firefox 2 and ative x

Has their been any progress in an active X pluggin for Firefox2? (It is
these IE only websites that irritate me.)

-MD

Mark wrote:

> Has their been any progress in an active X pluggin for Firefox2? (It is
> these IE only websites that irritate me.)
>
> -MD

One of Firefox's most attractive features and that of almost all the other
browsers is that it does NOT have ActiveX. That is what makes IE so
dangerous. If you absolutely need to have a red flag begging for malware
from every source on the Internet, why not just run IE?

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"why not just run IE?"

I use an opensuse 10.3 as my main e-mail system. I receive potential jobs
from contractors with links to their website associated with that
particular job. The problem is to use that link I first have to copy it to
a text editor, then save it to a USB drive, and use a old XP box to view
the link. It would be a lot simplier if these web sites were not Biggotted
about their browsers but the current marketplace reality is that Active X
is commonly used.

I have not successfully installed wine/IE on a linux box. I would prefer a
simple plugin that I could activate and deactivate as needed.

BTW Why don't spell checkers check the subject line?

-MD





Darrell Stec wrote:

> Mark wrote:
>
>> Has their been any progress in an active X pluggin for Firefox2? (It is
>> these IE only websites that irritate me.)
>>
>> -MD
>
> One of Firefox's most attractive features and that of almost all the other
> browsers is that it does NOT have ActiveX. That is what makes IE so
> dangerous. If you absolutely need to have a red flag begging for malware
> from every source on the Internet, why not just run IE?
>

On Tue, 27 Nov 2007 03:42:35 GMT
Mark <MSDelamater2@yahoo.com> wrote:

>
> "why not just run IE?"
>
> I use an opensuse 10.3 as my main e-mail system. I receive potential
> jobs from contractors with links to their website associated with that
> particular job. The problem is to use that link I first have to copy
> it to a text editor, then save it to a USB drive, and use a old XP
> box to view the link. It would be a lot simplier if these web sites
> were not Biggotted about their browsers but the current marketplace
> reality is that Active X is commonly used.
>
> I have not successfully installed wine/IE on a linux box. I would
> prefer a simple plugin that I could activate and deactivate as needed.
>
> BTW Why don't spell checkers check the subject line?
>
> -MD
>
>
>
>
>
> Darrell Stec wrote:
>
> > Mark wrote:
> >
> >> Has their been any progress in an active X pluggin for Firefox2?
> >> (It is these IE only websites that irritate me.)
> >>
> >> -MD
> >
> > One of Firefox's most attractive features and that of almost all
> > the other browsers is that it does NOT have ActiveX. That is what
> > makes IE so dangerous. If you absolutely need to have a red flag
> > begging for malware from every source on the Internet, why not just
> > run IE?
> >
>
Run a XP vmware machine or ie4linux?
http://www.tatanka.com.br/ies4linux/page/Main_Page

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Mark wrote:

>
> "why not just run IE?"
>
> I use an opensuse 10.3 as my main e-mail system. I receive potential jobs
> from contractors with links to their website associated with that
> particular job. The problem is to use that link I first have to copy it
> to a text editor, then save it to a USB drive, and use a old XP box to
> view
> the link.

I've never encountered a web link where I have to do that. I get about one
or two job offers a day for engineering or programming. Never saw a
Windows only site. Mostly banks have them.

To get around the bank problem, first make sure you have the right
encryption services checked under preferences. Next install the User Agent
Switcher plugin for Firefox. It will lie to the website and everything
should work. If the site insists on using ActiveX just write to the
webmaster and those offering the job and tell them they are using STUPID
and DANGEROUS programming practices. Personally I would never consider a
job like that as I cannot brook working with or for stupid people.

> It would be a lot simplier if these web sites were not
> Biggotted about their browsers but the current marketplace reality is that
> Active X is commonly used.
>

And that is why 23% to 27% of the market has moved to Firefox. ActiveX is
turned off on my computer when I MUST use MS Windows, and turned off in
every browser of every one of my customers. You are not going to the sites
to play games and those people who have those websites should be told so.
I guarantee you that if you went to those sites with Windows and IE and
shut off ActiveX they would work perfectly. I think you are confusing the
common JavaScript check for version level with the need to run ActiveX.
Just install the User Agent Switcher plugin, and I'll bet it solves almost
all your problems.

> I have not successfully installed wine/IE on a linux box.

Why? It isn't difficult. With OpenSuse (or just SLES/SLED) use YAST to
install the RPM. Wine has gotten much better recently and has solved a lot
of the problems associated with installing Windows programs. Then just
download IE4Linux which should be in the Suse repositories too. If you are
using OpenSuse 10.3 make sure you add more of the repositories. In that
version it is as easy as pie, you just check the box and YAST will take
care of the rest. IE4Linux will install IE 5.0, IE 5.5 and IE 6 plus put a
link to each of those on your desktop which will launch Wine then the
program without any effort on your part.

What kind of errors are you getting when you use YAST Software Manager to
install Wine? The latest Suse version has WineDoors which makes installing
programs and fonts a breeze. Winecfg will allow you to set up parameters
for each program so if it needs a certain version to run it, Wine uses
those libraries or like Windows Compatibility mode, lies to the program.

> I would prefer
> a simple plugin that I could activate and deactivate as needed.
>
> BTW Why don't spell checkers check the subject line?
>
> -MD
>
>
>
>
>
> Darrell Stec wrote:
>
>> Mark wrote:
>>
>>> Has their been any progress in an active X pluggin for Firefox2? (It is
>>> these IE only websites that irritate me.)
>>>
>>> -MD
>>
>> One of Firefox's most attractive features and that of almost all the
>> other
>> browsers is that it does NOT have ActiveX. That is what makes IE so
>> dangerous. If you absolutely need to have a red flag begging for malware
>> from every source on the Internet, why not just run IE?
>>

--
Later,
Darrell Stec darstec@neo.rr.com

Webpage Sorcery
http://webpagesorcery.com
We Put the Magic in Your Webpages

Malcolm,

I followed the link for IE4linux. I was able to install the IE6. I also
followed the cool solutions web link and tried installing IE7. I know it
is classified as beta but IE6 did not do a good job on text layout. After
trying to get the symbolic link for IE7 working properly I installed
IE4linux version 2.99.0. This version is much easier to install.

I installed it as su which means the launch script is located in /root/.
How can I modify the script so a normal user can launch IE.

-MD




Malcolm wrote:

> On Tue, 27 Nov 2007 03:42:35 GMT
> Mark <MSDelamater2@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>>
>> "why not just run IE?"
>>
>> I use an opensuse 10.3 as my main e-mail system. I receive potential
>> jobs from contractors with links to their website associated with that
>> particular job. The problem is to use that link I first have to copy
>> it to a text editor, then save it to a USB drive, and use a old XP
>> box to view the link. It would be a lot simplier if these web sites
>> were not Biggotted about their browsers but the current marketplace
>> reality is that Active X is commonly used.
>>
>> I have not successfully installed wine/IE on a linux box. I would
>> prefer a simple plugin that I could activate and deactivate as needed.
>>
>> BTW Why don't spell checkers check the subject line?
>>
>> -MD
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Darrell Stec wrote:
>>
>> > Mark wrote:
>> >
>> >> Has their been any progress in an active X pluggin for Firefox2?
>> >> (It is these IE only websites that irritate me.)
>> >>
>> >> -MD
>> >
>> > One of Firefox's most attractive features and that of almost all
>> > the other browsers is that it does NOT have ActiveX. That is what
>> > makes IE so dangerous. If you absolutely need to have a red flag
>> > begging for malware from every source on the Internet, why not just
>> > run IE?
>> >
>>
> Run a XP vmware machine or ie4linux?
> http://www.tatanka.com.br/ies4linux/page/Main_Page
>

Darrell,

I am not a programmer. I am dealing with a company that contract out
hardware support.

Their executives appear to have bought a MS based paperless office system.
They need to read your reply.

-MD




Darrell Stec wrote:

> Mark wrote:
>
>>
>> "why not just run IE?"
>>
>> I use an opensuse 10.3 as my main e-mail system. I receive potential
>> jobs from contractors with links to their website associated with that
>> particular job. The problem is to use that link I first have to copy it
>> to a text editor, then save it to a USB drive, and use a old XP box to
>> view
>> the link.
>
> I've never encountered a web link where I have to do that. I get about one
> or two job offers a day for engineering or programming. Never saw a
> Windows only site. Mostly banks have them.
>
> To get around the bank problem, first make sure you have the right
> encryption services checked under preferences. Next install the User
> Agent
> Switcher plugin for Firefox. It will lie to the website and everything
> should work. If the site insists on using ActiveX just write to the
> webmaster and those offering the job and tell them they are using STUPID
> and DANGEROUS programming practices. Personally I would never consider a
> job like that as I cannot brook working with or for stupid people.
>
>> It would be a lot simplier if these web sites were not
>> Biggotted about their browsers but the current marketplace reality is
>> that Active X is commonly used.
>>
>
> And that is why 23% to 27% of the market has moved to Firefox. ActiveX is
> turned off on my computer when I MUST use MS Windows, and turned off in
> every browser of every one of my customers. You are not going to the
> sites to play games and those people who have those websites should be
> told so. I guarantee you that if you went to those sites with Windows and
> IE and
> shut off ActiveX they would work perfectly. I think you are confusing the
> common JavaScript check for version level with the need to run ActiveX.
> Just install the User Agent Switcher plugin, and I'll bet it solves almost
> all your problems.
>
>> I have not successfully installed wine/IE on a linux box.
>
> Why? It isn't difficult. With OpenSuse (or just SLES/SLED) use YAST to
> install the RPM. Wine has gotten much better recently and has solved a
> lot
> of the problems associated with installing Windows programs. Then just
> download IE4Linux which should be in the Suse repositories too. If you
> are
> using OpenSuse 10.3 make sure you add more of the repositories. In that
> version it is as easy as pie, you just check the box and YAST will take
> care of the rest. IE4Linux will install IE 5.0, IE 5.5 and IE 6 plus put
> a link to each of those on your desktop which will launch Wine then the
> program without any effort on your part.
>
> What kind of errors are you getting when you use YAST Software Manager to
> install Wine? The latest Suse version has WineDoors which makes
> installing
> programs and fonts a breeze. Winecfg will allow you to set up parameters
> for each program so if it needs a certain version to run it, Wine uses
> those libraries or like Windows Compatibility mode, lies to the program.
>
>> I would prefer
>> a simple plugin that I could activate and deactivate as needed.
>>
>> BTW Why don't spell checkers check the subject line?
>>
>> -MD
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Darrell Stec wrote:
>>
>>> Mark wrote:
>>>
>>>> Has their been any progress in an active X pluggin for Firefox2? (It
>>>> is these IE only websites that irritate me.)
>>>>
>>>> -MD
>>>
>>> One of Firefox's most attractive features and that of almost all the
>>> other
>>> browsers is that it does NOT have ActiveX. That is what makes IE so
>>> dangerous. If you absolutely need to have a red flag begging for
>>> malware from every source on the Internet, why not just run IE?
>>>
>

Mark wrote:

> Malcolm,
>
> I followed the link for IE4linux. I was able to install the IE6. I also
> followed the cool solutions web link and tried installing IE7. I know it
> is classified as beta but IE6 did not do a good job on text layout.

One does not change the browser to suit the text layout. As far as I know
there is no difference as a rule between 6.0 & 7.0. If there is then the
webdesigner did a lousy job. In that case you tell both the webmaster and
the own of the website. You don't allow THEM to change your browser.


> After
> trying to get the symbolic link for IE7 working properly I installed
> IE4linux version 2.99.0.

What symbolic link? I've never needed a symbolic link for any Wine program.
Did you install the OpenSuse 10.3 Wine RPM and WineDoors? Begin by
deleting any Wine, WineDoors and WineTools via YAST then delete the hidden
files /home/username/.wine and /home/username/.winetools and the same
for .winedoors. Then use YAST and re-install again.

Make sure you use either WineDoors or WineTools (the former with the lastest
releases of Wine) to install all the fonts available to you. You can also
copy your fonts from your Windows installation to
your /home/username/.wine/drive_c/windows/font directory.

For most programs, WineDoors will install them.

> This version is much easier to install.
>
> I installed it as su which means the launch script is located in /root/.
> How can I modify the script so a normal user can launch IE.
>

Uninstall it and install it as regular user. Use root very sparingly and
only when Suse requires it.

> -MD
>
>
>
>
> Malcolm wrote:
>
>> On Tue, 27 Nov 2007 03:42:35 GMT
>> Mark <MSDelamater2@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> "why not just run IE?"
>>>
>>> I use an opensuse 10.3 as my main e-mail system. I receive potential
>>> jobs from contractors with links to their website associated with that
>>> particular job. The problem is to use that link I first have to copy
>>> it to a text editor, then save it to a USB drive, and use a old XP
>>> box to view the link. It would be a lot simplier if these web sites
>>> were not Biggotted about their browsers but the current marketplace
>>> reality is that Active X is commonly used.
>>>
>>> I have not successfully installed wine/IE on a linux box. I would
>>> prefer a simple plugin that I could activate and deactivate as needed.
>>>
>>> BTW Why don't spell checkers check the subject line?
>>>
>>> -MD
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Darrell Stec wrote:
>>>
>>> > Mark wrote:
>>> >
>>> >> Has their been any progress in an active X pluggin for Firefox2?
>>> >> (It is these IE only websites that irritate me.)
>>> >>
>>> >> -MD
>>> >
>>> > One of Firefox's most attractive features and that of almost all
>>> > the other browsers is that it does NOT have ActiveX. That is what
>>> > makes IE so dangerous. If you absolutely need to have a red flag
>>> > begging for malware from every source on the Internet, why not just
>>> > run IE?
>>> >
>>>
>> Run a XP vmware machine or ie4linux?
>> http://www.tatanka.com.br/ies4linux/page/Main_Page
>>

--
Later,
Darrell Stec darstec@neo.rr.com

Webpage Sorcery
http://webpagesorcery.com
We Put the Magic in Your Webpages

On Wed, 28 Nov 2007 00:39:59 GMT
Mark <MSDelamater2@yahoo.com> wrote:

> Malcolm,
>
> I followed the link for IE4linux. I was able to install the IE6. I
> also followed the cool solutions web link and tried installing IE7.
> I know it is classified as beta but IE6 did not do a good job on text
> layout. After trying to get the symbolic link for IE7 working
> properly I installed IE4linux version 2.99.0. This version is much
> easier to install.
>
> I installed it as su which means the launch script is located
> in /root/. How can I modify the script so a normal user can launch IE.
>
> -MD
>
>
>
>
> Malcolm wrote:
>
> > On Tue, 27 Nov 2007 03:42:35 GMT
> > Mark <MSDelamater2@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >
> >>
> >> "why not just run IE?"
> >>
> >> I use an opensuse 10.3 as my main e-mail system. I receive
> >> potential jobs from contractors with links to their website
> >> associated with that particular job. The problem is to use that
> >> link I first have to copy it to a text editor, then save it to a
> >> USB drive, and use a old XP box to view the link. It would be a
> >> lot simplier if these web sites were not Biggotted about their
> >> browsers but the current marketplace reality is that Active X is
> >> commonly used.
> >>
> >> I have not successfully installed wine/IE on a linux box. I would
> >> prefer a simple plugin that I could activate and deactivate as
> >> needed.
> >>
> >> BTW Why don't spell checkers check the subject line?
> >>
> >> -MD
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Darrell Stec wrote:
> >>
> >> > Mark wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> Has their been any progress in an active X pluggin for Firefox2?
> >> >> (It is these IE only websites that irritate me.)
> >> >>
> >> >> -MD
> >> >
> >> > One of Firefox's most attractive features and that of almost all
> >> > the other browsers is that it does NOT have ActiveX. That is
> >> > what makes IE so dangerous. If you absolutely need to have a
> >> > red flag begging for malware from every source on the Internet,
> >> > why not just run IE?
> >> >
> >>
> > Run a XP vmware machine or ie4linux?
> > http://www.tatanka.com.br/ies4linux/page/Main_Page
> >
>
Hi
If you are the only user it installs in your user .ies4linux directory
and creates softlinks in your user bin directory. I would just run the
following as your user;
wget
http://www.tatanka.com.br/ies4linux/...-latest.tar.gz
tar zxvf ies4linux-latest.tar.gz
cd ies4linux-*
../ies4linux

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Mark wrote:

> opensuse.org.suse-linux.support.general-applications
> Darrell,
>
> I am not a programmer. Â*I am dealing with a company that contract out
> hardware support.
>
> Their executives appear to have bought a MS based paperless office system.
> They need to read your reply.
>
> -MD

I'll bet it is a company that I turned down in the past. If you are into
hardware support, troubleshooting computer problems etc. The real money is
in the home and home office not corporate. A year ago March I started a
new company fixing computer problems in people's homes. I now get in
excess of 35 calls a day. I could really use GOOD help but cannot convince
anyone that they can make really good money charging $40 a visit (I
advertise $50 a visit no matter how long I am in their home or office, so I
would keep $10 for over head). Compared that my competitors are charging
$70 -- $90 an hour I do get calls. My closing rate is 100% and returning
customers is very high. The cookies, cakes, dinners and coffee are pluses.
Here in Northeast Ohio there are tons of elderly who love home service and
with communications problems or virus (95% of all calls) problems, in-home
service is better than taking their computer anywhere.

Of course the downside is that gas prices really eat into the overhead.

I also have another company that deals with corporate customers, most of
whom are on the Fortune 500 list. It is nowhere near as lucrative even
charging $200/hr. They do not have the budgets they use to have and are
more difficult to deal with. Besides I hate dealing with committees.

--
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Darrell Stec darstec@neo.rr.com

Webpage Sorcery
http://webpagesorcery.com
We Put the Magic in Your Webpages