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Old 14-Oct-2005, 16:41
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I'm getting ready to take the plunge. I've got an AMD3000+winchester. Should I go with the 32bit or 64bit install? What are the pros and cons? Will I be able to get flash et al working in firefox? Do the win32 codecs work ok with 64bit? Anything else I need to know?
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Old 14-Oct-2005, 18:30
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Will I be able to get flash et al working in firefox (64bit --added)
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Suse 10, Yes Sir!

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Do the win32 codecs work ok with 64bit?
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Yes Sir!

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What are the pros and cons?
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You will find that there are more apps/rpms initially available for the x86 version than for the x86-64 version. However, the x86-64 version will catch up, plus, you can always build/compile your own.
An example is klamav, I'll bet the rpm is on the 32-bit apt site; it's not up on the 64-bit apt site. No problem, search this forum for klamav & there's a howto to build it for x86-64.

I have heard that modems are sometimes a problem, but loking thru Yast, I saw an rpm for smartmodem.

One good thing is that a 32-bit Suse will run faster on a 64-bit box; a 64-bit suse = about 20% faster than that.

On my x86-64 desktop & laptop everything works with suse10. I sometimes have to come to the forum for help with an app, but these fine folks here will bend over backwards to help you out.

If you have the disk space. why not try both? The install will pickup & setup a dual, tripple, etc. boot with no problems.

If you do go with both, my bet is that you move to x86-64 in a month or two.

Have fun
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Old 14-Oct-2005, 21:39
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OK, you sold me. I'm downloading it now. Is it very difficult to compile apps?
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Old 15-Oct-2005, 07:47
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OK, you sold me.* I'm downloading it now.* Is it very difficult to compile apps?
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Compiling can go perfectly with the use of three commands once you have the code in a folder. The three commands are ./configure make make install.

Now these generally work fine, however you can run into dependence problems. I would suggest that you add http://packman.iu-bremen.de /suse/10.0 to your Installation Sources in Yast (select http and enter the url and path in the two fields) and download the apps you need with Yasts Software manager. This works like the Debian repositories for online installation of apps.

Hope this helps
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Old 15-Oct-2005, 07:56
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Well, you have to learn how 1st.

I recommend learning how to rebuild from src 1st out of the gate as the hardest part is done for you..
check dependencies
rpmbuild --rebuild packagename
install the rpm.

Then learn how to use a .tar app.
untar
read the readme & install; check rquired dependencies; then go to town.

Search this forum; it's all here & someone will help when you get in trouble.

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Old 15-Oct-2005, 08:53
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But normally you wouldn't have to compile things, if there was a 64 (or even 32) bit app in the repository? I'm coming from Mandriva, where normally you could just use the package manager to install stuff, and it figured out the dependencies for you, etc. Yast does that, right? So compiling would just be for stuff you couldn't find already done for you, yes?
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Old 15-Oct-2005, 10:26
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But normally you wouldn't have to compile things, if there was a 64 (or even 32) bit app in the repository?* I'm coming from Mandriva, where normally you could just use the package manager to install stuff, and it figured out the dependencies for you, etc.* Yast does that, right?* So compiling would just be for stuff you couldn't find already done for you, yes?
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Old 15-Oct-2005, 12:23
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You are correct
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I've had to try to compile several things that FAIL to compile because no version is available....one example of this is KFTPGRABBER. If you can get it to compile I'd like to know...

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Old 16-Oct-2005, 05:38
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ftp.gwdg.de/pub/linux/misc/suser-scorot/suse93/RPMS/x86_64/kftpgrabber-0.6.0-1.x86_64.rpm

There you go.

http://rpm.pbone.net/ is really useful; I just searched for kftpgrabber*.
 

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