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Old 25-Jun-2005, 17:38
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Was flipping through the forums here and found that with the 64bit version there are many limitations, no flash, unstable Mplayer plugins, superkarabma doesn’t work and lots of driver issues.

Also according to the 64bit users there isn’t much of a speed difference when using the programs that are compiled for 64bit. If this is all true what’s all the rave about how wonderful the 64bit version is??

are there any major bennifits for me to switch to a 64bit OS?? I have an athlon 64 3400+ and i was thinking of making the switch but i havent found one thing thats worth making the move for, yes 64bit can address more memory than 32bit, but hey i only have 1gig of ram, so that doesnt play a roll.

so can someone plz explain!!
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Old 25-Jun-2005, 17:41
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superkarabma doesn’t work and lots of driver issues.
My Superkaramba works fine, and as far as driver issues... What driver issues? Aint seen em...
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Old 25-Jun-2005, 18:44
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My Superkaramba works fine, and as far as driver issues... What driver issues? Aint seen em...
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umm i'm just going by what i have read, but what i'm asking for is for the bennifits that sorta thing, just a little list of what i will bennifit from in changing and what i will loose with changing.
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Old 25-Jun-2005, 19:10
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Well, the issues are all going away with time, but the benefits will stay. I think you will see a major speed increase. As more programs are written to use the 64 bit OS effectively, things will get even better. Some of us old fogies remember these same discussions when we moved from 16 bit to 32 bit with the advent of the Pentium Pro. Would we go back to 16 bit now? I'll give you 3 guesses on the answer to that, but you won't need but one.
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Old 25-Jun-2005, 23:07
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Pretty much the same answer as everyone else, it's just so much faster. Especially useful if you are like me and have a very noisy laptop when the processor is running at full tilt. I have the frequency policy and scheme as powersave and acoustic respectively and it is still runs at about the same speed as my AMD 2800xp desktop even though the processor is throttled down to 800mhz.
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Old 25-Jun-2005, 23:55
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So what would i have to give up??? any major programs that are not compliled for 64bit that i would be missing???

Also does anyone know of a guide somewhere (maybe in the forums) on how to get the plugins loaded into firefox.

I've been using Linux for a while now, but its always been Xandros or Linspire and they basically do all the work for you. I dont mind gettting my hands dirty at all as long as i have something to guide me along.
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Old 28-Jun-2005, 15:09
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I guess people are right, there is really no bennifit of going to 64bit, and ihave found what distrowatch said is true about SUSE9.3.

"many reviewers were left unimpressed by what they call a "deliberate crippling" of multimedia support in this release"

for me its basically useless on the internet because i need the ability to vew vidoes and flash and other such things on the net for school.

Guess i will check back to see what suse is up to in a yr or so.
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Old 28-Jun-2005, 15:20
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Originally posted by mejason69@Jun 28 2005, 04:09 PM
I guess people are right, there is really no bennifit of going to 64bit, and ihave found what distrowatch said is true about SUSE9.3.

"many reviewers were left unimpressed by what they call a "deliberate crippling" of multimedia support in this release"
The multimedia support crippling was the fact that by default, you were not allowed to play mp3's. There are updates in YOU that take care of this issue.
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for me its basically useless on the internet because i need the ability to vew vidoes and flash and other such things on the net for school.
Now, I'm not sure what you mean about this. In every distro I have ever used, which is a lot, I have been able to view flash except on the 64 bit platform since Macromedia has yet to release a 64 bit version.
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Are you going to check back in a year because of the flash issue or the multimedia "crippling" issue? As I see it, Suse fixed the multimedia issue and the flash issue will remain until either Linux is, as big or close to, Windows or Windows XP 64 comes out of Beta and people start to use it. That is when macromedia will finally decide to make a version of flash that is 64 bit.
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Old 28-Jun-2005, 16:48
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Now, I'm not sure what you mean about this. In every distro I have ever used, which is a lot, I have been able to view flash except on the 64 bit platform since Macromedia has yet to release a 64 bit version.

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there is not 64-bit macromedia but there is not 64-bit firefox as well... if you check it out the firefox that you are going to download is for the i686 not for AMD64 or K8
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Old 28-Jun-2005, 17:25
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there is not 64-bit macromedia but there is not 64-bit firefox as well... if you check it out the firefox that you are going to download is for the i686 not for AMD64 or K8
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There are 64 bit versions of Epiphany, Galeon, Mozilla, Firefox and Opera. All you really need to do is compile it yourself. I personally don't use firefox anyway but the point is moot since there is no 64 bit flash.
 
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