Log out menu entry freezes KDE

An annoying problem with suse 10.0 and kde 3.5.1 (with all the latest
updates):
In a vaio laptop, often when I press Log Out and brings up the choice menu
and I select Shutdown, the machine starts do so (closes the dialog) but
then does no shut down.
Trying to click again the same K menu entry to log out, does nothing (mouse
working fine, but no way to exit kde) so I have resorted to
ctr-alt-backspace to exit X, then log as root and finaly shutdown from the
command line.
I am not sure this is the ideal way of doing it, but what else can I do?
It has happened several times.

Thanks for any suggestions,

-G-

-G- adjusted his/her tinfoil beanie to post:

> An annoying problem with suse 10.0 and kde 3.5.1 (with all the latest
> updates):
> In a vaio laptop, often when I press Log Out and brings up the choice
> menu and I select Shutdown, the machine starts do so (closes the
> dialog) but then does no shut down.
> Trying to click again the same K menu entry to log out, does nothing
> (mouse working fine, but no way to exit kde) so I have resorted to
> ctr-alt-backspace to exit X, then log as root and finaly shutdown from
> the command line.
> I am not sure this is the ideal way of doing it, but what else can I
> do? It has happened several times.
>
> Thanks for any suggestions,
>
> -G-

Hi G,

Have a look in your .xsession-errors file in your /home/<username> dir
and see if something is crashing during logout.

What do you have running in the tray when you log out?

Here if I try and logout with akregator running I get a crash dialog
( this is a known bug on KDE ) maybe you are getting an app crash but
the dialog is not showing.

Try right clicking each running app in the tray and quit manually and
see if you get a crash dialog or quit one then try and logout if it
still hangs then reset the X server and try another app till you find
the one that is causing the hang ( if it shows up )

Or have a look in the file in /var/log/messages and see if anything is
printed there that might give you a clue to what is hanging the system,
obviously this is not a system hang but some app is causing problems
with KDE.

HTH

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Mark
Twixt hill and high water
N. Wales, UK
Novell Support Forums SysOp

baskitcaise wrote:

> Have a look in your .xsession-errors file in your /home/<username> dir
> and see if something is crashing during logout.
>
> What do you have running in the tray when you log out?

klipper, kinternet, kpowersave, kmix, susewatcher, kshowmail (the most
likely to crash) and the korganizer daemo,

> Here if I try and logout with akregator running I get a crash dialog
> ( this is a known bug on KDE ) maybe you are getting an app crash but
> the dialog is not showing.
>
> Try right clicking each running app in the tray and quit manually and
> see if you get a crash dialog or quit one then try and logout if it
> still hangs then reset the X server and try another app till you find
> the one that is causing the hang ( if it shows up )

I will try these and post back.
Many thanks for the suggestions.

Cheers,

-G-

-G- adjusted his/her tinfoil beanie to post:

> baskitcaise wrote:
>
>> Have a look in your .xsession-errors file in your /home/<username>
>> dir and see if something is crashing during logout.
>>
>> What do you have running in the tray when you log out?
>
> klipper, kinternet, kpowersave, kmix, susewatcher, kshowmail (the most
> likely to crash) and the korganizer daemo,

<mini boast>

I have klipper, akregator, kmail, kwifimanager, kboicspy, superkaramba,
keyman ( special keyboard applet for the Cherry Cymotion Linux
keyboard ), kwallet, kbluetooth, kget.

Now of these I know definitely that akregator causes a crash whether I
manually close or leave it running on logout, I sometimes ( not very
often ) get another quick crash on logout and I think it is caused by
the kmail applet but am not 100% sure, it happens so rarely that I have
not looked into it yet, I cannot test by trial and error on this one as
it is not reproducible 100% of the time.

However I also have a truck load of applets in a child bar on top of my
screen so it could be anyone of those as well ( 2 mixers, one for each
soundcard, Kweather, binary clock, keyboard status, online dictionary,
kpager2, solseek ) I am a sucker for eyecandy :-)

+ xplanet as an animated backdrop, gkrellm and a couple of superkaramba
things.

</mini boast>


> I will try these and post back.
> Many thanks for the suggestions.
>
> Cheers,
>

No probs, keep us posted.


--
Mark
Twixt hill and high water
N. Wales, UK
Novell Support Forums SysOp

baskitcaise wrote:
> No probs, keep us posted.

It seems that it was kshowmail after all :-/

I like kshowmail because it allows me to delete manually messages in my work
mail server remotely when I am away.
Unfortunately kmail does not let me download the headers to then delete some
and download others. One can delete the mail after download, or set to not
download (using the filter option), but not to delete without downloading
(or at least I have not found the way to do so).

I asked for this functionality to be added, but it has not been implemented
(before anybody suggests it, no, I am not knowledgable enough to submitt a
patch).

Kshowmail seems not to be maintained anymore and so I am using the version
for 9.x (which still works fine) but seems to crash when quitting.

Cheers,

-G-

-G- adjusted his/her tinfoil beanie to post:

> baskitcaise wrote:
>> No probs, keep us posted.
>
> It seems that it was kshowmail after all :-/
>

Thanks for the feedback G


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Mark
Twixt hill and high water
N. Wales, UK
Novell Support Forums SysOp