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Old 30-Dec-2006, 17:39
mrivner@mail.mcg.edu
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Default Problems with sound card and Yast in version 10.2

Since I installed a new graphics card and ran Yast update, I have been
having problems with my Suse system. Most of the problems were corrected
since I installed version 10.2 from 10.0, however two problems remain.

1) My sound card will not work when I am logged in as a regular user but
will work properly when logged in as the root user. I see nothing to
change. I do not beleive this is a hardware problem since everything works
for the root user but not for regular users.

2) I cannot run Yast from a regular user account. Yast will ask for the
root password and when I enter it nothing will happen. In the past, once
the correct password was entered Yast would run. I do not get an error
message, yast just will not run. If I entered the wrong password, I will
get an error message. yast will run for the root user.

I would really like to fix these problems as it would be nice to have
sound. Also it is much easier to run Yast without having to switch users.

Regards and thanks,
Michael
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Old 30-Dec-2006, 20:45
Rajko M
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Default Re: Problems with sound card and Yast in version 10.2

mrivner@mail.mcg.edu wrote:

> 2) I cannot run Yast from a regular user account. Â*Yast will ask for the
> root password and when I enter it nothing will happen. Â*In the past, once
> the correct password was entered Yast would run. Â*I do not get an error
> message, yast just will not run. Â*If I entered the wrong password, I will
> get an error message. Â*yast will run for the root user.


Can you try few other way to start yast.
First: open root console and run
yast2
to see is it possible to start it this way.

Second: Main Menu -- Run Command
type yast2
press "Options>>" button
check Run as a different user
give Username:root
give Password:
press Run button

Does this make any difference.

We'll see for a network card later.

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Old 31-Dec-2006, 06:36
Uwe Buckesfeld
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Default Re: Problems with sound card and Yast in version 10.2

* mrivner@mail.mcg.edu wrote, On 12/31/2006 12:39 AM:

> 1) My sound card will not work when I am logged in as a regular user but
> will work properly when logged in as the root user. I see nothing to
> change. I do not beleive this is a hardware problem since everything works
> for the root user but not for regular users.


Try adding your user to the "audio" group in Yast.

Uwe

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Old 31-Dec-2006, 16:15
mrivner@mail.mcg.edu
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Default Re: Problems with sound card and Yast in version 10.2

> mrivner@mail.mcg.edu wrote:
>
> > 2) I cannot run Yast from a regular user account. Â Yast will ask for the
> > root password and when I enter it nothing will happen. Â In the past, once
> > the correct password was entered Yast would run. Â I do not get an error
> > message, yast just will not run. Â If I entered the wrong password, I will
> > get an error message. Â yast will run for the root user.

>
> Can you try few other way to start yast.
> First: open root console and run
> yast2
> to see is it possible to start it this way.
>
> Second: Main Menu -- Run Command
> type yast2
> press "Options>>" button
> check Run as a different user
> give Username:root
> give Password:
> press Run button
>
> Does this make any difference.
>
> We'll see for a network card later.
>
> --
> Regards, Rajko.
> http://en.opensuse.org/Portal


Thanks for responding. As I had mentioned if I change to the root user I
can run Yast. Indeed, I believe that my sound card issues and the yast
issue for a normal user are probably the same problem and is a user rights
issue.

Michael
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Old 31-Dec-2006, 16:52
mrivner@mail.mcg.edu
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Default Re: Problems with sound card and Yast in version 10.2

> * mrivner@mail.mcg.edu wrote, On 12/31/2006 12:39 AM:
>
> > 1) My sound card will not work when I am logged in as a regular user but
> > will work properly when logged in as the root user. I see nothing to
> > change. I do not beleive this is a hardware problem since everything works
> > for the root user but not for regular users.

>
> Try adding your user to the "audio" group in Yast.
>
> Uwe
>
> --
> Novell Support Connection Volunteer SysOp
> Please don't send me support related e-mail unless I ask you to do so.


Thank you for your help. Adding the user to the group audio did indeed
solve 95% of the problem. My speaker icon is no longer xed out, most of
the system sounds seem to work but some of the clicking that I enabled do
not work the same way that they do for the root user. I could live with
that however. Thank you.
Michael
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Old 01-Jan-2007, 03:41
Rajko M
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Default Re: Problems with sound card and Yast in version 10.2

mrivner@mail.mcg.edu wrote:

>> We'll see for a network card later.

It was sound card :-)

....
>
> Thanks for responding. Â*As I had mentioned if I change to the root user I
> can run Yast. Â*Indeed, I believe that my sound card issues and the yast
> issue for a normal user are probably the same problem and is a user rights
> issue.


It can be.
One of the easiest ways to check is to create new user account, login as
that user and try to start YaST. If it works than the source is somewhere
in your home directory and
chown -R your_user_name:users /home/your_user_name
will probably cure the problem.

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Old 01-Jan-2007, 23:55
mrivner@mail.mcg.edu
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Default Re: Problems with sound card and Yast in version 10.2


> It can be.
> One of the easiest ways to check is to create new user account, login as
> that user and try to start YaST. If it works than the source is somewhere
> in your home directory and
> chown -R your_user_name:users /home/your_user_name
> will probably cure the problem.
>
> --
> Regards, Rajko.
> http://en.opensuse.org/Portal


I created a new user and that user could run yast. I entered the chown
command but this did not fix the problem. I then did further testing. It
seems that this problem depends on how many users are logged in. I noticed
several things

1) if I go to the terminal program and enter the su command, I could run
yast2 from the command line.

2) Sound will now work on the initial user but not on other users. The
initial regular user cannot run yast but a second regular user logged in
concurrently can. So if I login as user1--user1 will have sound but cannot
run yast. If I then login a second user--user2 this user will not have
sound but can run yast. If I then log both users out--and then log user2
in--user2 will not be able to run yast but will have sound. If I then log
in user1, that user will not have sound but can run yast.

3) Root will not have sound but can run yast. I cannot login as root
unless another user is already logged in.

I am running suse 10.2 with gnome.

Thanks.
Michael

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Old 02-Jan-2007, 11:47
Rajko M
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Default Re: Problems with sound card and Yast in version 10.2

mrivner@mail.mcg.edu wrote:

>
>> It can be.
>> One of the easiest ways to check is to create new user account, login as
>> that user and try to start YaST. If it works than the source is somewhere
>> in your home directory and
>> chown -R your_user_name:users /home/your_user_name
>> will probably cure the problem.

.....
> I created a new user and that user could run yast. I entered the chown
> command but this did not fix the problem.


This was fix for ownership problems, and that is only a half of the problem.
The chmod command can't be used in that way as different files have
different permissions, and that is another half of the access permissions
problem.

> I then did further testing. It
> seems that this problem depends on how many users are logged in. I
> noticed several things
>
> 1) if I go to the terminal program and enter the su command, I could run
> yast2 from the command line.
>
> 2) Sound will now work on the initial user but not on other users. The
> initial regular user cannot run yast but a second regular user logged in
> concurrently can. So if I login as user1--user1 will have sound but
> cannot run yast.
> If I then login a second user--user2 this user will not have
> sound but can run yast. If I then log both users out--and then log user2
> in--user2 will not be able to run yast but will have sound. If I then log
> in user1, that user will not have sound but can run yast.


How do you log users in. Using graphic login for both, or first one is
graphic, and the other via console and su?

> 3) Root will not have sound but can run yast. I cannot login as root
> unless another user is already logged in.


If first login is graphic, on start up, than inability to login as root is
OK. It is designed that way to prevent myriad of problems. No experience
user will ever login is GUI as root. Stability of Linux is not magic, it is
just safe practices, enforced by operating system.

> I am running suse 10.2 with gnome.


I'm not using it, but login logic is the same in GNOME as it is in KDE,
because both use same operating system services.

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