Re: Issue with file management within Konqueror...

Rialb Selur adjusted his/her tinfoil beanie to post:

> I'm running Suse 9.3, and have a weird issue with deleting files
> within
> Konqueror. I created a directory under /, called installs. I login as
> root(I know..), so the the owner is root and the group is root, both
> of
> which have view & modify rights. When I go into that directory and
> try to delete a folder in the Icon View, it tells me that "Creating
> folders is not supported with protocol trash." If I switch to Tree
> view, highlight the directory and hit delete key, it does nothing. The
> only way, it seems that I can delete anything out of the folder, is to
> move
> the folder to my desktop, highlight it and hit the delete key.
> Doesn't moving imply deleting from original location? If so, it seems
> the rights
> are in place. Anyone else have such an issue?
>
> P.S. in a console, if I do a "rm -r <directory>", the directory gets
> deleted.
>
> Thanks,
> Rialb


Have you ever thought that this "feature" might be a "good thing"®

You should never ever run a GUI as root, it only takes one bug in the DM
or WM over which you have no control and you have lost your system,
maybe this is reminding you that you are root.

And yes it is possible, BTDTGTTS.


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baskitcaise wrote:

> You should never ever run a GUI as root, it only takes one bug in the DM
> or WM

What is DM or WM, Mark?

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baskitcaise wrote:
> Rialb Selur adjusted his/her tinfoil beanie to post:
>
>> I'm running Suse 9.3, and have a weird issue with deleting files
>> within
>> Konqueror. I created a directory under /, called installs. I login as
>> root(I know..), so the the owner is root and the group is root, both
>> of
>> which have view & modify rights. When I go into that directory and
>> try to delete a folder in the Icon View, it tells me that "Creating
>> folders is not supported with protocol trash." If I switch to Tree
>> view, highlight the directory and hit delete key, it does nothing. The
>> only way, it seems that I can delete anything out of the folder, is to
>> move
>> the folder to my desktop, highlight it and hit the delete key.
>> Doesn't moving imply deleting from original location? If so, it seems
>> the rights
>> are in place. Anyone else have such an issue?
>>
>> P.S. in a console, if I do a "rm -r <directory>", the directory gets
>> deleted.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Rialb
>
>
> Have you ever thought that this "feature" might be a "good thing"®
>
> You should never ever run a GUI as root, it only takes one bug in the DM
> or WM over which you have no control and you have lost your system,
> maybe this is reminding you that you are root.
>
> And yes it is possible, BTDTGTTS.
>
>

I can't see that this is a "feature". I would think that deleting
something out of a folder that was creted by the user that wants to do
the deleting (root or not), would be no problem. Perhaps, there's a bug
here.

Shriramana Sharma adjusted his/her tinfoil beanie to post:

> baskitcaise wrote:
>
>> You should never ever run a GUI as root, it only takes one bug in the
>> DM or WM
>
> What is DM or WM, Mark?
>

Desktop Manger and Window Manager, do a google on the linux side and you
will find the difference between the two.


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Mark
Twixt hill and high water
N. Wales, UK
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Rialb Selur adjusted his/her tinfoil beanie to post:

> I can't see that this is a "feature". I would think that deleting
> something out of a folder that was creted by the user that wants to do
> the deleting (root or not), would be no problem. Perhaps, there's a
> bug here.

Ok joking aside, after thinking about it can you try and launch ( as a
user ) the Filemanager Super User Mode ( normally in System>File
Manager menu )

See if that operates differently?


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Mark
Twixt hill and high water
N. Wales, UK
Novell Support Forums SysOp

baskitcaise wrote:
> Rialb Selur adjusted his/her tinfoil beanie to post:
>
>> I can't see that this is a "feature". I would think that deleting
>> something out of a folder that was creted by the user that wants to do
>> the deleting (root or not), would be no problem. Perhaps, there's a
>> bug here.
>
> Ok joking aside, after thinking about it can you try and launch ( as a
> user ) the Filemanager Super User Mode ( normally in System>File
> Manager menu )
>
> See if that operates differently?
>
>
That worked, no problem.

Blair Haithcock adjusted his/her tinfoil beanie to post:

> baskitcaise wrote:
>> Rialb Selur adjusted his/her tinfoil beanie to post:
>>
>>> I can't see that this is a "feature". I would think that deleting
>>> something out of a folder that was creted by the user that wants to
>>> do
>>> the deleting (root or not), would be no problem. Perhaps, there's a
>>> bug here.
>>
>> Ok joking aside, after thinking about it can you try and launch ( as
>> a user ) the Filemanager Super User Mode ( normally in System>File
>> Manager menu )
>>
>> See if that operates differently?
>>
>>
> That worked, no problem.

In that case it does look like it is a permissions problem when running
konqueror as root when root, if you see what I mean.

Not sure how to get it to act as expected though, is it a KDE problem or
a system problem ( rhetorical )

I will have a look see if I can find out anything.


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Mark
Twixt hill and high water
N. Wales, UK
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