Re: SuSE 9.2 freezes from time to time

Marc Spisländer adjusted his/her tin foil beanie and asbestos
underwear
to write:

> Hello,
>
> I use SuSE 9.2 and I'm desperate. From time to
> time (I guess every 15 hours) the system freezes:
> Mouse, keyboard, applications, they all become
> inactive.
>
> Does anybody known where I might look for the
> source of my problem? Which log files should I
> inspect? /var/log/message says nothing relevant.
>
> My mainboard is a MSI K7N2G. It has a nforce2 chip
> set and a promise raind controller on board.
>
> Thank you very much,
> Marc

Is the timing "every 15 hours" or just somewhere about there, reason
is
if it is spot on every 15 then you might have a cron job setup ( not
likely but just a thought )

You could have a look at .xsession-errors in your home dir or the
other
log files in:-

/var/log/faillog
/var/log/warn

etc....

one way of monitoring it is to have top running and see if anything is

eating your memory up slowly and reaches a peak at around 15 hours and

the machine locks.

Or have gkrellm running and keep an eye on your mem and procs in
realtime to see if anything is multiplying.

Are you using the raid controller?

How are you off for disk space?

Are there any "large" log files that could be filling up your drive?

Just a couple of things for you to look at

--
Mark
Novell Support Forums SysOp
Twixt hill and high water
N. Wales, UK.

Hi and thank you very much for answering,

well, "every 15 hours" was just an approximation.

Memory usage seems to be ok. I use a real-time
memory monitor. According to it my memory is full
used for caching.

Disk space is ok, too: 10% free, that is 10GB.

I have to use the promise controller. I do it
through the sata_promise kernel module.

I will start now inspecting the log files
mentioned by you.

Thank you,
Marc

baskitcaise wrote:

> Marc Spisländer adjusted his/her tin foil beanie
> and asbestos underwear to write:
>
>> Hello,
>>
>> I use SuSE 9.2 and I'm desperate. From time to
>> time (I guess every 15 hours) the system
>> freezes: Mouse, keyboard, applications, they
>> all become inactive.
>>
>> Does anybody known where I might look for the
>> source of my problem? Which log files should I
>> inspect? /var/log/message says nothing
>> relevant.
>>
>> My mainboard is a MSI K7N2G. It has a nforce2
>> chip set and a promise raind controller on
>> board.
>>
>> Thank you very much,
>> Marc
>
> Is the timing "every 15 hours" or just somewhere
> about there, reason is if it is spot on every 15
> then you might have a cron job setup ( not
> likely but just a thought )
>
> You could have a look at .xsession-errors in
> your home dir or the other log files in:-
>
> /var/log/faillog
> /var/log/warn
>
> etc....
>
> one way of monitoring it is to have top running
> and see if anything is eating your memory up
> slowly and reaches a peak at around 15 hours and
> the machine locks.
>
> Or have gkrellm running and keep an eye on your
> mem and procs in realtime to see if anything is
> multiplying.
>
> Are you using the raid controller?
>
> How are you off for disk space?
>
> Are there any "large" log files that could be
> filling up your drive?
>
> Just a couple of things for you to look at
>

Marc Spisländer adjusted his/her tin foil beanie and asbestos
underwear
to write:

> Hi and thank you very much for answering,
>
> well, "every 15 hours" was just an approximation.
>
> Memory usage seems to be ok. I use a real-time
> memory monitor. According to it my memory is full
> used for caching.
>
> Disk space is ok, too: 10% free, that is 10GB.
>
> I have to use the promise controller. I do it
> through the sata_promise kernel module.
>
> I will start now inspecting the log files
> mentioned by you.

I will gone for a while but back later this afternoon (GMT)

If you have any probs just holler.

--
Mark
Novell Support Forums SysOp
Twixt hill and high water
N. Wales, UK.

hello,

I remarked something very strange. When I play the
KDE game KBounds, the system freezes very soon.
Even if I pause the game and do other works.
After a few minutes everything freeze.

The /var/log/* files contain nothing important to
my problem. :-(

By,
Marc

baskitcaise wrote:

> Marc Spisländer adjusted his/her tin foil beanie
> and asbestos underwear to write:
>
>> Hi and thank you very much for answering,
>>
>> well, "every 15 hours" was just an
>> approximation.
>>
>> Memory usage seems to be ok. I use a real-time
>> memory monitor. According to it my memory is
>> full used for caching.
>>
>> Disk space is ok, too: 10% free, that is 10GB.
>>
>> I have to use the promise controller. I do it
>> through the sata_promise kernel module.
>>
>> I will start now inspecting the log files
>> mentioned by you.
>
> I will gone for a while but back later this
> afternoon (GMT)
>
> If you have any probs just holler.
>

Marc Spisländer adjusted his/her tin foil beanie and asbestos
underwear
to write:

> hello,
>
> I remarked something very strange. When I play the
> KDE game KBounds, the system freezes very soon.
> Even if I pause the game and do other works.
> After a few minutes everything freeze.
>
> The /var/log/* files contain nothing important to
> my problem. :-(

Anything in the .xsession-errors log file in your home dir?

A good way of monitoring the log files of your choice is to have
kwatch
running ( should be in System>Monitor>Kwatch menu ) this little app
monitors multiple files of your choice in near real time, so you can
have the window open and see if any messages come up, you could of
course use ktail and others but this one is the pretty easy to set upand have running.

HTH

--
Mark
Novell Support Forums SysOp
Twixt hill and high water
N. Wales, UK.

I started kwatch and monitored the log files.
Unfortunately without success.

But take a look to this funny thing. After my
machine freezed I could log in to it through ssh
from another computer (c2). I could reboot my
broken server. Than I logged in again through ssh
-X and started kbounce (this is the right name of
the game) on the server but with the X output on
c2. After a while (2-3 min.) the server crashed
totally. It is definitely on account of the game
because without it I can use my server for hours.

I have on the server a nvidia card. But this
shouldn't be important as long as the X output is
done on another computer?!

So, very strange things happen. A simple game
(without any 3D accel.) can destroy my whole
system.

Anyway, thank you very much for your effort.

baskitcaise wrote:

> Marc Spisländer adjusted his/her tin foil beanie
> and asbestos underwear to write:
>
>> hello,
>>
>> I remarked something very strange. When I play
>> the KDE game KBounds, the system freezes very
>> soon. Even if I pause the game and do other
>> works. After a few minutes everything freeze.
>>
>> The /var/log/* files contain nothing important
>> to my problem. :-(
>
> Anything in the .xsession-errors log file in
> your home dir?
>
> A good way of monitoring the log files of your
> choice is to have kwatch running ( should be in
> System>Monitor>Kwatch menu ) this little app
> monitors multiple files of your choice in near
> real time, so you can have the window open and
> see if any messages come up, you could of course
> use ktail and others but this one is the pretty
> easy to set up and have running.
>
> HTH
>

Marc Spisländer adjusted his/her tin foil beanie and asbestos
underwear
to write:

>
> I started kwatch and monitored the log files.
> Unfortunately without success.
>
> But take a look to this funny thing. After my
> machine freezed I could log in to it through ssh
> from another computer (c2). I could reboot my
> broken server. Than I logged in again through ssh
> -X and started kbounce (this is the right name of
> the game) on the server but with the X output on
> c2. After a while (2-3 min.) the server crashed
> totally. It is definitely on account of the game
> because without it I can use my server for hours.
>
> I have on the server a nvidia card. But this
> shouldn't be important as long as the X output is
> done on another computer?!
>
> So, very strange things happen. A simple game
> (without any 3D accel.) can destroy my whole
> system.
>
> Anyway, thank you very much for your effort.
>


I have not played that game, will give it a go if I can find it, it
might be a bug in the game.

If I find anything wrong with it I will let you know.

Take care.

--
Mark
Novell Support Forums SysOp
Twixt hill and high water
N. Wales, UK.

It is a very simple game. On my second computer I
get no problem. That's not a positive thing about
Linux/SuSE, if a simple application can kill a
whole system :-( .

I think I will post another message specially for
the problem with the game. But I want to do
another test before.

Thanks,
Marc

baskitcaise wrote:

> Marc Spisländer adjusted his/her tin foil beanie
> and asbestos underwear to write:
>
>>
>> I started kwatch and monitored the log files.
>> Unfortunately without success.
>>
>> But take a look to this funny thing. After my
>> machine freezed I could log in to it through
>> ssh from another computer (c2). I could reboot
>> my broken server. Than I logged in again
>> through ssh -X and started kbounce (this is the
>> right name of the game) on the server but with
>> the X output on c2. After a while (2-3 min.)
>> the server crashed totally. It is definitely on
>> account of the game because without it I can
>> use my server for hours.
>>
>> I have on the server a nvidia card. But this
>> shouldn't be important as long as the X output
>> is done on another computer?!
>>
>> So, very strange things happen. A simple game
>> (without any 3D accel.) can destroy my whole
>> system.
>>
>> Anyway, thank you very much for your effort.
>>
>
>
> I have not played that game, will give it a go
> if I can find it, it might be a bug in the game.
>
> If I find anything wrong with it I will let you
> know.
>
> Take care.
>

Compiling the kernel didn't help. :-( And
Slackware crashes, too. I guess I have a hardware
problem. But running memtest for a couple of
hours showed no errors.

baskitcaise wrote:

> Marc Spisländer adjusted his/her tin foil beanie
> and asbestos underwear to write:
>
>>
>> I started kwatch and monitored the log files.
>> Unfortunately without success.
>>
>> But take a look to this funny thing. After my
>> machine freezed I could log in to it through
>> ssh from another computer (c2). I could reboot
>> my broken server. Than I logged in again
>> through ssh -X and started kbounce (this is the
>> right name of the game) on the server but with
>> the X output on c2. After a while (2-3 min.)
>> the server crashed totally. It is definitely on
>> account of the game because without it I can
>> use my server for hours.
>>
>> I have on the server a nvidia card. But this
>> shouldn't be important as long as the X output
>> is done on another computer?!
>>
>> So, very strange things happen. A simple game
>> (without any 3D accel.) can destroy my whole
>> system.
>>
>> Anyway, thank you very much for your effort.
>>
>
>
> I have not played that game, will give it a go
> if I can find it, it might be a bug in the game.
>
> If I find anything wrong with it I will let you
> know.
>
> Take care.
>

Marc Spisländer adjusted his/her tin foil beanie and asbestos
underwear
to write:

>
> Compiling the kernel didn't help. :-( And
> Slackware crashes, too. I guess I have a hardware
> problem. But running memtest for a couple of
> hours showed no errors.
>
Another thought:

I suppose you could try running kbounce using strace and piping the
output to a file, however it might get quite large if it runs for anyconsiderable time.


--
Mark
Novell Support Forums SysOp
Twixt hill and high water
N. Wales, UK.