Kmenu too wide

I'm using SUSE 10.0 on my Compaq X1000 Laptop.

After a recent update, my KMenu panel is far wider than it has been, and i
can't figure out how to narrow it. When I click on the menu button, the
panel takes up almost a third of the display width. It works allright, but
I don't care for the extra width. How do I shrink it back?

Thanks, Bob.

Robert Smits adjusted his/her tinfoil beanie to post:

> I'm using SUSE 10.0 on my Compaq X1000 Laptop.
>
> After a recent update, my KMenu panel is far wider than it has been,
> and i can't figure out how to narrow it. When I click on the menu
> button, the panel takes up almost a third of the display width. It
> works allright, but I don't care for the extra width. How do I shrink
> it back?
>
> Thanks, Bob.

Bob,

How does the menu display the names, is it just by application or do you
get a description as well, this can make the menus wide.

This can be turned off in Control Centre>Desktop>Panels>Menus and change
the K Menu item format.

You can also turn off the side image to make it slimmer.

Or is it that the fonts are too big making the menu wider?

This can be adjusted in Appearance & Themes>Fonts>menu.

Does that help?

--
Mark
Twixt hill and high water
N. Wales, UK
Novell Support Forums SysOp

baskitcaise wrote:


> Bob,
>
> How does the menu display the names, is it just by application or do you
> get a description as well, this can make the menus wide.
>

It displays both, but the panel is about 2 1/2 times as wide as the widest
name.

> This can be turned off in Control Centre>Desktop>Panels>Menus and change
> the K Menu item format.
>
> You can also turn off the side image to make it slimmer.
>

Turning it off makes only a small difference.

> Or is it that the fonts are too big making the menu wider?
>
Nope. The fonts are 10 point and not overly large.

> This can be adjusted in Appearance & Themes>Fonts>menu.
>
> Does that help?
>
No, it does not.

Thanks for your help. At least I also have Suse 9.3 install on my desktop to
compare this to.

Bob.

Robert Smits adjusted his/her tinfoil beanie to post:


> No, it does not.

:-(

>
> Thanks for your help. At least I also have Suse 9.3 install on my
> desktop to compare this to.

Bob,

Go back to the menu config in Control Centre>Desktop>Panels and set the
QuickStart Menu Items to 0 ( zero ) and see if that does anything.

I was thinking along the lies that there is an invisible entry somewhere
which is loooooooooooooooong and throwing the whole of the menu size
out, the menus should adapt dynamically to the longest entry and sub
menus the same but if all menus and sub menus show the same width no
matter the length of the items names in the menu then it does not
appear to be auto resizing.

Also you can try and compare the contents of

/home/<user>/.kde/share/config/kickerrc

from 10 and 9.3 if they are both the same KDE version you might spot
something there.


HTH
--
Mark
Twixt hill and high water
N. Wales, UK
Novell Support Forums SysOp

baskitcaise wrote:

> Robert Smits adjusted his/her tinfoil beanie to post:
>
>
>> No, it does not.
>
> :-(
>
>>
>> Thanks for your help. At least I also have Suse 9.3 install on my
>> desktop to compare this to.
>
> Bob,
>
> Go back to the menu config in Control Centre>Desktop>Panels and set the
> QuickStart Menu Items to 0 ( zero ) and see if that does anything.
>

Somehow the Control Centre has ended up in the most used programs list and
whenever it is there it goes really wide. If I adjust the number down to 3
or less the control centre doesn't show up and the width is normal. I can't
seem to delete it from the list, either.

Thanks, Bob

Robert Smits adjusted his/her tinfoil beanie to post:

> Somehow the Control Centre has ended up in the most used programs list
> and whenever it is there it goes really wide. If I adjust the number
> down to 3 or less the control centre doesn't show up and the width is
> normal. I can't seem to delete it from the list, either.
>
> Thanks, Bob

Mmmmm...

Do not see that here Bob and I have my Most Used set to 8 and control
centre is there on all machines ( ??? ) weird.

Have you changed icons/themes/styles or anything like that?

You might be better bugging this on kde.org or searching there to see if
anyone has reported the same thing.

Have you tried as another user to see if it is just something in your
home dir that could be doing this?

What version of KDE are you using, the one that comes with Suse or
3.5.1?

Only I notice that there were newer kdebase files ( and others ) in the
supplementary dirs on the servers yesterday, I installed them through
the apt repos and for me they do seem zippier.

HTH

--
Mark
Twixt hill and high water
N. Wales, UK
Novell Support Forums SysOp

baskitcaise wrote:

> Robert Smits adjusted his/her tinfoil beanie to post:
>
>> Somehow the Control Centre has ended up in the most used programs list
>> and whenever it is there it goes really wide. If I adjust the number
>> down to 3 or less the control centre doesn't show up and the width is
>> normal. I can't seem to delete it from the list, either.
>>
>> Thanks, Bob
>
> Mmmmm...
>
> Do not see that here Bob and I have my Most Used set to 8 and control
> centre is there on all machines ( ??? ) weird.
>
> Have you changed icons/themes/styles or anything like that?
>
> You might be better bugging this on kde.org or searching there to see if
> anyone has reported the same thing.
>
> Have you tried as another user to see if it is just something in your
> home dir that could be doing this?
>
> What version of KDE are you using, the one that comes with Suse or
> 3.5.1?
>
> Only I notice that there were newer kdebase files ( and others ) in the
> supplementary dirs on the servers yesterday, I installed them through
> the apt repos and for me they do seem zippier.
>
> HTH
>


I think I may have found the problem. I have mostly KDE 3.4.2-26 installed,
although I see some 3.5 updates from the supplementary repository. What's
the best way to back level this all to the SUSE 3.4 KDE?

Bob.

Robert Smits adjusted his/her tinfoil beanie to post:


> I think I may have found the problem. I have mostly KDE 3.4.2-26
> installed, although I see some 3.5 updates from the supplementary
> repository. What's the best way to back level this all to the SUSE 3.4
> KDE?
>

Bob,

You /should/ be able to use Yast>software>Software Management, select
the package and in the bottom pane you will see a Versions tab, in
there you might have the older versions listed, select the one you
want, after you have done this to all you *should* be able to just
"Accept" and the older versions will be installed.

Would it not be better to Upgrade to the full 3.5.1 instead of
downgrading though?

Or is that not an option for you?

HTH
--
Mark
Twixt hill and high water
N. Wales, UK
Novell Support Forums SysOp

baskitcaise wrote:

> Robert Smits adjusted his/her tinfoil beanie to post:
>
>
>> I think I may have found the problem. I have mostly KDE 3.4.2-26
>> installed, although I see some 3.5 updates from the supplementary
>> repository. What's the best way to back level this all to the SUSE 3.4
>> KDE?
>>
>
> Bob,
>
> You /should/ be able to use Yast>software>Software Management, select
> the package and in the bottom pane you will see a Versions tab, in
> there you might have the older versions listed, select the one you
> want, after you have done this to all you *should* be able to just
> "Accept" and the older versions will be installed.
>
> Would it not be better to Upgrade to the full 3.5.1 instead of
> downgrading though?
>
> Or is that not an option for you?
>
> HTH

I've tried to update but when it asks for Suse 10.0 CD 1 to be inserted it
doesn't recognize the disk is in the drive. And anyway what's on the DVD
(not CD) is 3.4.2, not 3.5.

(I've installed from the DVD from the January 2006 Linux Magazine)

Bob.

Robert Smits adjusted his/her tinfoil beanie to post:

> I've tried to update but when it asks for Suse 10.0 CD 1 to be
> inserted it doesn't recognize the disk is in the drive. And anyway
> what's on the DVD (not CD) is 3.4.2, not 3.5.
>
> (I've installed from the DVD from the January 2006 Linux Magazine)

Hi Bob,

You need to change the source for the installation and point to an ftp
server that holds the 3.5.1 rpms if you have a fast connection that is
as there must be quite a few 100megs of stuff if you do a full KDE
update ( apps and all not just the base ) or you can d/load manually
into a nw dir all the files and install using those locally.

Here is a page that give info on how to update online:

http://desktoplinux.com/articles/AT8795467710.html

There are more docs on Novell and Opensuse on how to do this but I find
it hard to find the right page with a quick search, between you, me,
and the gatepost I do mot like the Novell site search as it is very
hard to narrow down the crieria, my personal comment though :-)

Plus I use apt for all my extra software as I am mostly 64bit here and
some stuff is just not available to me through the Yast sources.

HTH
--
Mark
Twixt hill and high water
N. Wales, UK
Novell Support Forums SysOp