Re: Keyboard randomly freezes in X11

anandrajan@gmail.com adjusted his/her tin foil beanie and asbestos
underwear to write:


> Since mid January, I've been experiencing random keyboard and screen

> freezes in X11. The mouse continues to work and I can move it around

> but I can't click anything. The keyboard does not work anymore and
so
> I can't switch to a VC and kill X. Instead, I have a nearby laptop
> which is used to kill X. Since kdm is running, it restarts X and I'm

> back in business until the next freeze. Note that X doesn't actually

> crash. It starts eating up more and more of the CPU while the
keyboard
> and screen remain unresponsive.
>
> The only messages that I see in /var/log/messages are stuff like
>
> NVRM: Xid: 3, C 0000001e SC 00000000 M 00000180 Data 31415928
>
> There are no errors in the X log file. When I try to use sax to
> reconfigure the card, I get freezes there as well but it works
> sometimes.

Have a look in /var/log/xorg.log and see if there are any error
messages
when it tries to load the GLX extension.

Also rename your XF86config in /etc/X11/ and make a symlink with the
same name that points to xorg.conf in the same dir, that way if you
use
sax2 or Yast you will be sure that the right one is altered.

I found that what was happening was that sax2 was writing to the wrong

config and the GLX was not getting enabled even though the Nvidia wasloading, you might have to mess with the agpgart stuff as well but see

how you get on with the above first first.

HTH


--
Mark
Novell Support Forums SysOp
Twixt hill and high water
N. Wales, UK.

> anandrajan@gmail.com adjusted his/her tin foil beanie and asbestos
> underwear to write:
>
>
> >
> >
> > The only messages that I see in /var/log/messages are stuff like
> >
> > NVRM: Xid: 3, C 0000001e SC 00000000 M 00000180 Data 31415928
> >
> > There are no errors in the X log file. When I try to use sax to
> > reconfigure the card, I get freezes there as well but it works
> > sometimes.
>
> Have a look in /var/log/xorg.log and see if there are any error
messages
> when it tries to load the GLX extension.

Nope, no errors related to GLX.

>
> Also rename your XF86config in /etc/X11/ and make a symlink with the

> same name that points to xorg.conf in the same dir, that way if you
use
> sax2 or Yast you will be sure that the right one is altered.

Already done. This is how it's been running for a few months now.

>
> I found that what was happening was that sax2 was writing to the
wrong
> config and the GLX was not getting enabled even though the Nvidia
was
> loading, you might have to mess with the agpgart stuff as well but
see
> how you get on with the above first first.

agpgart loads as expected. I tried setting "NvAGP" "0" to see if this
helps
but no it doesn't. Also, I tried not loading "glx" but this doesn't
help
either.

I've attached portions of my /var/log/Xorg.0.log file.

Thanks for the fast response.

Anand


>
> HTH
>
>
> --
> Mark
> Novell Support Forums SysOp
> Twixt hill and high water
> N. Wales, UK.
>

Portions of /var/log/Xorg.0.log
----------------------------------------------------------------------

X Window System Version 6.8.2
Release Date: 9 February 2005
X Protocol Version 11, Revision 0, Release 6.8.2
Build Operating System: SuSE Linux [ELF] SuSE
Current Operating System: Linux agape-server 2.6.8-24.13-default #1
Fri Mar
18 1
0:19:42 UTC 2005 i686
Build Date: 11 February 2005
Before reporting problems, check http://wiki.X.Org
to make sure that you have the latest version.
Module Loader present
Markers: (--) probed, (**) from config file, (==) default setting,
(++) from command line, (!!) notice, (II) informational,
(WW) warning, (EE) error, (NI) not implemented, (??) unknown.(==) Log file: "/var/log/Xorg.0.log", Time: Fri Mar 25 10:01:56 2005
(==) Using config file: "/etc/X11/xorg.conf"
(==) ServerLayout "Layout[all]"
(**) |-->Screen "Screen[0]" (0)
(**) | |-->Monitor "SyncMaster 172T"
(**) | |-->Device "Device[0]"
(**) |-->Input Device "Keyboard[0]"
(**) |-->Input Device "Mouse[1]"
(**) FontPath set to
"/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/misc:unscaled,/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi:unscaled,/usr/X11R6/

lib/X11/fonts/100dpi:unscaled,/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Type1,/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/URW,/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fon

ts/cyrillic,/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/truetype,/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/uni:unscaled,/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/mis

c/sgi:unscaled,/opt/kde3/share/fonts"
(==) RgbPath set to "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/rgb"
(**) Input device list set to
"/dev/ttyS0,/dev/ttyS1,/dev/ttyS2,/dev/ttyS3,/dev/ttyS4,/dev/ttyS5,/dev/ttyS6,/dev

/ttyS7,/dev/ttyS8,/dev/psaux,/dev/logibm,/dev/sunmouse,/dev/atibm,/dev/amigamouse,/dev/atarimouse,/dev/inportbm,

/dev/gpmdata,/dev/mouse,/dev/usbmouse,/dev/adbmouse,/dev/input/mice,/dev/input/event0,/dev/pointer0,/dev/pointer

1,/dev/pointer2,/dev/pointer3"
(==) ModulePath set to "/usr/X11R6/lib/modules"
(**) Option "AllowMouseOpenFail"
(**) Option "Xinerama" "off"
(**) Option "RandR" "on"
(WW) Open APM failed (/dev/apm_bios) (No such device)
(II) Module ABI versions:
X.Org ANSI C Emulation: 0.2
X.Org Video Driver: 0.7
X.Org XInput driver : 0.4
X.Org Server Extension : 0.2
X.Org Font Renderer : 0.4
(II) Loader running on linux
(II) LoadModule: "bitmap"
(II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/fonts/libbitmap.a
(II) Module bitmap: vendor="X.Org Foundation"
compiled for 6.8.2, module version = 1.0.0
Module class: X.Org Font Renderer
ABI class: X.Org Font Renderer, version 0.4
(II) Loading font Bitmap
(II) LoadModule: "pcidata"
(II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/libpcidata.a
(II) Module pcidata: vendor="X.Org Foundation"
compiled for 6.8.2, module version = 1.0.0
ABI class: X.Org Video Driver, version 0.7
(++) using VT number 7

PCI scan stuff deleted.


(II) LoadModule: "type1"
(II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/fonts/libtype1.a
(II) Module type1: vendor="X.Org Foundation"
compiled for 6.8.2, module version = 1.0.2
Module class: X.Org Font Renderer
ABI class: X.Org Font Renderer, version 0.4
(II) Loading font Type1
(II) Loading font CID
(II) LoadModule: "dbe"
(II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/extensions/libdbe.a
(II) Module dbe: vendor="X.Org Foundation"
compiled for 6.8.2, module version = 1.0.0
Module class: X.Org Server Extension
ABI class: X.Org Server Extension, version 0.2
(II) Loading extension DOUBLE-BUFFER
(II) LoadModule: "freetype"
(II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/fonts/libfreetype.so
(II) Module freetype: vendor="X.Org Foundation & the After X-TT
Project"
compiled for 6.8.2, module version = 2.1.0
Module class: X.Org Font Renderer
ABI class: X.Org Font Renderer, version 0.4
(II) Loading font FreeType
(II) LoadModule: "glx"
(II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/extensions/libglx.so
(II) Module glx: vendor="NVIDIA Corporation"
compiled for 4.0.2, module version = 1.0.7167
Module class: XFree86 Server Extension
ABI class: XFree86 Server Extension, version 0.1
(II) Loading extension GLX
(II) LoadModule: "v4l"
(II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/drivers/linux/v4l_drv.o
(II) Module v4l: vendor="X.Org Foundation"
compiled for 6.8.2, module version = 0.0.1
ABI class: X.Org Video Driver, version 0.7
(II) LoadModule: "extmod"
(II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/extensions/libextmod.a
(II) Module extmod: vendor="X.Org Foundation"
compiled for 6.8.2, module version = 1.0.0
Module class: X.Org Server Extension
ABI class: X.Org Server Extension, version 0.2
(II) Loading extension SHAPE
(II) Loading extension MIT-SUNDRY-NONSTANDARD
(II) Loading extension BIG-REQUESTS
(II) Loading extension SYNC
(II) Loading extension MIT-SCREEN-SAVER
(II) Loading extension XC-MISC
(II) Loading extension XFree86-VidModeExtension
(II) Loading extension XFree86-Misc
(II) Loading extension XFree86-DGA
(II) Loading extension DPMS
(II) Loading extension TOG-CUP
(II) Loading extension Extended-Visual-Information
(II) Loading extension XVideo
(II) Loading extension XVideo-MotionCompensation
(II) Loading extension X-Resource
(II) LoadModule: "nvidia"
(II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/drivers/nvidia_drv.o
(II) Module nvidia: vendor="NVIDIA Corporation"
compiled for 4.0.2, module version = 1.0.7167
Module class: XFree86 Video Driver
(II) LoadModule: "kbd"
(II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/input/kbd_drv.o
(II) Module kbd: vendor="X.Org Foundation"
compiled for 6.8.2, module version = 1.0.0
Module class: X.Org XInput Driver
ABI class: X.Org XInput driver, version 0.4
(II) LoadModule: "mouse"
(II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/input/mouse_drv.o
(II) Module mouse: vendor="X.Org Foundation"
compiled for 6.8.2, module version = 1.0.0
Module class: X.Org XInput Driver
ABI class: X.Org XInput driver, version 0.4
(II) v4l driver for Video4Linux
(II) NVIDIA X Driver 1.0-7167 Fri Feb 25 09:10:21 PST 2005
(II) NVIDIA Unified Driver for all NVIDIA GPUs
(II) Primary Device is: PCI 01:05:0
(--) Assigning device section with no busID to primary device
(--) Chipset NVIDIA GPU found

(II) Setting vga for screen 0.
(**) NVIDIA(0): Depth 24, (--) framebuffer bpp 32
(==) NVIDIA(0): RGB weight 888
(==) NVIDIA(0): Default visual is TrueColor
(==) NVIDIA(0): Using gamma correction (1.0, 1.0, 1.0)
(--) NVIDIA(0): Linear framebuffer at 0xF0000000
(--) NVIDIA(0): MMIO registers at 0xE9000000
(II) NVIDIA(0): NVIDIA GPU detected as: GeForce4 Ti 4200 with AGP8X
(--) NVIDIA(0): VideoBIOS: 04.28.20.21.00
(--) NVIDIA(0): Interlaced video modes are supported on this GPU
(II) NVIDIA(0): Detected AGP rate: 4X
(--) NVIDIA(0): VideoRAM: 131072 kBytes
(II) NVIDIA(0): Connected display device(s): DFP-0
(--) NVIDIA(0): Display device DFP-0: maximum pixel clock at 8 bpp:
350 MHz
(--) NVIDIA(0): Display device DFP-0: maximum pixel clock at 16 bpp:
350 MHz
(--) NVIDIA(0): Display device DFP-0: maximum pixel clock at 32 bpp:
350 MHz
(II) Loading sub module "ddc"
(II) LoadModule: "ddc"
(II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/libddc.a
(II) Module ddc: vendor="X.Org Foundation"
compiled for 6.8.2, module version = 1.0.0
ABI class: X.Org Video Driver, version 0.7
(WW) NVIDIA(0): The user specified HorizSync "31.000-82.000" has been
adjusted
(WW) NVIDIA(0): to "31.000-81.000" (the intersection with
EDID-specified
(WW) NVIDIA(0): HorizSync "30.000-81.000")
(II) NVIDIA(0): SyncMaster 172T: Using hsync range of 31.00-81.00 kHz(II) NVIDIA(0): SyncMaster 172T: Using vrefresh range of 58.00-75.00
Hz
(II) NVIDIA(0): Clock range: 12.00 to 350.00 MHz

(WW) (1600x1200,SyncMaster 172T) mode clock 162MHz exceeds DDC maximum
140MHz
(WW) (1600x1200,SyncMaster 172T) mode clock 175.5MHz exceeds DDC
maximum 140MHz

(WW) (1400x1050,SyncMaster 172T) mode clock 155.8MHz exceeds DDC
maximum 140MHz

(**) NVIDIA(0): Validated modes for display device DFP-0:
(**) NVIDIA(0): Mode "1280x1024": 134.7 MHz, 78.0 kHz, 73.0 Hz
(**) NVIDIA(0): Mode "1152x870": 102.8 MHz, 66.2 kHz, 73.0 Hz
(**) NVIDIA(0): Mode "1024x768": 79.5 MHz, 58.5 kHz, 73.0 Hz
(**) NVIDIA(0): Mode "800x600": 47.5 MHz, 45.7 kHz, 73.0 Hz
(**) NVIDIA(0): Mode "640x480": 29.8 MHz, 36.6 kHz, 73.0 Hz
(**) NVIDIA(0): Default mode "1280x960": 108.0 MHz, 60.0 kHz,
60.0 Hz
(**) NVIDIA(0): Mode "1152x870": 87.3 MHz, 56.8 kHz, 63.0 Hz
(**) NVIDIA(0): Default mode "1152x864": 108.0 MHz, 67.5 kHz,
75.0 Hz
(**) NVIDIA(0): Mode "1024x768": 67.5 MHz, 50.2 kHz, 63.0 Hz
(**) NVIDIA(0): Default mode "832x624": 57.3 MHz, 49.7 kHz, 74.6
Hz
(**) NVIDIA(0): Mode "800x600": 40.2 MHz, 39.2 kHz, 63.0 Hz
(**) NVIDIA(0): Default mode "640x512": 67.5 MHz, 80.0 kHz, 75.0
Hz (D)
(**) NVIDIA(0): Default mode "640x512": 54.0 MHz, 64.0 kHz, 60.0
Hz (D)
(**) NVIDIA(0): Mode "640x480": 25.1 MHz, 31.4 kHz, 63.0 Hz
(**) NVIDIA(0): Default mode "576x432": 54.0 MHz, 67.5 kHz, 75.0
Hz (D)
(**) NVIDIA(0): Default mode "512x384": 39.4 MHz, 60.1 kHz, 75.1
Hz (D)
(**) NVIDIA(0): Default mode "512x384": 37.5 MHz, 56.5 kHz, 70.1
Hz (D)
(**) NVIDIA(0): Default mode "512x384": 32.5 MHz, 48.4 kHz, 60.0
Hz (D)
(**) NVIDIA(0): Default mode "416x312": 28.6 MHz, 49.7 kHz, 74.7
Hz (D)
(**) NVIDIA(0): Default mode "400x300": 24.8 MHz, 46.9 kHz, 75.1
Hz (D)
(**) NVIDIA(0): Default mode "400x300": 25.0 MHz, 48.1 kHz, 72.2
Hz (D)
(**) NVIDIA(0): Default mode "400x300": 20.0 MHz, 37.9 kHz, 60.3
Hz (D)
(**) NVIDIA(0): Default mode "320x240": 15.8 MHz, 37.5 kHz, 75.0
Hz (D)
(**) NVIDIA(0): Default mode "320x240": 15.8 MHz, 37.9 kHz, 72.8
Hz (D)
(**) NVIDIA(0): Default mode "320x240": 12.6 MHz, 31.5 kHz, 60.1
Hz (D)
(II) NVIDIA(0): Virtual screen size determined to be 1280 x 1024
(**) NVIDIA(0): Display dimensions: (320, 240) mm
(WW) NVIDIA(0): Probed monitor is 340x270 mm, using Displaysize
320x240 mm
(**) NVIDIA(0): DPI set to (101, 108)
(II) Loading sub module "fb"
(II) LoadModule: "fb"
(II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/libfb.a
Skipping "/usr/X11R6/lib/modules/libfb.a:fbmmx.o": No symbols found
(II) Module fb: vendor="X.Org Foundation"
compiled for 6.8.2, module version = 1.0.0
ABI class: X.Org ANSI C Emulation, version 0.2
(II) Loading sub module "ramdac"
(II) LoadModule: "ramdac"
(II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/libramdac.a
(II) Module ramdac: vendor="X.Org Foundation"
compiled for 6.8.2, module version = 0.1.0
ABI class: X.Org Video Driver, version 0.7
(--) Depth 24 pixmap format is 32 bpp
(II) do I need RAC? No, I don't.

(II) NVIDIA(0): Setting mode "1280x1024"
(II) Loading extension NV-GLX
(II) NVIDIA(0): NVIDIA 3D Acceleration Architecture Initialized
(II) NVIDIA(0): Using the NVIDIA 2D acceleration architecture
(==) NVIDIA(0): Backing store disabled
(==) NVIDIA(0): Silken mouse enabled
(**) Option "dpms"
(**) NVIDIA(0): DPMS enabled
(II) Loading extension NV-CONTROL
(WW) NVIDIA(0): Option "Rotate" is not used
(WW) NVIDIA(0): Option "CalcAlgorithm" is not used
(**) RandR enabled
(II) Initializing built-in extension MIT-SHM
(II) Initializing built-in extension XInputExtension
(II) Initializing built-in extension XTEST
(II) Initializing built-in extension XKEYBOARD
(II) Initializing built-in extension LBX
(II) Initializing built-in extension XC-APPGROUP
(II) Initializing built-in extension SECURITY
(II) Initializing built-in extension XINERAMA
(II) Initializing built-in extension XFIXES
(II) Initializing built-in extension XFree86-Bigfont
(II) Initializing built-in extension RENDER
(II) Initializing built-in extension RANDR
(II) Initializing built-in extension COMPOSITE
(II) Initializing built-in extension DAMAGE
(II) Initializing built-in extension XEVIE
(II) Initializing extension GLX
(**) Option "CoreKeyboard"
(**) Keyboard[0]: Core Keyboard
(**) Option "Protocol" "Standard"
(**) Keyboard[0]: Protocol: Standard
(**) Option "AutoRepeat" "500 30"
(**) Option "XkbRules" "xfree86"
(**) Keyboard[0]: XkbRules: "xfree86"
(**) Option "XkbModel" "pc104"
(**) Keyboard[0]: XkbModel: "pc104"
(**) Option "XkbLayout" "us"
(**) Keyboard[0]: XkbLayout: "us"
(**) Option "CustomKeycodes" "off"
(**) Keyboard[0]: CustomKeycodes disabled
(**) Option "Protocol" "explorerps/2"
(**) Mouse[1]: Device: "/dev/input/mice"
(**) Mouse[1]: Protocol: "explorerps/2"
(**) Option "CorePointer"
(**) Mouse[1]: Core Pointer
(**) Option "Device" "/dev/input/mice"
(**) Option "Buttons" "7"
(==) Mouse[1]: Emulate3Buttons, Emulate3Timeout: 50
(**) Option "ZAxisMapping" "4 5"
(**) Mouse[1]: ZAxisMapping: buttons 4 and 5
(**) Mouse[1]: Buttons: 7
(II) XINPUT: Adding extended input device "Mouse[1]" (type: MOUSE)
(II) XINPUT: Adding extended input device "Keyboard[0]" (type:
KEYBOARD)
(II) XINPUT: Adding extended input device "NVIDIA Event Handler"
(type: Other)
(II) Mouse[1]: ps2EnableDataReporting: succeeded

anandrajan@gmail.com adjusted his/her tin foil beanie and asbestos
underwear to write:


> agpgart loads as expected. I tried setting "NvAGP" "0" to see if
this
> helps but no it doesn't. Also, I tried not loading "glx" but this
> doesn't help either.
>
> I've attached portions of my /var/log/Xorg.0.log file.
>
> Thanks for the fast response.
>
> Anand
>

Well that looks ok to me, I cannot think of anything else that I did
to
cure my crashes at the same time except update KDE, I had been running

the beta of 3.4 for a while and went to the full release.

Those errors used to show when running my TV card and the machine
would
lock, but this was down to the wrong X config file being read and GLXnot getting initialised. I also had to modprobe the TV card module
in /etc/init.d/boot.local as udevd was messing it up.

Ah, also I recompiled a 2.6.11 kernel ( used the source from one of
the
"Kernel of The Days" ) to make it an Athlon 64bit specific with
pre-empt and took out the rivafb + some other non essential stuff.

Other than keeping everything upto date with apt I cannot think of
anything else.

Since doing all the above this machine has been absolutely rock solid24/7 @ 100% ( except for one crash which was not terminal and was down

to me messing )

I wonder if you might get any joy going over to the smp kernel even
though you only have 1 CPU, it could be down to some timings or
something.

If I remember anything else that might have an affect I will post
again.

HTH

--
Mark
Novell Support Forums SysOp
Twixt hill and high water
N. Wales, UK.

> anandrajan@gmail.com adjusted his/her tin foil beanie and asbestos
> underwear to write:
>
>
> > agpgart loads as expected. I tried setting "NvAGP" "0" to see if
this
> > helps but no it doesn't. Also, I tried not loading "glx" but this> > doesn't help either.
> >
> > I've attached portions of my /var/log/Xorg.0.log file.
> >
> > Thanks for the fast response.
> >
> > Anand
> >
>
> Well that looks ok to me, I cannot think of anything else that I did
to
> cure my crashes at the same time except update KDE, I had been
running
> the beta of 3.4 for a while and went to the full release.

This is not a KDE issue. I get keyboard freezes in twm, enlightenment,

gnome and xfce.

>

> Ah, also I recompiled a 2.6.11 kernel ( used the source from one of
the
> "Kernel of The Days" ) to make it an Athlon 64bit specific with
> pre-empt and took out the rivafb + some other non essential stuff.
>

> I wonder if you might get any joy going over to the smp kernel even> though you only have 1 CPU, it could be down to some timings or
> something.

I'm running the smp kernel now, thanks for the suggestion, No joy
since I
see keyboard freezes here as well.


Anand


>
> If I remember anything else that might have an affect I will post
again.
>
> HTH
>
> --
> Mark
> Novell Support Forums SysOp
> Twixt hill and high water
> N. Wales, UK.
>

anandrajan@gmail.com adjusted his/her tin foil beanie and asbestos
underwear to write:

>> anandrajan@gmail.com adjusted his/her tin foil beanie and asbestos>> underwear to write:
>>
>>
>> > agpgart loads as expected. I tried setting "NvAGP" "0" to see if>> > this helps but no it doesn't. Also, I tried not loading "glx" but

>> > this doesn't help either.
>> >
>> > I've attached portions of my /var/log/Xorg.0.log file.
>> >
>> > Thanks for the fast response.
>> >
>> > Anand
>> >
>>
>> Well that looks ok to me, I cannot think of anything else that I
did
>> to cure my crashes at the same time except update KDE, I had been
>> running the beta of 3.4 for a while and went to the full release.
>
> This is not a KDE issue. I get keyboard freezes in twm,
enlightenment,
> gnome and xfce.
>
>>
>
>> Ah, also I recompiled a 2.6.11 kernel ( used the source from one of

>> the "Kernel of The Days" ) to make it an Athlon 64bit specific with

>> pre-empt and took out the rivafb + some other non essential stuff.>>
>
>> I wonder if you might get any joy going over to the smp kernel even

>> though you only have 1 CPU, it could be down to some timings or
>> something.
>
> I'm running the smp kernel now, thanks for the suggestion, No joy
> since I see keyboard freezes here as well.
>
>

Does it happen in runlevel 3 at the terminal or is it only when X is
running?

Try dropping to a term with Ctrl+Alt+F1 and leaving your X session
open,
do some stuff on the terminal and see if you have problems there, if
you do then next time don`t start the X server and see if it happens
then, this would eliminate Xorg, that would only leave the underlyingkey handler or hardware probs such as a loose fitting keyboard PS2
plug/socket.

Unless you dual boot and the "other" OS works fine?


--
Mark
Novell Support Forums SysOp
Twixt hill and high water
N. Wales, UK.

> >
> >> I wonder if you might get any joy going over to the smp kernel
even
> >> though you only have 1 CPU, it could be down to some timings or
> >> something.
> >
> > I'm running the smp kernel now, thanks for the suggestion, No joy> > since I see keyboard freezes here as well.
> >
> >
>
> Does it happen in runlevel 3 at the terminal or is it only when X is

> running?

The underlying kernel is rock solid. Even after the keyboard freezes,
I can
always ssh in from some other machine and kill X. If I stay at
runlevel 3,
I never see any keyboard freezes. Also, X must be the culprit since it

rapidly starts using more of the CPU and eventually maxes out the CPU.


>
> Try dropping to a term with Ctrl+Alt+F1 and leaving your X session
open,
> do some stuff on the terminal and see if you have problems there, if

> you do then next time don`t start the X server and see if it happens

> then, this would eliminate Xorg, that would only leave the
underlying
> key handler or hardware probs such as a loose fitting keyboard PS2
> plug/socket.

I never see keyboard freezes in runlevel 3. The reported behavior only

happens in X.

>
> Unless you dual boot and the "other" OS works fine?

Unfortunately, yes, Windows XP runs fine on the same machine. My kid
who's
7 now thinks that linux is an unstable mess whereas XP is a
"professional"
OS which never crashes.

Anand

>
>
> --
> Mark
> Novell Support Forums SysOp
> Twixt hill and high water
> N. Wales, UK.
>

anandrajan@gmail.com adjusted his/her tin foil beanie and asbestos
underwear to write:

>
>> >
>> >> I wonder if you might get any joy going over to the smp kernel
>> >> even though you only have 1 CPU, it could be down to some
timings
>> >> or something.
>> >
>> > I'm running the smp kernel now, thanks for the suggestion, No joy

>> > since I see keyboard freezes here as well.
>> >
>> >
>>
>> Does it happen in runlevel 3 at the terminal or is it only when X
is
>> running?
>
> The underlying kernel is rock solid. Even after the keyboard
freezes,
> I can always ssh in from some other machine and kill X. If I stay at

> runlevel 3, I never see any keyboard freezes. Also, X must be the
> culprit since it rapidly starts using more of the CPU and eventually

> maxes out the CPU.
>
>>
>> Try dropping to a term with Ctrl+Alt+F1 and leaving your X session>> open, do some stuff on the terminal and see if you have problems
>> there, if you do then next time don`t start the X server and see if

>> it happens then, this would eliminate Xorg, that would only leave
the
>> underlying key handler or hardware probs such as a loose fitting
>> keyboard PS2 plug/socket.
>
> I never see keyboard freezes in runlevel 3. The reported behavior
only
> happens in X.
>
>>
>> Unless you dual boot and the "other" OS works fine?
>
> Unfortunately, yes, Windows XP runs fine on the same machine. My kid

> who's 7 now thinks that linux is an unstable mess whereas XP is a
> "professional" OS which never crashes.
>

Well I think it comes down to X then, you could always re-install theXorg packages to see if it might have missed one or one is corrupt.

Sort of getting to the "clutching at straws point here" :-)


--
Mark
Novell Support Forums SysOp
Twixt hill and high water
N. Wales, UK.

>
> >
> > Unfortunately, yes, Windows XP runs fine on the same machine. My
kid
> > who's 7 now thinks that linux is an unstable mess whereas XP is a> > "professional" OS which never crashes.
> >
>
> Well I think it comes down to X then, you could always re-install
the
> Xorg packages to see if it might have missed one or one is corrupt.>
> Sort of getting to the "clutching at straws point here" :-)

I removed the AGP nvidia videocard since I was getting tired of the
crashes. Back to the onboard ATI Rage 4MB card. Haven't had a freeze
so
far. It has been a few hours. Usually (and in KDE) I get a keyboard
freeze
in about 10 minutes.

After this experience, I'd say that the Tyan S2462 motherboard is
probably
the culprit.

Anand
>
>
> --
> Mark
> Novell Support Forums SysOp
> Twixt hill and high water
> N. Wales, UK.
>