WPA_PSK/AES Support

I have problems with the internet connection like I always do with Linux,
seems like that Linux does not give enough support to internet hardware.

The type of my wireless connection is WPA-PSK/AES, and I am surrently using
SUSE Linux 10.0 Retail, orignally there's no support for WPA, I have tried
wpa supplicant but I couldn't cope with the command lines. I wanted to
install a higher version with GUI support, but I need a .config to install
it with the source code, so base on the type of connection I am using, could
you please make an example of that feel and send it to me?

zccyq wrote:

> I have problems with the internet connection like I always do with Linux,
> seems like that Linux does not give enough support to internet hardware.
>
> The type of my wireless connection is WPA-PSK/AES, and I am surrently
> using SUSE Linux 10.0 Retail, orignally there's no support for WPA, I have
> tried wpa supplicant but I couldn't cope with the command lines. I wanted
> to install a higher version with GUI support, but I need a .config to
> install it with the source code, so base on the type of connection I am
> using, could you please make an example of that feel and send it to me?

To help us not to look up in whole Internet for something, it would be
helpful if you post the link to the source code file.

BTW command line is not that bad.

--
Regards,
Rajko M.

On 14.05.2006 16:37, zccyq wrote:

> I have problems with the internet connection like I always do with Linux,
> seems like that Linux does not give enough support to internet hardware.

Whatever you say. I wonder what you mean by "internet hardware".
In fact, few of Internet's core routers run on Linux, but I guess you
don't have one of those. SCNR. Anyway, Linux has plenty of support for
plenty of "Internet hardware", such as Ethernet cards, modems, ISDN
cards, etc. But of course it never is enough, as new hardware comes up
faster than anyone is able to support it, and hardware vendors only ever
care for Windows.

(There. Now you've done it. You made me write the "W" word. Your fault.
It wasn't me. AAAAUgh!)

> The type of my wireless connection is WPA-PSK/AES, and I am surrently using
> SUSE Linux 10.0 Retail, orignally there's no support for WPA,

Wrong. I have set up several machines successfully with 10.0 Retail and
WPA out of the box. One of them experienced a bug with a specific access
point model, and I couldn't connect with a WPA key (passphrase)
containing non-ASCII characters (German umlauts), but apart from that
everything worked just fine.

> I have tried
> wpa supplicant but I couldn't cope with the command lines.

That's too bad. Command lines are essential for working efficiently with
Linux.

> I wanted to
> install a higher version with GUI support, but I need a .config to install
> it with the source code, so base on the type of connection I am using, could
> you please make an example of that feel and send it to me?

No idea what you are talking about. Could you be a bit more specific?
What is that "higher version", where did you get it from, what makes you
think you need a .config, is there any message telling you so, is that
message also telling you where that .config is going to come from, etc.

--
Tilman Schmidt E-Mail: tilman@imap.cc
Bonn, Germany
- In theory, there is no difference between theory and practice.
In practice, there is.

Tilman Schmidt skrev:
> On 14.05.2006 16:37, zccyq wrote:
>
>> I have problems with the internet connection like I always do with Linux,
>> seems like that Linux does not give enough support to internet hardware.
>
> Whatever you say. I wonder what you mean by "internet hardware".
> In fact, few of Internet's core routers run on Linux, but I guess you
> don't have one of those. SCNR. Anyway, Linux has plenty of support for
> plenty of "Internet hardware", such as Ethernet cards, modems, ISDN
> cards, etc. But of course it never is enough, as new hardware comes up
> faster than anyone is able to support it, and hardware vendors only ever
> care for Windows.
>
> (There. Now you've done it. You made me write the "W" word. Your fault.
> It wasn't me. AAAAUgh!)
>
>> The type of my wireless connection is WPA-PSK/AES, and I am surrently using
>> SUSE Linux 10.0 Retail, orignally there's no support for WPA,
>
> Wrong. I have set up several machines successfully with 10.0 Retail and
> WPA out of the box. One of them experienced a bug with a specific access
> point model, and I couldn't connect with a WPA key (passphrase)
> containing non-ASCII characters (German umlauts), but apart from that
> everything worked just fine.
>
>> I have tried
>> wpa supplicant but I couldn't cope with the command lines.
>
> That's too bad. Command lines are essential for working efficiently with
> Linux.
>
>> I wanted to
>> install a higher version with GUI support, but I need a .config to install
>> it with the source code, so base on the type of connection I am using, could
>> you please make an example of that feel and send it to me?
>
> No idea what you are talking about. Could you be a bit more specific?
> What is that "higher version", where did you get it from, what makes you
> think you need a .config, is there any message telling you so, is that
> message also telling you where that .config is going to come from, etc.
>

Well I admit the guy wrote his post a bit strange, but I think you all
understand what he means.
WPA support on wireless network cards is just lousy on modern Linux
distributions (both SUSE and Ubuntu). This is really a part Linux is far
behind Windows XP.
You and me maybe think it is very nice and fast to work with shell
commands and configuration scripts like wpa_supplicant, but if this is
not being ported to a nice looking gui you understand the big mass will
not even consider Linux as an alternative OS for on the desktop.

Rutger

Rutger wrote:

> Well I admit the guy wrote his post a bit strange, but I think you all
> understand what he means.
> WPA support on wireless network cards is just lousy on modern Linux
> distributions (both SUSE and Ubuntu). This is really a part Linux is far
> behind Â*Windows XP.
> You and me maybe think it is very nice and fast to work with shell
> commands and configuration scripts like wpa_supplicant, but if this is
> not being ported to a nice looking gui you understand the big mass will
> not even consider Linux as an alternative OS for on the desktop.
>

Hi Rutger,

Linux is OS, designed and used to make computer work for you, just what you
want, helping you to gain more personal time. You program what computer has
to do and go out.

GUI programs are designed for people that input a lot of data, like writers
or graphic designers. For those that are crunching numbers GUI is useless
waste of CPU cycles.

Most of Linux users like when computer works for them and they will not
abandon command line that makes it easy to achieve. They need GUI too, but
not that much as people that use computer as yet another player (music,
video, game).

--
Regards,
Rajko M.

Rajko M skrev:
> Rutger wrote:
>
>> Well I admit the guy wrote his post a bit strange, but I think you all
>> understand what he means.
>> WPA support on wireless network cards is just lousy on modern Linux
>> distributions (both SUSE and Ubuntu). This is really a part Linux is far
>> behind Windows XP.
>> You and me maybe think it is very nice and fast to work with shell
>> commands and configuration scripts like wpa_supplicant, but if this is
>> not being ported to a nice looking gui you understand the big mass will
>> not even consider Linux as an alternative OS for on the desktop.
>>
>
> Hi Rutger,
>
> Linux is OS, designed and used to make computer work for you, just what you
> want, helping you to gain more personal time. You program what computer has
> to do and go out.
>
> GUI programs are designed for people that input a lot of data, like writers
> or graphic designers. For those that are crunching numbers GUI is useless
> waste of CPU cycles.
>
> Most of Linux users like when computer works for them and they will not
> abandon command line that makes it easy to achieve. They need GUI too, but
> not that much as people that use computer as yet another player (music,
> video, game).
>
I totally agree.

On the other hand it is obvious (and a good thing) that Linux is
competing with (mostly) Windows XP right now.
For some years ago the graphical environments on Linux were more like
optional components. Nowadays it is standard on all major Linux
distributions. What does this mean? It means that the Linux users of
today demand something else of their Linux box than the Linux users of
yesterday. While the Linux user of yesterday might prefer doing
everything in the shell (i'm one of them), it is obvious that the "new"
Linux audience coming from mostly Windows expect something else. We
can't just ignore them and luckily we don't.

Linux is getting better and better and I believe in the system. Soon it
will be seriously competing with Windows XP. We should however be
realistic and come with constructive criticism all the time to be able
to keep pushing Linux forward.

Kind regards,
Rutger

On 20.05.2006 21:31, Rutger wrote:

> Tilman Schmidt skrev:
>
>>On 14.05.2006 16:37, zccyq wrote:
[...]
>>>I wanted to
>>>install a higher version with GUI support, but I need a .config to install
>>>it with the source code, so base on the type of connection I am using, could
>>>you please make an example of that feel and send it to me?
>>
>>No idea what you are talking about. Could you be a bit more specific?
>>What is that "higher version", where did you get it from, what makes you
>>think you need a .config, is there any message telling you so, is that
>>message also telling you where that .config is going to come from, etc.
>
> Well I admit the guy wrote his post a bit strange, but I think you all
> understand what he means.

I understand exactly what he means. He means that because he can't get
it to work it's no good at all. Sweeping generalizations all over the
place instead of properly describing his problem. That sort of talk just
raises my hackles. Sorry about that.

However, with respect to his last question I left standing above, I
*really* didn't know what he was talking about, and still don't. I never
touched any ".config" when I installed WPA. But apparently he can't even
be bothered to provide the missing details so someone could help him. Or
perhaps he found his mistake and doesn't want to admit it publicly.

> WPA support on wireless network cards is just lousy on modern Linux
> distributions (both SUSE and Ubuntu). This is really a part Linux is far
> behind Windows XP.
> You and me maybe think it is very nice and fast to work with shell
> commands and configuration scripts like wpa_supplicant, but if this is
> not being ported to a nice looking gui you understand the big mass will
> not even consider Linux as an alternative OS for on the desktop.

Not at all. I set up WPA on my wife's and daughter's notebooks (both
SuSE 10 retail) just with YaST, without once resorting to the command
line. The WPA key umlaut problem was easily resolved at the GUI level,
too. Isolating the AP dependent driver bug was admittedly a bit more
complicated, but that's not something a normal end user would do in the
first place.

--
Tilman Schmidt E-Mail: tilman@imap.cc
Bonn, Germany
- In theory, there is no difference between theory and practice.
In practice, there is.

>
>
> Not at all. I set up WPA on my wife's and daughter's notebooks (both
> SuSE 10 retail) just with YaST, without once resorting to the command
> line. The WPA key umlaut problem was easily resolved at the GUI level,
> too. Isolating the AP dependent driver bug was admittedly a bit more
> complicated, but that's not something a normal end user would do in the
> first place.
>
> --
> Tilman Schmidt E-Mail: tilman@imap.cc
> Bonn, Germany
> - In theory, there is no difference between theory and practice.
> In practice, there is.


If that is the case, could you share how with the rest of us. I have SLED
10.0 with an Intel Pro 2200 Wireless card and in Yast the only options
that I get are WEP or no encryption. If there is a way to configure WPA
support I would like to have that info.

Thanks Perry

Perry.thiesen@northwestschool.org wrote:
> If that is the case, could you share how with the rest of us. I have SLED
> 10.0 with an Intel Pro 2200 Wireless card and in Yast the only options
> that I get are WEP or no encryption. If there is a way to configure WPA
> support I would like to have that info.

Have you installed the wpa supplicant package? I think you need it and it is
in the CD/DVD

-G-

Sorry if my questions sound ignorant but I am still quite new to Linux. I
have 5 CD's that make up my install media. If I am in YAST under
selections what catagory would WPA support be under. I have not been able
to find anything for WPA yet.

Perry.thiesen@northwestschool.org wrote:
> > If that is the case, could you share how with the rest of us. I have
SLED
> > 10.0 with an Intel Pro 2200 Wireless card and in Yast the only options
> > that I get are WEP or no encryption. If there is a way to configure WPA
> > support I would like to have that info.
>
> Have you installed the wpa supplicant package? I think you need it and
it is
> in the CD/DVD
>
> -G-
>