konqueror: no sorting of files after refresh

Hi,

If I have the detailed view in konqueror file manager, sort the files by
date, modify/save one of these files with a non-KDE program (or use
"touch"), and click on "refresh" in konqueror, then the date of the file is
updated, but the sort order of the files is NOT updated. A second "refresh"
updates the sort order. Hence, one has to "refresh" twice before konqui
displays the files in the correct order. This is very annoying.

I have reported this to the KDE bug tracking system, but they cannot
reproduce the bug on Kubuntu. They said that this might be a SUSE bug and
ask me to report it to SUSE (http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=101633).
I have got openSUSE 10.0 with KDE 3.5.5 using RPMs from
http://software.opensuse.org/downloa...SE_Linux_10.0/
Can you reproduce it on other versions of openSUSE and/or KDE?

Thanks,
Arne

Arne Henningsen wrote:

> Hi,
>
> If I have the detailed view in konqueror file manager, sort the files by
> date, modify/save one of these files with a non-KDE program (or use
> "touch"), and click on "refresh" in konqueror, then the date of the file
> is updated, but the sort order of the files is NOT updated. A second
> "refresh" updates the sort order. Hence, one has to "refresh" twice before
> konqui displays the files in the correct order. This is very annoying.
>
> I have reported this to the KDE bug tracking system, but they cannot
> reproduce the bug on Kubuntu. They said that this might be a SUSE bug and
> ask me to report it to SUSE (http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=101633).
> I have got openSUSE 10.0 with KDE 3.5.5 using RPMs from
> http://software.opensuse.org/downloa...SE_Linux_10.0/
> Can you reproduce it on other versions of openSUSE and/or KDE?
>
> Thanks,
> Arne

Hi Arne,

In openSUSE 10.2 I opened Konqueror as file browser (house icon in the task
bar), in console created file using command tee. The new file showed
instantly in Konqueror, no need to click on refresh button.
Repeated 2 times and it works every time.
The same happened when I removed created files.

Test was repeated with Konqueror as a web browser and it worked again,
without using refresh.

--
Regards, Rajko.
http://en.opensuse.org/Portal

Rajko M wrote:

> Arne Henningsen wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> If I have the detailed view in konqueror file manager, sort the files by
>> date, modify/save one of these files with a non-KDE program (or use
>> "touch"), and click on "refresh" in konqueror, then the date of the file
>> is updated, but the sort order of the files is NOT updated. A second
>> "refresh" updates the sort order. Hence, one has to "refresh" twice
>> before konqui displays the files in the correct order. This is very
>> annoying.
>>
>> I have reported this to the KDE bug tracking system, but they cannot
>> reproduce the bug on Kubuntu. They said that this might be a SUSE bug and
>> ask me to report it to SUSE (http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=101633).
>> I have got openSUSE 10.0 with KDE 3.5.5 using RPMs from
>> http://software.opensuse.org/downloa...SE_Linux_10.0/
>> Can you reproduce it on other versions of openSUSE and/or KDE?
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Arne
>
> Hi Arne,

Hi Rajko,

thank you for your message.

> In openSUSE 10.2 I opened Konqueror as file browser (house icon in the
> task bar), in console created file using command tee. The new file showed
> instantly in Konqueror, no need to click on refresh button.

This works for me in openSUSE 10.0, too.

> Repeated 2 times and it works every time.
> The same happened when I removed created files.

This also works for me.

> Test was repeated with Konqueror as a web browser and it worked again,
> without using refresh.

Can you (and maybe some another users) try to replicate what I have
described above?

1) konqueror file manager: detailed view, sort the files by date
2) modify and safe one of the shown files (NOT the newest file) with a
non-KDE application (or use "touch" at the command line)
Q1: Is the date of the file in konqueror updated? [No]
3) Click on the refresh button in konqueror
Q2: Is the date of the file in konqueror updated? [Yes]
Q3: Is the sort order in konqueror updated? [No]
4) Click again on the refresh button in konqueror
Q4: Is the sort order in konqueror updated? [Yes]

Thanks,
Arne

Arne Henningsen wrote:

> Can you (and maybe some another users) try to replicate what I have
> described above?
>
> 1) konqueror file manager: detailed view, sort the files by date
> 2) modify and safe one of the shown files (NOT the newest file) with a
> non-KDE application (or use "touch" at the command line)
> Q1: Is the date of the file in konqueror updated? [No]
> 3) Click on the refresh button in konqueror
> Q2: Is the date of the file in konqueror updated? [Yes]
> Q3: Is the sort order in konqueror updated? [No]
> 4) Click again on the refresh button in konqueror
> Q4: Is the sort order in konqueror updated? [Yes]
>
> Thanks,
> Arne

I can confirm above.
It is obviously bug that doesn't affect many situations and it not high
priority. The problem is need for a second click. I can understand that
they don't want autoupdater to check too many fields, but once you ask for
refresh it should go all the way, not only to checka current sort criteria.

--
Regards, Rajko.
http://en.opensuse.org/Portal

Rajko M wrote:
> Arne Henningsen wrote:
>
>> Can you (and maybe some another users) try to replicate what I have
>> described above?
>>
>> 1) konqueror file manager: detailed view, sort the files by date
>> 2) modify and safe one of the shown files (NOT the newest file) with a
>> non-KDE application (or use "touch" at the command line)
>> Q1: Is the date of the file in konqueror updated? [No]
>> 3) Click on the refresh button in konqueror
>> Q2: Is the date of the file in konqueror updated? [Yes]
>> Q3: Is the sort order in konqueror updated? [No]
>> 4) Click again on the refresh button in konqueror
>> Q4: Is the sort order in konqueror updated? [Yes]
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Arne
>
> I can confirm above.
> It is obviously bug that doesn't affect many situations and it not high
> priority. The problem is need for a second click. I can understand that
> they don't want autoupdater to check too many fields, but once you ask for
> refresh it should go all the way, not only to checka current sort
> criteria.
>

Thanks, Rajko, for testing this. I have reported it to the openSUSE bugs
database: https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=236321

Arne