro that has KDE, like Kubuntu. Well that's what you get for installing a GUI.
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Old 06-Dec-2006, 17:05
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Just do a normal KDE install, then add the server packages you need from YaST, which will handle all the dependencies. You'll find that the number of server packages will be small compared to the total number of packages. It won't be any different with any other distro that has KDE, like Kubuntu. Well that's what you get for installing a GUI.
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All i asked was if a certain distro was specifically built to run as a server but also came with KDE, idk where the idea came that i was wanting to set one up. I wasn't asking for me, i was asking from the ?'s froilan asked. I also have 2 servers running suse 10, 10.1, and kodos to you alfred, thank you for the Fedora answer, although i believe that is Redhat and I didn't like it when i used redhat 5.2 for my first distro, but maybe things have changed
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Old 06-Dec-2006, 17:34
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All i asked was if a certain distro was specifically built to run as a server but also came with KDE, idk where the idea came that i was wanting to set one up. I wasn't asking for me, i was asking from the ?'s froilan asked. I also have 2 servers running suse 10, 10.1, and kodos to you alfred, thank you for the Fedora answer, although i believe that is Redhat and I didn't like it when i used redhat 5.2 for my first distro, but maybe things have changed
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It's the reverse. Pretty much any distro can run as a server, it's just a matter of installing the required packages. The question is then, which of the distros support KDE? The answer is, the usual suspects, OpenSUSE, Kubuntu, etc. What I said.
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Old 07-Dec-2006, 13:06
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Real sysadmins don't run GUIs on the console, to save memory.
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Give me a break. There is nothing wrong with using the gui for initial setup and then disabling it after the setup is done if your your server is lacking ram (in which case real admins add more ram).
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Old 07-Dec-2006, 15:17
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Give me a break. There is nothing wrong with using the gui for initial setup and then disabling it after the setup is done if your your server is lacking ram (in which case real admins add more ram).
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Where did I say you couldn't use the GUI for initial setup?
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Old 07-Dec-2006, 21:36
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I think the forum can benefit from a few less "real" labels. The matter is quite subjective. The use of a GUI adds to system overhead yes - but it is a matter of training, cost and available hardware. The reason I don't have a GUI is because RAM is expensive these days and I can easily administer the server from a client computer - I don't need a graphics card and monitor connected to the server.

Keep it "real" y'all
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Old 11-Dec-2006, 00:02
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I agree completly, its nice to have the avaliability to loat the GUI every so often to quickly move files, and some quick configurations, then restart back into runlevel 3 to save RAM. I always install KDE, but dont have it loaded when serving files, but it helps make the configuration easier when setting up a new server.

Do what you are used to, and dont think that you have in impress somebody by trying to install a server with no GUI that is avaliable when you need it. Alot of people that dont run GUI's live in thier parents basement anyway.

Good luck with your linux server.

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Give me a break. There is nothing wrong with using the gui for initial setup and then disabling it after the setup is done if your your server is lacking ram (in which case real admins add more ram).
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Old 11-Dec-2006, 08:40
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Do what you are used to, and dont think that you have in impress somebody by trying to install a server with no GUI that is avaliable when you need it. Alot of people that dont run GUI's live in thier parents basement anyway.
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As do ones that use GUI's.
 
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