KDE logoff dialog: no shutdown option

On an openSUSE 10.3 system, the "logoff" dialog does not offer the
option to shut down the system, even though I checked the "offer
shutdown options" checkbox in the KDE session manager general settings.

A Gnome session by the same user does offer that option.

Any ideas why KDE wouldn't?

TIA
T.

Tilman Schmidt,

I'm not using KDE, so I might be off on this one. But if you start X
manually from the prompt then you don't get the shutdown offered.
If X is started automatically when you start the computer, then you
should get the shutdown offered.


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Niclas Ekstedt schrieb:
> I'm not using KDE, so I might be off on this one. But if you start X
> manually from the prompt then you don't get the shutdown offered.
> If X is started automatically when you start the computer, then you
> should get the shutdown offered.

X is started automatically (runlevel 5), but I don't get shutdown
offered anyway.

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Tilman Schmidt a écrit :
> Niclas Ekstedt schrieb:
>> I'm not using KDE, so I might be off on this one. But if you start X
>> manually from the prompt then you don't get the shutdown offered.
>> If X is started automatically when you start the computer, then you
>> should get the shutdown offered.
>
> X is started automatically (runlevel 5), but I don't get shutdown
> offered anyway.
>
kde control center/kde admin/connection control/stop

there is an option who can stop the computer

(names of menus translated from french, may be different)

jdd

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jdd schrieb:
> Tilman Schmidt a écrit :
>>
>> X is started automatically (runlevel 5), but I don't get shutdown
>> offered anyway.
>>
> kde control center/kde admin/connection control/stop
>
> there is an option who can stop the computer

That one is set to: "locally: everybody" (translated from German)

Also, the whole dialog is grey, and if I click "System Administration
Mode", after entering the root password the pane only shows a
"Loading..." message. I never get the dialog back. So I have no way of
changing anything there.

Meanwhile, on the login screen there is a "shutdown" link which works
just fine. So paradoxically, someone who hasn't even logged on can shut
down the machine but someone who is already authenticated can't.

Tilman Schmidt a écrit :

> Also, the whole dialog is grey, and if I click "System Administration
> Mode", after entering the root password the pane only shows a
> "Loading..." message. I never get the dialog back. So I have no way of
> changing anything there.

same here, so there must be a bug somewhere

anyway, look at /etc/sysconfig/displaymanager, variable

DISPLAYMANAGER_SHUTDOWN (="all" for me)

or in yast sysconfig editor

jdd

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jdd schrieb:
> anyway, look at /etc/sysconfig/displaymanager, variable
>
> DISPLAYMANAGER_SHUTDOWN (="all" for me)
>
> or in yast sysconfig editor

It was set to "auto". I changed it to "all" but that didn't help.

What is the source code responsible for this so I can have a look myself?

Thx
T.

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Tilman Schmidt a écrit :
> jdd schrieb:
>> anyway, look at /etc/sysconfig/displaymanager, variable
>>
>> DISPLAYMANAGER_SHUTDOWN (="all" for me)
>>
>> or in yast sysconfig editor
>
> It was set to "auto". I changed it to "all" but that didn't help.
>
> What is the source code responsible for this so I can have a look myself?
>
> Thx
> T.
>
may be run SuSEconfig after?

jdd

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[sorry for the delay, got other fish to fry ...]

jdd schrieb:
> Tilman Schmidt a écrit :
>> jdd schrieb:
>>> anyway, look at /etc/sysconfig/displaymanager, variable
>>>
>>> DISPLAYMANAGER_SHUTDOWN (="all" for me)
>>>
>>> or in yast sysconfig editor
>>
>> It was set to "auto". I changed it to "all" but that didn't help.
>>
>> What is the source code responsible for this so I can have a look myself?
>>
> may be run SuSEconfig after?

That didn't help either.

More data points:

- While in a KDE session, the machine's power button is inoperative.
In clear: it does nothing at all, not even generate a log entry anywhere.

- Also in KDE, the red "power switch" icon in the lower right corner of
the screen produces a dialog which offers only a button "End session"
(and of course "Cancel" and "Help").

- On the same machine, and with the same user, but in a Gnome session,
the power button causes a dialog to pop up which offers buttons:
* Log off
* Lock screen
* Shut down
* Reboot

- In the same Gnome session, the "power switch" icon in Gnome menu
produces a dialog with buttons:
* Shut down
* Reboot
* Power save mode
* Hibernate mode

- Outside of any session, while the graphical logon screen is displayed,
pushing the machine's power button shuts the system down without asking
any further questions.

- The logon screen also has a "link" for shutting down the machine.

Checking another openSUSE 10.3 system, also with both desktops installed,
reveals exactly the same behaviour. Which leads me to the question: does
KDE support shutting down the system at all, or does it always force you
to log off first?

Thx
T.